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Reply #30 - 06/15/15 at 22:06:15
 
Most immigrants,... do try to hold to their heritage, but eventually become integrated to the place they live...
This is historical fact...

The exception, if there is one, would be us...  
Puritanical, Fundamentalist, Christian faith... we imposed it on the Native Americans, Hawaiians, Aboriginals, Mexicans, South Americans...etc...
Why do you think Christianity is the largest religion?...
We came, we saw, we baptized... Grin...
Under threat of death...

...and now we worry?...
Sometimes,.. it's good to be an atheist... Grin...

Don't be so fearful... once the children of Muslim immigrants discover beer, McDonald's, net porn, and  Pizza,... they'll be as American as can be...

Fear of radicalized religion is passe'...  
The trend is towards apathy...
Religion is dead...  
Even in America,.. religion has become more a socialization than a belief...
Friends, activities, business contacts...
Christianity is something we do, because we should...

I don't do anything I'm supposed to... Grin...
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Reply #31 - 06/16/15 at 03:24:17
 
Well said, Serowbot  Wink

The irony value of having Neo-Americans concerned about 'immigration' and 'imposed religion/laws' never fails to hit the spot.

It's a similar irony to the 'English and Proud' attitude;

Never mention to them about invaders/settlers over the years such as the Romans, Vikings, Angles, Saxons, Celts, Normans, Picts, Jutes, Danes, etc.... so can any white 'native' of England consider themselves to be English?
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Reply #32 - 06/16/15 at 04:29:03
 
Don't be so fearful... once the children of Muslim immigrants discover beer, McDonald's, net porn, and  Pizza,... they'll be as American as can be...


How ironic such a statement, and I will venture to say, since you uttered it, you don't see it.....  Undecided
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Reply #33 - 06/16/15 at 05:14:08
 
So, since we were mean and nasty, we shouldn't care if we are overtaken?
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Reply #34 - 06/16/15 at 05:37:25
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 06/16/15 at 05:14:08:
So, since we were mean and nasty, we shouldn't care if we are overtaken?


Impeccable logic; however, my ancestors did not participate in any of the aforementioned atrocities.

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Reply #35 - 06/16/15 at 05:52:55
 
Sew and Hovis are 100% correct, the influence of historic Christianity is on its way out in the USA, following the same path Europe has been on for sometime now.

The vacuum that's being created will continued to be filled with the values of secularism, atheism, environmentalism or whatever value happens to be popular that particular day.

Results matter however, but it remains to be seen what those results will be. We have clues: look to Europe, look at modern culture, look at what/who  passes for role models.

I read a perfect example for today's world: "Kaitlyn Jenner still has her thingy".  Those are words which really should never go together but today they are printed with barely a whisper or, for that matter, even a thought of embarrassment. This is the world Sew and Hovis Look forward to. This is an improvement? This is enlightenment? This is something on which to build a future?
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Reply #36 - 06/16/15 at 06:14:56
 
how funny and ironic..... Our politically correct auto-editor changed the word "Pen!s" to thingie.....   Guess the truth is too much!

Yes, Mr. Jenner still has her thing.....  Is she's more of a man or is that white lady more black?...  aw.... welcome to Sew and Hovis's world...
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Reply #37 - 06/16/15 at 07:09:01
 
Progressive culture has it's problems,... but you have to look at the alternative...
Fundamentalism beckons a new Dark Age... where we deny science and fear people that are different...
It's the equivalent Muslim fanaticism that has people getting their heads and hands cut off, and women in burkas.
Jenner's of the world would still exist in the shadows...

Progress is glacial... it will flow forward no matter how hard you push against it...
Wailing against it, is pissin' in the wind...
...(which Jenner can still do, apparently)... Undecided...

Our auto-sensor is hilarious... Remember GW thingy, Thingy Cheney?...
You should have said, Jenner still has his petcock...Grin...
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Reply #38 - 06/16/15 at 07:24:18
 
Progressive culture has it's problems,... but you have to look at the alternative...
Fundamentalism beckons a new Dark Age... where we deny science and fear people that are different...


Those things are simply not true. You are pulling fragments out and extrapolating them to far larger portions than they are.

But regardless, you are right and I am wrong. The modern world favors your views and not mine. For my grand daughter's sake, I hope it turns out peaceful, I hope your world offers her peace and happiness.
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Reply #39 - 06/16/15 at 07:25:23
 
Serowbot wrote on 06/16/15 at 07:09:01:

You should have said, Jenner still has his petcock...Grin...

