WebsterMark wrote on 06/02/15 at 05:33:27:


Name a European country being destroyed, I'm not aware of this.

Those immigrants are mainly Polish/Eastern Europeans and their culture has a Christian base.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/01/15/5-facts-about-the-muslim-popu...

This is not rocket science. If the population of European  countries are declining due to low birth rates, when you consider the financial requirements of maintaining cradle to grave social entitlement programs, immigrants will come in to take available jobs. Many of those immigrants will be Muslims. The difference between Muslim immigrants as compared to others, Christian-based as you point out, is they don't assimilate into the culture. We are seeing this now in Canada. My company is home office is in Sweden and they are experiencing this.

Do politicians take advantage of this, of course they do, politicians take advantage of any situation. Look at the clowns in Baltimore and the way they have basically disarmed the police department over the past couple of months. The crime rates in inner-city Baltimore have skyrocketed. The mayor and other high-ranking city officials are insulated from crime but this helps to keep them in office. Politicians taking advantage of situations isn't new.

It's not pretty and it might be hard to swallow, but numbers simply don't lie. Changes are coming and I'm not sure there's anything that can be done to stem the tide. And if you don't believe this, simply look at the difference in the United States between 1960 and now with regards to Hispanic immigration. This is a vastly different country now compared to then. Whether you want to think that's good or bad is entirely up to you but you can't deny nations change when larger percentages of their population are immigrants who retain much of their former culture.

You forgot to mention the destruction of European countries.

Maybe you should consider living in Europe, (amongst assimilated-muslims, perhaps) to get an idea of what you are looking at.

Then comment.  

"Meaning of course you could not speak about conservative Christianity for example" (WM)

Why not? I live in a conservative Christian country, and I haven't changed my religion since being Christened?

A person can talk about what they like, but I'll only listen if they have some experience to back it up.

PS. Do you think I'm a muslim, Mark?

WebsterMark wrote on 06/02/15 at 08:47:03:


Please don't misquote me to suit your own ends. I said some experience, not personal experience.

I can talk about the UK Prime-minister because I was part of the process that made him just that. I have been to the houses of parliament myself.
Stick to what you know, Mark.
Avoid what you don't know because you are 5000 miles away and only have the media to tell you......

PS. I thought you were leaving?

But if an American chooses to refer to a UK article about Germany, in which Germany is experiencing immigration from other nations....

and besides.... I promised Sew I would play nice from now on and I will. I made one other promise to him which I've kept and I intend to keep this one.

Your article made no mention of muslims.

I’m starting to think you don’t read very well. As I stated, it didn’t need to, anyone who has, what did you say, some experience, knows who those immigrants will include. I have ‘some’ experience so I think I’m qualified to venture a guess.

Please believe me that no-one is taking over European countries....
Remember, I live here. That is my experience.

See me in 10 years….  And again, ask those 52 dead from the London Tube bombings what they think about Muslims in European countries.

You lack that experience so rely on spoon-fed media....

I’ve been to Europe plenty of times. I talk to Europeans who are in business weekly. I am not spoon fed.  (Not sure what you do for a living....)  Again, you don’t have to have lived in Africa to comment on it. This is your way of trying to exclude anyone's opinion that challenges your liberal view of the world.

PS. When you wrote your 'goodbye' post, I pressed that key next to the F12. Please be aware of that.

No idea what the key next to your F12 does nor do I care.  

Let’s just leave it with the facts as laid out in the article. If you care to actually challenge them directly, please feel free.

Muslims are immigrating into Europe, (particularly Germany according to the facts laid out in the article) due to Europe’s low fertility rates (which is well known and documented) and  it will change the face of Europe over time. (as already demonstrated in France for example)
Those facts are not debatable.