Quote Serow;
"Period..."
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Or not  

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Quote MP;
"In conclusion, a lopsided affair... created to give the uninformed reader a wrong perspective."

And therefore maybe to create fear, to then create war, to then trade arms, to then control oil.......

#1: I would like to like to thank Mpescatori for his informative comments.

#2: In this Nation there is supposed separation between church and state.   EXCEPT in the case of taxes, censorship, and personal choice issues etc.  

#3: "Dead Babies" Sounds like that flock of unwashed hippy sheep bleating "Baby Killer" at me in the '60s.

When I get where I'm going, I'm going to find my ancestor who was at Concord Bridge and say, "I don't think that it turned out the way you wanted..."  

I want an explanation of separation of church/state.

But first, let me just narrow the focus to...
How is it different if I use my heath benefit or my pay for the same thing?...
Both are coming from my employer.  Both are earned by me...
What's the difference?...
What if I dip into my 401k?...
Is what I earn truly mine, or not?...

I agree, stay with one issue at a time.

Let’s imagine you, Serobot,  owned a company with 500 employees publishing newspapers and books specifically targeted to atheist. In fact, you're business model is decidedly anti-Christian. You've been in business for years and very successful.

As an employee benefit you offer health insurance to your employees and pay for ½ or ¾ of it.  Now a conservative president and congress comes along and after a dubious supreme court decision, force you to add to your insurance the cost to cover distributing Bibles to prisons. They claim Bibles for prisoners is somehow tied to healthcare. You disagree with that, but the president says your opinion and history  doesn't matter. You have to pay out of your pocket an extra amount that goes directly to purchase Bibles.

If you drop your insurance coverage, you’ll have to pay a fine. Not much the first year, but debilitating the later years to the point if you don’t pay the fine, you’ll go out of business. So you either basically pay to buy Bibles or close up shop.

Now, honestly, what would you think if that were the case?

WebsterMark wrote on 06/18/15 at 06:01:02:

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I can't speak for mpescatori, but Hovis certainly has no 'population problems' concerning Europe.

As I said, the issue has been 'blown up' (hehe) out of all proportion by the western media, compared to what we see everyday here in Europe.

The reason why the western media does this has been explained many times before.

Please remember that myself, and mpesc, are both Europeans, living in Europe, with a wide grasp of European culture, European languages (plural), European history, European politics and European travel.

Perspective  
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Women with unborn popsicles?
Mark, you are neither a woman nor an unborn popsicle  

Perspective  

As I said, the issue has been 'blown up' (hehe) out of all proportion by the western media, compared to what we see everyday here in Europe.

The reason why the western media does this has been explained many times before.

Please remember that myself, and mpesc, are both Europeans, living in Europe, with a wide grasp of European culture, European languages (plural), European history, European politics and European travel.

I would suggest this is not correct. Neither of you are involved in the daily life of the growing population of disenfranchised radical Muslims any more than I am involved in inner city drug gangs in the US. (I'm guessing you were not facebook friends with the French newspaper killers anymore than I threw back a few beers with Michael Brown)
As I said, the Muslims I know bear no resemblance to radical Muslims. The blacks I know bear no resemblance to the blacks committing daily murders in the US, but both of those groups exist and while their impact is not necessarily felt by me directly, it nonetheless exist.

WebsterMark wrote on 06/18/15 at 05:50:49:


I'd be fine with it...
SCOTUS wouldn't... that's a separation of church n' state issue... that just wouldn't fly...

The point is,.. as an employer, I'm required to supply a health insurance package... Whatever services that provides can be utilized by my employes.
Which one's they choose to use is not my business...
They want a Bible?,.. not my business...
They don't?,.. not my business either...
It is their benefit to use as they wish...
Same as their wage... I can't go telling them what to buy with their income... even though I pay it to them...
Make sense?... ...

I doubt that you would be okay with it.

But back to the other point, the Catholic Church is not telling their employees they can't have birth-control or they can't get an abortion. They are not controlling their bodies. They just don't want to pay for it and I don't think that's an unreasonable position for them to take.  It was an overreach without precedent that Obama took.