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Re: We are all on a classified FBI gang list
Reply #15 - 06/05/15 at 17:33:58
 
Gee, it just seems unreasonable for them to create such a list...and only foolish and gullible people would ever accept that something that seems so unreasonable would ever be done until solid evidence were presented.
What's truly sad is that so many unreasonable things have become daily events that to see a new one is just not a shock.
So, start a strawman  ,silly rumor, then knock it down and now, believe the government loves you or you're silly.
Disregard the news stories of children who have a name that is on the no fly list.

Snopes? What wizzard declared That the be all end all?
The TSA Blog: Individuals on The No Fly List Are Not ...
blog.tsa.gov/2012/05/individuals-on-no-fly-list-are-not.html
The No Fly List is a list of individuals who are prohibited from boarding an aircraft. Another list – the "Selectee" list - is a list of individuals who must ...
Report: Toddler appears on "no fly" list, booted - CBS News
www.cbsnews.com/news/report-toddler-appears-on-no-fly-list-booted
An 18-month-old's name reportedly showed up on a no-fly list, and her and her parents were booted from a flight
Muslim Baby Ordered Off Plane For Being On No Fly List
www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/10/baby-ordered-off-plane-for-being...
May 10, 2012 · An 18-month-old girl and her parents were pulled off a JetBlue flight Tuesday because the child was on the no-fly list, reports WPBF 25 West Palm Beach.
No Fly List - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Fly_List
The No Fly List is a list, created and maintained by the United States government's Terrorist Screening Center (TSC), of people who are not permitted to board a ...
History · Failures · Controversy · False positives · No fly lists in ...
[VIDEO]No-fly 'glitch' has toddler removed from plane - …
www.cnn.com/2012/05/10/travel/no-fly-toddler/index.html
May 11, 2012 · JetBlue Airways is apologizing for a "computer glitch" it blames for a family being told their 18-month-old daughter was on a government no-fly list.


Just one example of Reason by our
To be trusted
few.

You get on that list without knowing and without recourse.
So, look down on me if you will when I hold accusations against them up first and believe them till proven wrong.
AFAIC, Snopes doesn't cut it. As unreasonable as such a list would be, I wouldn't put it past them.
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Re: We are all on a classified FBI gang list
Reply #16 - 06/05/15 at 17:42:37
 
JOG, have you flown in the past year or two???..   Undecided

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Reply #17 - 06/05/15 at 17:46:22
 
I won't walk into the airport...
I doubt that I'd be able to fly anyway.
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Reply #18 - 06/05/15 at 17:56:12
 
On a more serious note, I'm guessing that every bit of obtainable information about us is cataloged, chronicled, and a profile is generated for each of us.  With today's technology it would not be a difficult task.  Hence, we are all on a list.....  

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Reply #19 - 06/05/15 at 17:58:45
 
The last 10 years or so,.. I've had yearly background checks to access Military bases as a civilian...
If I were on a gang, terror, or watch list, I doubt I would have been allowed...
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Reply #20 - 06/05/15 at 18:07:07
 
So, are you saying that the government is treating the people reasonably and to think that they aren't is silly? You have Reason to believe such a list didn't exist, but chose not to mention it. I'm not going where you go, I don't get on bases, and besides, you're a great supporter . Bike or not, they are gonna be friends with you. You believe them.
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Reply #21 - 06/05/15 at 18:22:35
 
Right,... I'm a shill for the establishment... Grin Grin Grin ...
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Reply #22 - 06/05/15 at 19:09:32
 
You have Reason to believe such a list didn't exist, but chose not to mention it.

I don't. I explained why.
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Reply #23 - 06/06/15 at 00:22:09
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 06/05/15 at 18:07:07:
So, are you saying that the government is treating the people reasonably and to think that they aren't is silly?  

Not saying that at all....
I think the "Patriot Act" goes too far...
I'm just saying,... that owning a motorcycle doesn't put you on any watch list...
Having rockers might,... but not just riding a bike...

The assertion of the article is false...
Trumped up charges to stir the political pot...

That wouldn't be inconceivable... would it?...
Both sides do it,... but the Rep's do it more often and more convincingly...
They have a more captive audience...



PS... I do believe Snopes...  
I've never seen them proven wrong,.. and they have a reputation to protect...
If they are ever proven wrong... proven...   and they don't correct it immediately....   Their credibility is done...
So,.. I at least believe their agenda is to be accurate...




I may have pushed this into TT material...
Anyone,.. feel free to tell me to relocate it...
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Reply #24 - 06/06/15 at 04:19:14
 
'Brazil' by Terry Gilliam....

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088846/
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Reply #25 - 06/06/15 at 07:12:35
 
Serowbot wrote on 06/06/15 at 00:22:09:
PS... I do believe Snopes...  
I've never seen them proven wrong,.. and they have a reputation to protect...
If they are ever proven wrong... proven...   and they don't correct it immediately....   Their credibility is done...
So,.. I at least believe their agenda is to be accurate...

A few years ago there was an issue with snopes... I believe they were not reporting something (right/left leaning?), but there are enough competing sites now that there's no need to go to snopes and search, just google it.
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Reply #26 - 06/06/15 at 08:21:30
 
Yup,..   I Googled it,.. and Snopes came up... also, a site called "Truth or Fiction"...
Both agree...
National Report is not a news source... it's a rumor mill...
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Re: We are all on a classified FBI gang list
Reply #27 - 06/06/15 at 08:47:43
 
Serowbot wrote on 06/06/15 at 00:22:09:
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 06/05/15 at 18:07:07:
So, are you saying that the government is treating the people reasonably and to think that they aren't is silly?  

Not saying that at all....
I think the "Patriot Act" goes too far...
I'm just saying,... that owning a motorcycle doesn't put you on any watch list...
Having rockers might,... but not just riding a bike...

The assertion of the article is false...
Trumped up charges to stir the political pot...

That wouldn't be inconceivable... would it?...
Both sides do it,... but the Rep's do it more often and more convincingly...
They have a more captive audience...



PS... I do believe Snopes...  
I've never seen them proven wrong,.. and they have a reputation to protect...
If they are ever proven wrong... proven...   and they don't correct it immediately....   Their credibility is done...
So,.. I at least believe their agenda is to be accurate...




I may have pushed this into TT material...
Anyone,.. feel free to tell me to relocate it...
Wink...




I think, given the charged nature of the topic, its all being handled well.
Good reply, but this may give more traffic to the TT.
I wonder if people avoid it, thinking its just a bunch of screaming..
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Reply #28 - 06/07/15 at 09:09:58
 
Since this has become a political thread, shouldn't it be in that Tall Tables forum?
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Reply #29 - 06/07/15 at 09:43:29
 
Personally I think that a list of over 8.5 million folks would be a little hard to keep track of.... and like some of the above folks, I have been backround checked soooo many times in my DOD career i'm thinking I would be excluded, if they could find my name on the list and the right address or current one.
I have to actually give the government my address all the time to make sure I receive my retirement and healthcare, and so far they haven't come to pick me up, or charge me with any citations involving motor cycle gang membership.
Should we be talking about our get-together at the blue ridge? better tell MMR not to wear that vest.  Smiley
Its a frikin' shame that there are any lists at all, but I suppose to weed out the bad apples you have to take the whole basket in hand to find them. I don't mind being handled, so long as they put me back in the basket ! Grin
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