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HovisPresley Said:
“ … (the last line would, in practical terms, be where common sense is applied to a given situation, whether in a liberal or a conservative manner) …”
Which was the response to the last line I said:
“UNTIL, You tell ME, what, I should do””That line is where I have a big problem. That is not, freedom.
Who, decides? And How do they decide?
Let’s take a, ‘mandatory helmet’ law.
Why was it made? Why do some States have one, others do not?
(Answer to that is, ’States Rights”, the thing that the, “Civil War”, was about)
Now in a, Socialized, Country, their is a argument that, a, ‘Helmet Law’, saves you money.
Because, their is Socialized Medicine, and No one pays for health care,
(((but, EVERYONE, pays for health care))), Their is a argument.
(Because, same/same/same, two MC crashes, one wearing, one not,
The greater odds of less injury, go the the helmet wearer)
And, ‘free’ health care, it would cost,
EVERYBODY'S, less money, to heal the helmeted person)
But in a country, where one Pays, for their OWN, Health care.
Should it not be a choice? Simply because it affects no one else?
Or, perhaps take it one step further.
(Here in MN no Helmet law, ‘except for 18 & under, and Provisional Licenses’)
So perhaps, the law should be changed to:
"If you PAY, for your own Insurance, Helmet is a Choice.
If the, State, pays your Insurance, then you MUST, wear a helmet”
Reason, if the State, pays your insurance, and you get into a accident,
then, EVERYONE, pays, (Even the ones that pay their OWN, insurance),
so you must wear a helmet, because it will COST,
EVERYONE ELSE that is paying, less money.
Of course, that could never happen,
One might, ‘offend’, someone.
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HovisPresley Said: … To me, a conservative person would want to maintain established values and keep the status quo, often irrespective to changes (for better or worse) for the sake of ‘cautious traditionalism’. …”
I disagree, Perhaps in your country, that may be the case, but here, it has been proven, time and time again, to be, a, liberal, person, wants ‘change’ for the sake of change. Not, a well thought plan, just, ‘change’. And it has been PROVEN, beyond a shadow of a double, by the ACA, (Obama Care). Where, out and out LIES and Deception, are now PROVEN, to be the way that passed.
And it is just Not the ACA, it is Many, MANY other things also.
I do want to ask a question.
I have been to the UK, three times, in the last 40 years.
Each time, I had to have a valid passport, BEFORE, I boarded the airplane here.
And then in the UK, it was inspected again, and it was stamped, for a 3 to 6 month visit.
The last time, Customs in Manchester, a young gal was checking my Passport, then she looked up at me and said:
“As a Yank, you are aware of the, ‘New Law’, governing US Citizens visiting here?”
Totally surprised, I said no. Then she said:
“It is required, that you MUST go to bed, on the same day you wake up”
(Then ‘winked’ at me)OK, getting back on point. Let’s say, I flew to France, did the passport thing.
Then hitched a ride through the Chunnel, or by boat, over the Channel.
Now I am on UK Soil, with no one checking a Passport.
I get a job, in a little fishing village, clean the catches, and find a room, over a Pub to stay in.
Now one day, I have this huge, tooth ache, so I go to the dentist,
Health care is, ‘free’. I, make up a, ‘English’, sounding name, let’s say:
Thomas Hardy. Everything is fine.
Then years later, some how, some way, someone, finds out,
I am NOT, a UK Subject. But a USA Citizen.
And Thomas Hardy is not my real name.
What would the UK, Government do ?
And one other POV, of mine;
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Then another person, screams and hollers, and wales, in a language, un known to the first person.
A, liberal, (and Liberal), will bow down, and kiss Axx, and do anything they can, to, ‘appease’, that person.
A, Tolerant person, will say: “I can buy anything I want at this store, if you don’t like it, go to, ‘that’ store, (where they don’t sell what you are objecting to), and buy from them.”
The, ‘liberal’, attitude, accounts for MORE, bloodshed, because it, ’Teaches’, some people,
they are, MORE, equal than others.
There's a name for that
Positive Reinforcement
If someone gets what they want through a certain behavior, they will continue that behavior, just as a child whose parents give them what they want every time they throw a fit will become more and more ill behaved, so will an adult, until confronted by someone who refuses to be cowed
this of course may end in bloodshed, not because he was confronted, but because he was appeased for so long before being confronted
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