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justin_o_guy2
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is it just too weird to talk about?
06/18/15 at 05:48:53
 
A woman, passing herself as black.

Why did no one say anything?

And I've heard some talking heads have said

If she wants to be black, okay, let her... It's okay.


Well, im 5'6"", white, wimpy,
I wanna be the big dude who did the GreeenMile..

Aaaand if I cant do all that, ill settle for the money.
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Reply #1 - 06/18/15 at 08:41:18
 
Next time I have to fill out a form that ask for race/gender etc... I think I'll self-identify as 5 or 6 of the choice just to see what happens.

I'll be  a transgender, non-identifying she-male of Asian origins with non-specific disabilities that qualifies me for airport pre-boarding and low interest small business loans.
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Reply #2 - 06/18/15 at 09:06:03
 
Hey, if thats how ya FEEL,get after it..
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Reply #3 - 06/18/15 at 09:06:42
 
They say that 1 in 5 "white" Americans have black blood in their ancestry and don't know it...
If you have family origins in any of the slave states, the likelihood would be much greater...  
Probably 3 in 5...
So,... we all got a little soul in us...

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Reply #4 - 06/18/15 at 09:09:30
 
Muppets arent known for their
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Reply #5 - 06/18/15 at 11:26:03
 
Which of course means the reverse is true. Three out of five blacks have white blood, which means they can -_________________. Fill in the blank!
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Reply #6 - 06/18/15 at 12:10:01
 
WebsterMark wrote on 06/18/15 at 11:26:03:
Which of course means the reverse is true. Three out of five blacks have white blood....

......................................................................

It doesn't necessarily work like that.
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Reply #7 - 06/18/15 at 12:16:40
 
You're a poor fisherman Hovis.
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Reply #8 - 06/18/15 at 12:54:56
 
Statistically, and genetically;

Chromosomes....
XX female, XY male, YY Delilah

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Reply #9 - 06/18/15 at 18:32:21
 
Serowbot wrote on 06/18/15 at 09:06:42:
They say that 1 in 5 "white" Americans have black blood in their ancestry and don't know it...
If you have family origins in any of the slave states, the likelihood would be much greater...


I can trace my ancestry back to Ireland to around the late 1500's. I'm part Irish, English, German, French and possibly Cherokee. I'm sure Ms. Whatsherface has a similar ancestry. Just because she prefers an afrocentric lifestyle doesn't make her "black". No one saw a problem with this until recently?  Shocked

Using the court system as an example, when a case is won it sets a precedent. Other cases are won because of these precedents. If she's black can I sign up for Affirmative Action and be guaranteed a job before someone else regardless of qualifications? I see lawsuits in the future. You know some idiot will try it!
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Reply #10 - 06/19/15 at 05:17:32
 
WebsterMark wrote on 06/18/15 at 12:16:40:
You're a poor fisherman Hovis.


Hey ! I thought   I  had a legitimate right to that !!!

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Reply #11 - 06/19/15 at 05:18:28
 
WebsterMark wrote on 06/18/15 at 11:26:03:
Which of course means the reverse is true. Three out of five blacks have white blood, which means they can -_________________. Fill in the blank!


Given my 5 years in Virginia State Schools, may I call myself an eyewitness to this being a proven fact ?
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Reply #12 - 06/21/15 at 16:04:04
 
Dnews Youtube channel had an episode, stating that "race" is not a scientific existing reality. (Though they murmurered softly that ethnicity is).  Their take is that "race" is a social construct.  They then compared the whole then to "breeds" of dogs.  There is no such thing as a "purebred" dog. In the end they are all just dogs. Breeds are simply dogs that have been breed from other breeds such that you can maintain a set characteristics within some constraint of bloodlines.

For me in the end, I could see their point, but it was still insulting. Humans have "bred" into bloodlines that carry some set of traits. That does not mean that the tendency for social groups to label them is any less "real".

That groups then attach generalities to whole swaths of other humans based race, is, in my book wrong. The same could be said of gender.  It is a scientific FACT that all humans have as mammalian trait the need to categorize.. just about everything we meet in our existence. It generally rather serves us well and is one of the traits that separates us from all other forms of life on the planet.  That this trait would be used by small minded or narrow minded individuals to either exclude a competitor or lift their meager self esteem is a given.

it is up to each of us to decide to buy into it (racism), and or question how much we let such notions effect our relations with other humans.  As to me personally, being old and a father, I do wonder if I allowed gender bias affect my relationships with my son (age 17) and my daughter (age 23), or even with my own wife. Although I am a white man in the deep south, I feel on the whole my relations with other "races/ethnicity) reflects well on my life. Do I still generalize every so often? sure, I find most often I do so when there is a distinct lack of information. And as information comes in (meaning I meet others of some otherwise new to me race), I am much better checking those gut feelings to generalize. I think you would be extremely hard pressed to find anyone that knows me to characterize me as racist. Though I have met people I did not know ( from California) that ASSUMED I must racist. (She, a black woman asked if it was ok for us to be seated at the same table at a conference while in Salt Lake City Utah). ( of course also wanted to know if we had indoor plumbing, I didn't much like her)

As to self-identifying... that seems to be all the rage for gender and seems to be back-filling into race/ethnicity. What-ever. I guess I really don't care to argue about how one "self identifies". Some one can "S I" as an "fluid elf" for all I care... But doing so I reserve the RIGHT to revert to not having enough information and therefore to categorize all those that use that label until I have experience to remove my generalizations.  

IE ... anyone self- identifiing as elf = MORON until I information that proves my gut categorization invalid. And thats my right.  Wink
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Reply #13 - 06/21/15 at 17:33:47
 
Let’s see:
I carry a Flag, and March,
and the Flag says:
‘Gay/Black/Asian/Somalian/Islam/Indian/etc.”   ‘Pride’.
that is perfectly OK, and on the news at 5,6 &10,
as,  ‘Wonderful”.

Yet, I carry a sign saying:  
'White Pride”
And am called,  (something else).

Why  ?????


Perhaps, 'some people',
are MORE, Equal. that others.

Gee, I can't say, 'What I Think",
But, 'others' can ?

What is that statement?
 'Home of the FREE, and land of the Brave' ?



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Reply #14 - 06/22/15 at 08:15:54
 
MnSpring wrote on 06/21/15 at 17:33:47:
Let’s see:
I carry a Flag, and March,
and the Flag says:
‘Gay/Black/Asian/Somalian/Islam/Indian/etc.”   ‘Pride’.
that is perfectly OK, and on the news at 5,6 &10,
as,  ‘Wonderful”.

Yet, I carry a sign saying:  
'White Pride”
And am called,  (something else).

Why  ?????


Perhaps, 'some people',
are MORE, Equal. that others.

Gee, I can't say, 'What I Think",
But, 'others' can ?

What is that statement?
 'Home of the FREE, and land of the Brave' ?





Land of the free (ride) and home of depraved (indifference)...
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