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Reply #40 - 06/16/15 at 07:33:38
 
WebsterMark wrote on 06/16/15 at 07:24:18:
You are pulling fragments out and extrapolating them to far larger portions than they are.

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Like some people do when they reckon 'far away' Europe is being Islamified and taken over? .....
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Reply #41 - 06/16/15 at 08:16:35
 
WebsterMark wrote on 06/16/15 at 07:24:18:
Progressive culture has it's problems,... but you have to look at the alternative...
Fundamentalism beckons a new Dark Age... where we deny science and fear people that are different...


Those things are simply not true. You are pulling fragments out and extrapolating them to far larger portions than they are.


Teaching Creationism along side evolution in schools?...
Denial of climate change?...
Defense of Marriage Act?...
Blocking abortion and birth control access?...

Hastert's problems stem from his religiously imposed shame and denial...  and created molester of students...
Ted Haggard lived a life of lies and shame and betrayal...
...and then there's all those priests...

Gays still exist under Christianity,
Christian women take the pill, and have abortions,.. or worse...
...and the Earth is still round...

PS... Web,... I like your new style... I feel much more welcome to participate...
And the argument is much more intelligent...
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Reply #42 - 06/16/15 at 09:51:33
 
Teaching Creationism along side evolution in schools?...

First off; that does not happen in every school, even in predominantly Christian areas and number 2; there are enough questions about evolution that deserve asking.

Denial of climate change?...

You ‘believe’ global warming because scientist have told you so but every single predictions they’ve made has been wrong and on the high side.  Some major scientific names deny it or at the very least, do not think it is as significant or imminent as portrayed (which is what I think). The bigger questions is why do you not question it?

Defense of Marriage Act?...

I don’t see how it’s unreasonable to question changing what is arguably one of the most fundamental aspects of all historical societies. Are you smart enough to predict what the outcome will be on future generations if the understanding of what marriage is, is altered? I’m not and I don’t know anyone who is. But again, your kind has won this. That horse has left the barn. Marriage will be re-defined to include any two (or more) people who declare themselves to be a married. That’s quite a change that’s never occurred in all of human history that I’m aware of.

Blocking abortion and birth control access?...

Absolutely I would abortion. As demonstrated on here and other places, you and others will run for the hills rather than an indepth abortion debate. You have no leg to stand on. Killing a baby because it’s an inconvenience for you is wrong. Yea, conservatives are right to fight this to the bloody end.

Birth control; again, who are you (or who is Obama) to simply wipe away centuries of religious objection? How is it possible that Obama can unilaterally say to the Catholic Church “so what? to 500 years of your  beliefs. They mean nothing to me”.

Hastert's problems stem from his religiously imposed shame and denial...  and created molester of students...
Ted Haggard lived a life of lies and shame and betrayal...
...and then there's all those priests...


Openly gay teachers never molested children? You think if we embrace whatever lifestyle you have in mind for gays that suddenly perverts will leave children alone?

I have a 5 hour drive in front of me so will check back later. I would like for you or others to explain to me why they are so sure gay marriage will have either no impact or a positive impact on society. And I'm sure you won't but if you want to tackle abortion go ahead.
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Reply #43 - 06/16/15 at 10:13:36
 
WebsterMark wrote on 06/16/15 at 09:51:33:
Openly gay teachers never molested children? You think if we embrace whatever lifestyle you have in mind for gays that suddenly perverts will leave children alone?
I think a person that is sexually repressed is more likely to resort to abusing children, because they can be manipulated... The examples I gave would demonstrate that to be true

I have a 5 hour drive in front of me so will check back later. I would like for you or others to explain to me why they are so sure gay marriage will have either no impact or a positive impact on society. And I'm sure you won't but if you want to tackle abortion go ahead.

The Catholic Church is not a person,... it's an organization... it shouldn't have protected rights... (SCOTUS is wrong in granting personhood to non-persons)...
Catholics are people... they have rights... they don't have to marry, and don't have to have abortions, or eat shellfish if they don't want to...
They don't have the right to tell anyone else what they legally can or can't do...
This is the separation of church and state...

Inconvenience,.. is not the only reason women have abortions... it's just convenient to your argument to make it so...
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Reply #44 - 06/16/15 at 11:02:39
 
Cut to the chase.....

My thoughts and beliefs are the only truth, or I would not entertain them. I have viewed the world though that prism, and it holds its spectrum, as it did for those who taught me....

Sorry to suggest that life is subjective, and everyone is just as entitled to theirs, as I am mine, only I will use all the resources I can to not prove you wrong, no, but to prove that I am right....
I won't call it war, I will call it education, even if forced....
Muslms, indeed, how dare they!
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