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Reply #1 - 04/06/15 at 15:27:11
 
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Reply #2 - 04/07/15 at 10:08:52
 
That was interesting. I didn't know those three things. Now, I need to see if those three things are true.

Bottom line, will there be a big religious war within 20 - 30 years on a scale larger than WWII? Maybe 100 million killed?

Seems we are heading in that direction.
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Reply #3 - 04/07/15 at 11:51:59
 
Mark -
We're already involved in that war, but Hopey just won't admit it.
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Reply #4 - 04/08/15 at 08:42:00
 
Maybe cause he's on their side.....
Certainly seems he's the only president in our history that you're not entirely sure if he puts the interest of his citizens first....
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Reply #5 - 04/08/15 at 09:35:42
 
Funny thing is,... same God, different Messiah...

Christians and Muslims are just sects of Judaism...

...and they are all just a retelling of older myths anyway...

Jeeez...us... Huh...
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Ludicrous Speed !... ... Huh...
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Reply #6 - 04/08/15 at 12:38:56
 
indeed, most all religions seem to share the same backstory, with various twists
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Reply #7 - 04/22/15 at 11:36:51
 
The idea of a holy war is an oxymoron. Killing for peace? Believe in my god or I'll kill you? I totally respect religious freedom just as long as you aren't cramming it down my throat or telling me I'm wrong and your religion is right. I've had so many different religions in my 18 years of teaching and 99% of them have been open, friendly, accepting and pretty amazing. There is a small 1% that were obstinate jerks; honestly, they were the ones that did the least amount of work too. One wouldn't do a project because it interfered with his religious beliefs. He was "muslum" as were 3 others in the class, and they saw no problem with it. So drawing the colors of the 4 seasons is against their religion. He was just using religion as a cop-out.
Religion goes way back beyond the written language and has always had a core in the thought of something beyond of who we/ they are.
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Reply #8 - 04/23/15 at 14:29:40
 
I think your reply should be "fine, write X number of pages on how your religion views this assignment, please also provide your religious leaders name and contact info so you may discuss it with them."

As long as you give them work and the threat of checking it, I think you'll find they'll pick the easier work to do.
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Reply #9 - 04/24/15 at 10:34:58
 
Holy war,   wow,  bloody conflict, but, if you believe the Bible, and IMO, it's not reasonable to believe that every word is accurate, too many people have translated it, it was assembled from documents that were assembled after how many years? And some written how long after the fact?
Now, for the question of Holy War, WAS there a time when God told someone to Go and TAKE a land? And did he tell them to scatter the enemy, just force them off the land or did He say KILL them all, even to the last animal? And why fight at all? Is God not God? Couldn't he have just driven one people away and given the land to those of his choosing? Or, better yet, rather than be forced FROM a lesser land and move to a better land, why not let God just make the land they are on equal or better to where they are going? But then I know nothing, really, of the people, the bloodline, the objectives and the true nature of God, only that he IS. And not from being told or taught, but from things that I have had happen.
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Reply #10 - 04/24/15 at 11:15:00
 
I am taking an Art History class at the present.
Sigh... it's a requirement...

Anyway, I was scolded for being disrespectful to Christianity. The professor said it was hard to distinguish between tongue-in-cheek and disrespect, and reminded me of the policy.

Why do we treat minotaurs and centaurs from Greek mythology as... myth?
But dragons (Revelations 12:3), unicorns (Isaiah 34:7), and fairies (Deuteronomy) are treated as factual?


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Reply #11 - 04/24/15 at 13:09:10
 
The unicorn thing is beyond me to explain. You didn't note the verse on fairies, so, I got nothing.
As to the dragon reference, I think a bible scholar could explain it as not a literal dragon, but a group, note the heads, working together, with evil intent. The bible is full of oblique references, requiring knowledge of other scriptures to decipher.
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Reply #12 - 04/24/15 at 21:20:53
 
