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Reply #45 - 06/16/15 at 12:53:00
 
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They are not telling anyone what to do. The catholic church's argument is they should not be forced to pay for it. Birth control is not a life necessity. They should not be forced to pay for abortion pills yet that's what obamacare does.

Let's say a strict conservative president and congress were in office and they put forth evidence that Bibles in prisons cut the rate of return trips to prison by measurable amounts.
What if they put forth a tax plan that made all atheist pay directly for Bibles? Not as part of general taxes supplied to the general fund, but the government specifically taxed atheist organizations.
How could you complain? You would have no leg to stand on.


Sorry, but all abortions are matters of convience. All.
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Reply #46 - 06/16/15 at 14:04:37
 
WebsterMark wrote on 06/16/15 at 12:53:00:

Sorry, but all abortions are matters of convience. All.

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So half the world's population can't have control over their own bodies?
Is that because in Rome, an old guy wearing a dress (who cannot marry), who also believes in a virgin birth, says so?
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Reply #47 - 06/16/15 at 14:33:19
 
They HAD control ( barring rape ) when they chose to get pregnant.
At that moment, they leased the womb out.
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Reply #48 - 06/16/15 at 16:33:06
 
HovisPresley wrote on 06/16/15 at 14:04:37:
WebsterMark wrote on 06/16/15 at 12:53:00:

Sorry, but all abortions are matters of convience. All.

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So half the world's population can't have control over their own bodies?
Is that because in Rome, an old guy wearing a dress (who cannot marry), who also believes in a virgin birth, says so?


If by control, you mean freedom to kill babies, then yes, half the world doesn't get to decide who lives and who dies because they dont want stretch marks.
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Reply #49 - 06/16/15 at 17:42:54
 
So both Mark and 'the bachelor in the dress' are concerned because some women don't want stretch marks?

What an enlightening thread this is turning out to be!

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Reply #50 - 06/16/15 at 17:46:25
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 06/16/15 at 14:33:19:
They HAD control ( barring rape ) when they chose to get pregnant.
At that moment, they leased the womb out.

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I'll agree with that, Justin  
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Reply #51 - 06/16/15 at 20:18:23
 
HovisPresley wrote on 06/16/15 at 17:42:54:
So both Mark and 'the bachelor in the dress' are concerned because some women don't want stretch marks?

What an enlightening thread this is turning out to be!



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Reply #52 - 06/16/15 at 22:16:43
 
Web,.. are you turning back to the Darkside?..  Undecided...
It's called "English" for a reason... Grin Grin Grin...

It may be a hard pill,.. the English, speak English,... the French, speak French,.. the Spanish, speak Spanish,... Italians, speak Italian... Germans, speak German...
Americans...  ...speak English...
Gulp... Huh...

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Reply #53 - 06/17/15 at 04:14:29
 
Hey now, don't be overly harsh, that wasn't bad, it was funny! Not my fault I don't speak Hovis.....

As I predicted, prochoice baby killers will run from abortion arguments every time.

But my point regarding Hopey forcing the Catholic Church to pay for birth control and abortion pills still stands. It wasn't right and he shouldnt be allowed to make a decision like that. And you either completely misunderstand the issue or understand it very well and are purposely evading it by bring up the false equivalency about taking control and forcing women to live a certain way. No ones forcing anyone. Well, Hopey's forcing Catholics to go against their centuries old beliefs....
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Reply #54 - 06/17/15 at 04:18:35
 
And what the hell or who the hell is the bachelor in the dress?
That's a pretty obscure reference, sort of like listening to Dennis Miller on Monday Night Football....
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Reply #55 - 06/17/15 at 07:26:50
 
Geee-whiz ! A soul can't get a little R&R and what does one find on one's return ? Webstermark asking directions for the F12 Key ?

OK, Mark, here's what a true F12 looks like.................................. and the true F12 key !!!
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Serowbot wrote on 06/16/15 at 22:16:43:
Web,.. are you turning back to the Darkside?..  Undecided...
It's called "English" for a reason... Grin Grin Grin...

It may be a hard pill,.. the English, speak English,... the French, speak French,.. the Spanish, speak Spanish,... Italians, speak Italian... Germans, speak German...
Americans...  ...speak English...
Gulp... Huh...

Grin Grin Grin...


"We Greeks are but children"... - Solon...


Greeks and Italians gave the world GRAMMAR !



Grin Grin Grin

Aaahhh... it's good to be back  Cool
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Reply #56 - 06/17/15 at 07:28:24
 
A bachelor in a dress...... ever seen a priest? or a pope?
Ever heard of their opinion on abortion?

As for the use of English....
Quote WM;
"Sorry, but all abortions are matters of convience. All."

