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Art Webb Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3007 columbus, Texas Gender:	Re: Don't like this at all Reply #15 - 04/30/15 at 21:45:01 or...you could buy and lovingly maintain a classic vehicle
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Reply #17 - 05/01/15 at 08:47:05

Which I also agree with. I have a 87 model F150, and the ethanol has been hard on it. What they can't ruin they can legislate out of existence.
What's coming is coming. Until there is a change of direction for the country,
You and I may be able to push it back For US, but, eventually, what is for the masses is for US,too. Lightbulbs, toilets, showers, someone else is deciding for me.. for my own good,of course.

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Art Webb Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3007 columbus, Texas Gender:	Re: Don't like this at all Reply #18 - 05/01/15 at 10:40:12 Ethanol can be removed from gas, if you want to go through all the trouble of doing it http://goldwingdocs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=14679 My old 76 Chevy had no problem with the stuff, but man did it drink gas
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Reply #19 - 05/02/15 at 09:02:41

If we all start building our own vehicles, it won't be long before the politicians and car makers get together and make the home-builts have to meet all federal safety and environmental standards.

We all need at least one engine that is either a completely mechanical compression ignition engine or no electronics with points for when the EMP comes. We'll still be able to get around.

I submit an alternate proposal. All computer code must be openly available. Not just the first rev. all revisions that made it into production at the time of sale of the first unit containing it. All processors in any vehicle shall have an easily accessible data connection for the OWNER, no quotes, of said processor to be able to read and change any item deemed necessary. The OWNER, no quotes, shall have complete and total access to and control of any and all functions manipulated electronically. The manufacturer of said unit shall provide, in several currently prevalent operating systems, interfacing software, with the vehicle, allowing this access and control. The data connector(s) shall be of currently prevalent design at time of manufacture, as usb is now. There shall be no special connectors or required special cables.

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Art Webb Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3007 columbus, Texas Gender:	Re: Don't like this at all Reply #20 - 05/03/15 at 10:07:03 you'll never get that passed, i gaurantee so far as building our own, who brought that up? i was talking about buying old cars trust me, enough Sheeple will buy the electronic nannys that we'll be allowed to keep our classics
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Reply #21 - 05/04/15 at 01:04:52

oldNslow wrote on 04/21/15 at 11:36:32:

"ALL YOUR AUTOMOBILES ARE NOW BELONG TO US"

Big corporations hand in hand with big overreaching governments = Fascism

Benito would be so proud !

Please mind your own McCarthy business... you may have mistaken Stalin, Mao or PolPot with an otherwise comparatively very liberal dictator...

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Reply #22 - 05/04/15 at 05:17:48

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 05/01/15 at 08:47:05:

Which I also agree with. I have a 87 model F150, and the ethanol has been hard on it. What they can't ruin they can legislate out of existence.

For a while I felt that the EPA and others should allow a way for us to purchased ethanol free fuel for our older equipment. So many of us have older equipment that works just fine (as long as it is not stored with ethanol fuel in the tank)....and that is especially true of the small farmer who is still running their old gasoline tractors. How many small farmers are still running the Ford 8N tractors for raking hay?.....lots of them. And this seasonal equipment often sits for extended periods of time and the ethanol fuel has been really hard on the old carburetor equipped equipment.

I finally came to the conclusion that the legislators goal is to remove all this old equipment from the workforce.......they want us using new equipment that is more environmentally friendly. They really could care less about the "bottom feeders"....the ones who are just barely getting by.

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Reply #23 - 05/04/15 at 09:19:22

Dave wrote on 05/04/15 at 05:17:48:

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 05/01/15 at 08:47:05:

Which I also agree with. I have a 87 model F150, and the ethanol has been hard on it. What they can't ruin they can legislate out of existence.

For a while I felt that the EPA and others should allow a way for us to purchased ethanol free fuel for our older equipment. So many of us have older equipment that works just fine (as long as it is not stored with ethanol fuel in the tank)....and that is especially true of the small farmer who is still running their old gasoline tractors. How many small farmers are still running the Ford 8N tractors for raking hay?.....lots of them. And this seasonal equipment often sits for extended periods of time and the ethanol fuel has been really hard on the old carburetor equipped equipment.

I finally came to the conclusion that the legislators goal is to remove all this old equipment from the workforce.......they want us using new equipment that is more environmentally friendly. They really could care less about the "bottom feeders"....the ones who are just barely getting by.

//agreed

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Art Webb Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3007 columbus, Texas Gender:	Re: Don't like this at all Reply #24 - 05/04/15 at 09:44:02 I reached that conclusion long ago
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Reply #25 - 05/04/15 at 10:00:56

I had a grampa who was a farmer. I WATCHED, every summer, when I went to visit, more neighbours who had sold out to some conglomerate. The big farmers are making tons from subsidies, the food supply is being brought under more and more centralized control, fewer farmers, easier to control.
I overheard a farmers wife bragging, I was torn between puking, listening to learn, screaming or chewing her out.
She's convinced that it's OKAY to pocket money sent to her by the government after it was taken from the rest of the people by fraud. And she was looking forward to more.

The GOAL is tyranny, and they are winning.

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