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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: No power at all Reply #45 - 06/07/15 at 14:43:50 I gotta say, I don't remember anyone walking in the door and be so ready to listen. And not leave us waiting and wondering what is going on. I'm gonna step back and think about it. Gentlemen, I hope you will do what you can to help.
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Reply #46 - 06/07/15 at 14:53:55

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 06/07/15 at 14:43:50:

I gotta say, I don't remember anyone walking in the door and be so ready to listen. And not leave us waiting and wondering what is going on.
I'm gonna step back and think about it. Gentlemen, I hope you will do what you can to help.

I really appreciate everything you've done so far and thank you for being a champion for my cause.

I forgot to mention that the key is in the on position when I get a reading of.33 volts on the black wire with white stripe and the negative battery terminal. If they key is off I don't get that reading. Thinking about that I don't think this is the problem since my drain is happening with key off.

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chzeckmate Serious Thumper Offline Be the person your dog thinks you are Posts: 514 Houston, Texas Gender:	Re: No power at all Reply #47 - 06/07/15 at 16:05:52 More info. When I disconnect this black connector there appears to be no drain on the battery when the key is in the off position. The R/R seems to be heating up a little while the black connector is connected. Does this give any insight as to what I'm dealing with?
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Steve H Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1223 Spartanburg, SC Gender:	Re: No power at all Reply #48 - 06/07/15 at 16:33:46 Now that I see the rest of the connections, it's the rectifier trigger and charge connector (white one). The one with yellow wires going into it is from the stator. The R/R should not heat up at all when the switch is off. If it's pulling power just sitting there, it's probably bad.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: No power at all Reply #49 - 06/07/15 at 16:40:16 That should be normal. That's the reverse voltage of any diode
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: No power at all Reply #50 - 06/07/15 at 16:44:00 Well, there are guys who know how the charge circuit works, I don't. I'm gonna step back and read,if I can contribute, I will.
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Steve H Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1223 Spartanburg, SC Gender:	Re: No power at all Reply #51 - 06/07/15 at 16:51:08 I'm a little out of my depth too when it comes to the R/R. Here's an article on voltage regulators and how they function with troubleshooting info http://racetechelectric.com/ft-751-voltage-regulators.html
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: No power at all Reply #52 - 06/07/15 at 17:00:14 My answer was regarding the red question
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Re: No power at all
Reply #53 - 06/07/15 at 17:11:29

Steve H wrote on 06/07/15 at 16:33:46:

Now that I see the rest of the connections, it's the rectifier trigger and charge connector (white one). The one with yellow wires going into it is from the stator.

The R/R should not heat up at all when the switch is off. If it's pulling power just sitting there, it's probably bad.

I agree, if the regulator/rectifier is getting warm/hot when the key is in the off position I think there lies your short.

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While running you should have above 13v reading on the battery.... so the regulator is not "regulating".

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Re: No power at all
Reply #54 - 06/07/15 at 18:53:50

verslagen1 wrote on 06/07/15 at 16:40:16:

That should be normal. That's the reverse voltage of any diode

Just to be clear I had the probes on the multimeter going from the negative battery terminal and the ground wire on the connector. I would naturally think that there wouldn't be any voltage reading from ground to ground.

old_rider wrote on 06/07/15 at 17:11:29:

Steve H wrote on 06/07/15 at 16:33:46:

Now that I see the rest of the connections, it's the rectifier trigger and charge connector (white one). The one with yellow wires going into it is from the stator.

The R/R should not heat up at all when the switch is off. If it's pulling power just sitting there, it's probably bad.

I agree, if the regulator/rectifier is getting warm/hot when the key is in the off position I think there lies your short.

Cheap on ebay.....http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/261712246507?lpid=82&chn=ps

While running you should have above 13v reading on the battery.... so the regulator is not "regulating".

I couldn't be certain that it was heating up. It was a hundred degrees here today and could've been the sun heating it. I'm going try to verify that now.

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Reply #55 - 06/07/15 at 19:06:15

Okay, well I went to verify that the R/R was heating up and not just the effects of the sun but when I reconnected the black connector the top fuse went pop. I didn't put put another fuse in it because I suspect I'll just blow that one too. I removed the R/R and have it in hand now. Is there a way to test it to confirm this thing is the culprit?

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Steve H Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1223 Spartanburg, SC Gender:	Re: No power at all Reply #56 - 06/07/15 at 19:11:52 Testing instructions in the link I posted
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: No power at all Reply #57 - 06/07/15 at 19:21:02 Good call not poking another fuse in. I don't remember if it was blown earlier.
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chzeckmate Serious Thumper Offline Be the person your dog thinks you are Posts: 514 Houston, Texas Gender:	Re: No power at all Reply #58 - 06/07/15 at 19:24:11 Steve H wrote on 06/07/15 at 19:11:52: Testing instructions in the link I posted Right, I forgot about that. Thanks a ton! Just one thing there aren't any yellow wires. This is what I'm looking at.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: No power at all Reply #59 - 06/07/15 at 19:39:42 I've never looked under one before, but the epoxy iscracked, been getting hot? Normal condition?
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