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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Here's an odd one - transmission gears Reply #15 - 04/19/15 at 09:21:44 If you have place and time, get a motor that needs top end work, split the cases, be prepared to sell parts or scrap it. But, you MIGHT just be able to put a taller 5th in...
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Reply #16 - 04/19/15 at 11:40:50

Ok, having distances remain the same and everything has got me thinking... Use the stock pieces as they were intended, sort of.

Since 2nd gear is geared 30:19 (or 1.5789:1), what if we added a second 2nd gear in the 5th gear position but flipped it to a 19:30 (or 0.6333:1)? That would be a worthwhile swap AND we could keep the 100,000 mile belt.

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Reply #17 - 04/19/15 at 14:48:42

Kris01 wrote on 04/19/15 at 11:40:50:

Ok, having distances remain the same and everything has got me thinking... Use the stock pieces as they were intended, sort of.

Since 2nd gear is geared 30:19 (or 1.5789:1), what if we added a second 2nd gear in the 5th gear position but flipped it to a 19:30 (or 0.6333:1)? That would be a worthwhile swap AND we could keep the 100,000 mile belt.

Thoughts?

Look at the part diagram again....see how the gears have bumps, machined oval holes and grooves in them? Some gears sit on a shaft and never move, some gears slide left and right and engage other gears......you just can't toss them into any position in the gearbox.

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Kris01 Serious Thumper Offline Eat, sleep, RIDE! Posts: 3767 Tennessee Gender:	Re: Here's an odd one - transmission gears Reply #18 - 04/19/15 at 15:04:27 Buzzkill! I'll give up now. I was just thinking out loud. I might just convert to chain.
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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18098 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: Here's an odd one - transmission gears Reply #19 - 04/19/15 at 16:29:03 The front Kawasaki pulley conversion is much nicer than a chain swap. It is neat and tidy as the original belt. The only hard part is finding someone who can machine it a bit narrower at the hub.
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Kris01 Serious Thumper Offline Eat, sleep, RIDE! Posts: 3767 Tennessee Gender:	Re: Here's an odd one - transmission gears Reply #20 - 04/19/15 at 19:09:55 The only drawback I see with the Kawi pulley is you're stuck with 1 ratio. Other than that, I agree with you Dave.
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Re: Here's an odd one - transmission gears
Reply #21 - 04/20/15 at 07:52:07

Kris01 wrote on 04/19/15 at 19:09:55:

The only drawback I see with the Kawi pulley is you're stuck with 1 ratio. Other than that, I agree with you Dave.

Well the front pulley conversion raises the ratio by 8.7 %...which is a definite step in the right direction. With a stock engine and bike this is about as far as you might want to go.

The combined change by doing front and rear pulleys is 18%....and needs a bump in the stock HP to work well.

My bike has the double pulley conversion and an 18" rear wheel which bumps the gearing up even more.....5th gear now is only for use above 60 mph.

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