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Chase Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 167 Cape May NJ Gender:	Sloppy play in gear shifter 03/22/15 at 14:26:18 So I noticed today that there is some sloppy loose play if I shift all the way down to first there is movement down past first. I know that doesnt sound right but should I look for something bent? loose? there wasnt any play before... dont know what happened
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Sloppy play in gear shifter Reply #1 - 03/22/15 at 14:36:45 Have you gotten down and visually inspected or is this" observation " just the power of the toe? Have a look at the rod, is it bent?
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Chase Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 167 Cape May NJ Gender:	Re: Sloppy play in gear shifter Reply #2 - 03/22/15 at 14:47:11 i can move it with my hand as well, doesnt appear bent or cracks in the shifter. I have not checked loose bolts yet guess I should
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Sloppy play in gear shifter Reply #3 - 03/22/15 at 15:18:53 The rod,, the rod, not the shifter lever. Look at the rod between the transmission and the shift lever. Watch what it does when you pull down on the shifter. You ever have trouble getting it in gear, sitting at a light, been sitting there, holding the clutch,waiting on the green light, in neutral?
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Re: Sloppy play in gear shifter
Reply #4 - 03/22/15 at 16:21:46

ok so the rod looks like it is bending in toward the engine in a slight bevel. To describe how far it is bent the rod is further in and under the bottom most stator cover screw. And yes there has been times trouble getting into first from neutral, or 2nd to neutral even.

So bend try to bend it back or buy new one? ROD
25525-21E50 8 bucks not too bad

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Sloppy play in gear shifter Reply #5 - 03/22/15 at 16:39:07 One end is left-handed, pay attention. That adjusts shifter height. If you have stomped on the shifter you are probably why it's bent. How you use the clutch is a big deal. I'll let someone else type all that.
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Chase Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 167 Cape May NJ Gender:	Re: Sloppy play in gear shifter Reply #6 - 03/22/15 at 16:56:02 yeah i stomped on it a couple of red lights
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Sloppy play in gear shifter Reply #7 - 03/22/15 at 17:28:27 How could I have known? You sat, in neutral, clutch pulled, right?
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Re: Sloppy play in gear shifter
Reply #8 - 03/22/15 at 17:36:50

The transmission gears have very square edged pieces that slide together to lock the bike bike in gear. When moving these pieces easily mesh together and it is easy to shift. When at a stop, if you hold the clutch lever in too long the input shaft stops turning, the output shaft is already stopped.....and if the square edged "dogs" are not in alignment....the transmission will not shift into gear. You can either let the clutch out and then pull it in and shift before the input shaft comes to a complete stop - or you can gently rock the bike forward or backward a bit and it will shift. Stomping is not necessary....and can bend the shaft. Automobile transmissions are different and have gear with synchonizers and tapered teeth.....motorcycles don't. You have to adapt your riding style and avoid stomping on the pedal.

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Ed L. Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline "We All go a Little Crazy Sometimes" Norman Bates Posts: 2808 Sunny Florida Gender:	Re: Sloppy play in gear shifter Reply #9 - 03/23/15 at 08:48:35 Working the clutch lever a few times after a long stop gets things lined up, it's a lot like double clutching an older manual tranny in a car. If you can't find them, grind them.
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Kris01 Serious Thumper Offline Eat, sleep, RIDE! Posts: 3767 Tennessee Gender:	Re: Sloppy play in gear shifter Reply #10 - 03/23/15 at 18:51:33 Are you guys talking about releasing the clutch lever in gear or out?
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Sloppy play in gear shifter Reply #11 - 03/23/15 at 19:05:07 In neutral. Just barely start letting it out and press on the shifter or let it out and pull it in again.. Really, of all the low buck bikes and cheap stuff out there, these things have good transmissions. I hope you guys aren't sitting between cars, it's safety meeting time.
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Kris01 Serious Thumper Offline Eat, sleep, RIDE! Posts: 3767 Tennessee Gender:	Re: Sloppy play in gear shifter Reply #12 - 03/23/15 at 19:11:20 I never shift out of gear at a light. I don't care to get rear ended trying to find 1st!
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Chase Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 167 Cape May NJ Gender:	Re: Sloppy play in gear shifter Reply #13 - 03/30/15 at 14:21:24 ok so the left turn tightning end is toward front or back of bike? new rod arrived today
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Sloppy play in gear shifter Reply #14 - 03/30/15 at 15:01:09 Chase wrote on 03/30/15 at 14:21:24: ok so the left turn tightning end is toward front or back of bike? new rod arrived today wouldn't matter to me. 1 way lengthens, the other shortens. just make sure the threads match.
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