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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Previous owners i tell ya Reply #15 - 05/13/15 at 15:03:33 Okay! You win the prize for buying the worst maintained Savage I've heard of. I can't imagine removing the rear brake shoes,, talk about idiocy taken to an art form,, wow..
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Reply #16 - 05/13/15 at 18:38:19

Art Webb wrote on 05/13/15 at 09:55:50:

actually the cars in the old days had an accelerator pump to bridge the gap

What is your idea of "old days".........I am not sure when the accelerator pump showed up - but I can show you a lot of brass era cars that don't have any accelerator pump.

I know cars in the 50's had accelerator pumps - I don't know how much earlier.

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arteacher Serious Thumper Offline Ride as if your naked and invisable! Posts: 2581 London ontario Gender:	Re: Previous owners i tell ya Reply #17 - 05/13/15 at 19:32:34 I bought a year old car that had been repoed in the southern states and sat up here in Canada for a few months before I bought it from a dealer. It had a mouses nest in the cabin filter, the air filter, and under the back seat.
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jcstokes Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com is very useful Posts: 2119 Mauku New Zealand Gender:	Re: Previous owners i tell ya Reply #18 - 05/13/15 at 19:34:00 Dave's right on very old cars not having Accelerator pumps. Zenith used a sort of vacuum system cheap Tillotson's didn't have pumps and Model A Fords had a knob you could enrich with from the dashboard.
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HovisPresley Serious Thumper Offline Good Vibrations! Posts: 991 Midlands, UK Gender:	Re: Previous owners i tell ya Reply #20 - 05/14/15 at 03:25:49 arteacher wrote on 05/13/15 at 19:32:34: It had a mouses nest in the cabin filter, the air filter, and under the back seat. If it was fitted with a Cat converter, problem solved
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Neilap Full Member Offline I cant hear you over the awesome. Posts: 183 Morgantown, W.V. Gender:	Re: Previous owners i tell ya Reply #21 - 05/14/15 at 05:36:22 Lulz, iv been having spider problems with the savage. they love to make webs on it and I have no idea where they are coming from. I almost wrecked one what when a nickel sized jumping spider was sitting on my mirror
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Reply #22 - 05/14/15 at 21:24:46

Dave wrote on 05/13/15 at 18:38:19:

Art Webb wrote on 05/13/15 at 09:55:50:

actually the cars in the old days had an accelerator pump to bridge the gap

What is your idea of "old days".........I am not sure when the accelerator pump showed up - but I can show you a lot of brass era cars that don't have any accelerator pump.

I know cars in the 50's had accelerator pumps - I don't know how much earlier.

well I'm old and I'm a 1966 model lol
You said old, you didn't mention a specific year Wink

the Model T was actually the first car a driver of today would have the slightest notion of how to drive
A lot of carts back then had hand throttles like a boat, and the other controls were often more bizarre, for what I've seen
now I wanna google it and see when the accelerator pump was added to automotive carbs
oddly, the Rebel still has one

edit, tried googling, no answer, google sucks Grin

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Previous owners i tell ya Reply #23 - 05/14/15 at 22:11:48 Kawasaki W 650 has one.
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Reply #24 - 05/14/15 at 22:26:39

Art Webb, I can't give an answer as to when the accelerator pump first appeared, but it was in use in the mid 'twenties and in quite widespread use by the late 'twenties on a number of mid price range cars, including the Whippet Six. An ordinary driver would have much fun and games attempting to drive a Model T without a very experienced tutor who had logged a good many hours in one.

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Reply #25 - 05/15/15 at 03:19:56

I have driven a lot of early brass era cars......and the Model T is the toughest one to drive. Three pedals on the floor is just not something any modern driver can adapt to very quickly.

The right pedal is the foot brake. The left pedal is the gears.....middle position is neutral, down is low gear and all the way out is high gear. The middle pedal is reverse. When you pull on the hand brake it moves the left pedal to neutral.....when you release the hand brake you have to have your left foot on the gear pedal to keep it in neutral. When you want to move you have to push the left pedal down for low gear....then once up to speed you let the pedal all the way out for high gear. To reverse you use your left foot to hold the left gear pedal in neutral - then you use your right foot to push the middle pedal down for reverse gear. You can push the right brake pedal at any time to slow the car down.

I can tell you that when you get in a jamb and your instinct kicks in......and you mash down on the left gear pedal with your left foot and also mash down on the right brake pedal with your right foot (like you would with a normal clutch and brake transmission).....low gear is stronger than the brakes and you will just drive right through the intersection as the traffic light turns red! Shocked

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Reply #26 - 05/15/15 at 09:21:29

Dave said

.low gear is stronger than the brakes and you will just drive right through the intersection as the traffic light turns red!

Heres how I read it

.low gear is stronger than the brakes and you will just rocket right through the intersection as the traffic light turns red asthe car uncontrollably accelerates toward its top speed, a speed so fast that people worried whether or not humans could survive even Going that fast, or whether they might just fly right off the edge of the flat earth.

Yes, Dave, I've taken liberties, my apologies, just having fun.

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Art Webb Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3007 columbus, Texas Gender:	Re: Previous owners i tell ya Reply #27 - 05/15/15 at 10:28:07 yup, cable operated rear wheel only brakes suck donkey jewels but try earlier cars, with tillers instead of steering wheels, and only three of those so according to JC stokes the mid twenties average car had an accelerator pump that qualifies as the old days 'far as I'm concerned, as the automobile not even 20 yet
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Reply #28 - 05/16/15 at 04:25:19

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 05/15/15 at 09:21:29:

Low gear is stronger than the brakes and you will just rocket right through the intersection as the traffic light turns red as the car uncontrollably accelerates toward its top speed, a speed so fast that people worried whether or not humans could survive even Going that fast, or whether they might just fly right off the edge of the flat earth.

Yes, Dave, I've taken liberties, my apologies, just having fun.

I am pretty sure that is how my female office manager in the passenger seat relates the experience.....it was her first ride in an antique car (and most likely her last). Wink

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