Dragons are one of the few things that nearly every culture, even those that have never interacted, have come up with, all bearing a similar likeness.
Paraquat: I've taught a few art history classes and interpretation is one of the hardest things to teach as everyone has their own views. Being disrespectful to Christianity is something the teacher took personally and something a teacher must separate themselves from. Our job is to teach; not judge (Unless they like rap "music" and Apple "computers".) Smiley so would the teacher be okay if you called Buddha a cross-legged, bald, fat dude? If he would be fine with that and mad about Christianity, he is out of place with his teaching principle.
As far as art history, there are many reasons people created art 30,000 years ago until now; Money, religion, expression, boredom, storytelling, teaching, saying "I was here", map markers, etc... Have fun with it. There is a lot more to art history than Leonardo Da Vinci, Monet and Jasper Johns. Wink If you have any questions about your class, feel free to drop me an e-mail. Smiley
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Reply #13 - 04/25/15 at 10:56:06
 
here's an email I've gotten recently...


Islam in a Nutshell
Islam, not the Chinese nor the Russians, represent the greatest threat to the world and might be the fulfillment of the book of Revelation in the Holy Bible. This is very disturbing for a Christian to read, but read it and be educated.

Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat

Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.

Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges.

When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well.

Here's how it works:

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:

United States -- Muslim 0.6%  
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
China -- Muslim 1.8%
Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%
Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
Spain -- Muslim 4%
Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

>From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:

France -- Muslim 8%
Philippines -- Muslim 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law.  The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. . Any non-Muslim action offends Islam and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections in:

Guyana -- Muslim 10%
India -- Muslim 13.4%
Israel -- Muslim 16%
Kenya -- Muslim 10%
Russia -- Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

>From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania -- Muslim 70%
Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%
Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%
Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and is on-going in:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
Egypt -- Muslim 90%
Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98%
Iraq -- Muslim 97%
Jordan -- Muslim 92%
Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
Palestine -- Muslim 99%
Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of Peace. Here there's supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
Somalia -- Muslim 100%
Yemen -- Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

'Before I was nine, I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; the tribe against the world, and all of us against the infidel. -- Leon Uris, 'The Haj'

It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even enter these ghettos. There are no national courts, nor schools, nor non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. The children attend madrasses. They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death. Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more power than the national average would indicate.

Today's 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world's population. But their birth rates are higher than the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the world's population by the end of this century.

Well, boys and girls, today we are letting the fox guard the henhouse. The wolves will be herding the sheep!

NOTE: Has anyone ever heard a new government official being identified as a devout Catholic, a devout Jew or a devout Protestant...? Just wondering.

Devout Muslims being appointed to critical Homeland Security positions? Doesn't this make you feel safer already??

That should make the United States much safer, huh!! Was it not "Devout Muslim men" that flew planes into U.S. buildings only 10 years ago? We must never forget this.. Was it not a Devout Muslim man who killed 13 at Fort Hood ? (He killed "From within" -don't forget that).

Also: This is very interesting and we all need to read it from start to finish. Maybe this is why our American Muslims are so quiet and not speaking out about any atrocities. Can a good Muslim be a good American? This question was forwarded to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years. The following is his reply:

Theologically - no . . . Because his allegiance is to Allah, The moon God of Arabia

Religiously - no. Because no other religion is accepted by His Allah except Islam (Quran, 2:256)(Koran)

Scripturally - no. Because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of Islam and the Quran.

Geographically - no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca , to which he turns in prayer five times a day.

Socially - no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews..

Politically - no.Because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America , the great Satan.

Domestically - no. Because he is instructed to marry four Women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34)

Intellectually - no. Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.

Philosophically - no. Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow freedom of religion and expression.. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.

Spiritually - no. Because when we declare 'one nation under God,' the Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as Heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in The Quran's 99 excellent names.

Therefore, after much study and deliberation. ... Perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. - - - They obviously cannot be both 'good' Muslims and good Americans. Call it what you wish, it's still the truth. You had better believe it. The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country and our future. The war is bigger than we know or understand.

Can a Muslim be a good soldier???

Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, opened fire at Ft. Hood and Killed 13. He is a good Muslim!!!

Footnote: The Muslims have said they will destroy us from within.

SO FREEDOM IS NOT FREE.
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Reply #14 - 04/25/15 at 15:39:31
 
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The Muslims have said they will destroy us ...



And we are fools if we refuse to take them at their word.

When your enemy tells you exactly what his intentions are,and you chose to ignore that information, which a lot of the so-called smart folks in this country are doing, then you are either very foolish, or you are complicit with that enemy's aims.
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