Webster's dictionary; "Definitions that set the standard for clarity"
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Reply #57 - 06/17/15 at 07:34:47
 
"Aaahhh... it's good to be back  Cool "

It's good to have you back  Cool
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Reply #58 - 06/17/15 at 07:46:51
 
WebsterMark wrote on 06/02/15 at 07:36:46:
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/01/15/5-facts-about-the-muslim-popu...

This is not rocket science. If the population of European  countries are declining due to low birth rates, when you consider the financial requirements of maintaining cradle to grave social entitlement programs, immigrants will come in to take available jobs. Many of those immigrants will be Muslims. The difference between Muslim immigrants as compared to others, Christian-based as you point out, is they don't assimilate into the culture. We are seeing this now in Canada. My company is home office is in Sweden and they are experiencing this.

Do politicians take advantage of this, of course they do, politicians take advantage of any situation. Look at the clowns in Baltimore and the way they have basically disarmed the police department over the past couple of months. The crime rates in inner-city Baltimore have skyrocketed. The mayor and other high-ranking city officials are insulated from crime but this helps to keep them in office. Politicians taking advantage of situations isn't new.

It's not pretty and it might be hard to swallow, but numbers simply don't lie. Changes are coming and I'm not sure there's anything that can be done to stem the tide. And if you don't believe this, simply look at the difference in the United States between 1960 and now with regards to Hispanic immigration. This is a vastly different country now compared to then. Whether you want to think that's good or bad is entirely up to you but you can't deny nations change when larger percentages of their population are immigrants who retain much of their former culture.


I clicked on the link, read the article, and grimaced... and here's why.

1. The article deals with "EU statistics"; why "EU" and not "European"? Europe also includes Norway, Switzerland and the entire Balkan Region which are not covered - yet these would give a much more complete picture.

2. The article uses shaded colors to show which Countries are more highly influenced by Islamic immigration, and only France and the Netherlands are shown as "high" (dark green) because of "over 6%"...
Huh
Whadayamean "over 6%" ? Why can't it be "over 5%" which is a LOT more obvious ?
Incidentally, if it were "over 5%", the darker shaded Countries would be not only France and the Netherlands, but also UK, Sweden and Belgium, with Spain and Sweden racing their way into the 5% Club.

3. The study deals with "Islamic immigration" regardless of ethnicity, which is extremely important.
Germany's 5.8% muslim population is essentially Turkish; the Turks are White, pro-western oriented and will integrate quite easily.
France's Algerian/Tunisian muslim population created islamic ghettos and demands to live according to their own customs and traditions...
The much secularized balkan Muslims were all but indescernible from Christians until the Balkan War(s) broke out and Bosnia became the prime investing area for Saudi Arabia.
The UK's islamic population comes from two world areas, Arabia (not so) Felix, (Saudis) who refuse integration altogether, and Pakistani/Bengalese, who are much more inclined towards integration (albeit not as much nor as successfully as the Hindus from India)

4. The article Leaves out history.
Unlike France, the Netherlands have a calm and easygoing relationship with their former colonies so that the majority of their islamic minority actually come from (relatively) placid Indonesia and Malaysia.
Bulgaria's 13.7% Muslim pupolation may seem like a Whole whopping lot, until one realizes the Ottomans had invaded Bulgaria in the late 15th Century (that's 500 years ago!)
Similar minorities are to be found everywhere in the Balkans - which the article placidly omits.
I conclude with Italy, which had a mere 0.1% islamic population (mostly Somalis and Eritreans) until the "boat people" affair started some 5 years ago, and in no more than 5 (five!) years we now have a good 3.7% population who are Muslims !
Shocked


In conclusion, a lopsided affair... created to give the uninformed reader a wrong perspective.
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Reply #59 - 06/17/15 at 08:02:09
 
I don't run away from the abortion issue,... but, chanting dead babies does not make a discussion...

The issue is not "dead babies"...
It is about individual rights...

The Catholic Church, is not an individual... in this case, it is a corporation employing people...
And it is subject to anti-discrimination laws....
It is also required to supply health insurance...
From there, a person has a right of privacy, and what happens between her and her doctor is privileged...
If they do not belive in birth control or abortion, they won't access it,... if they do, they will...
None of their employers business...

Some religions don't allow for blood transfusions...  others think Jesus is all you need to be healed, and might want to only offer prayer instead of any health care...
That's not okay...
It's fine for any individual to believe that,.. but not okay to impose it on people that are just doing a job...

Besides that,... what difference is it, if the heath program an employer pays for supplies an abortion, or the hourly wage they pay is used to get one?...
Either way, the money is still coming from the employer...
Can they now say that you can't use your wage to pay for things the Church don't like?...
Wages, retirement plans, health insurance, 401k contributions, are all just monetary reward for services rendered...
What you do with them is not your employers business...
You've done your work,... they have paid you...
Period...
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