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RatdogWillie Serious Thumper Offline Nostalgia isn't what it used to be... Posts: 854 Johnstown, PA. Gender:	Cop chases &tries 2sideswipe motorcycle,then flees 03/22/15 at 10:41:47 Cop chases and tries to sideswipe motorcycle, then turns off lights and tries to flee from person recording him http://xrepublic.tv/node/12638
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Re: Cop chases &tries 2sideswipe motorcycle,th
Reply #1 - 03/23/15 at 02:37:12

Doesn't look like he tried to "sideswipe" anybody to me. It looked like he tried to get the biker to stop by moving over toward the wall and blocking his route of escape....evidently the biker wasn't going to stop for the Blue Lights and Siren like he should have.

I have no respect for the reckless sport bike crowd and their traffic laws don't apply to me attitude.

And why would a fellow in a car blow his horn at an Officer with his Blue Lights and siren on....while is was in the process of trying to pull the motorcycle over?

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Reply #2 - 03/23/15 at 06:30:22

A little bit more...

http://lanesplitter.jalopnik.com/cop-hits-motorcycle-then-tries-to-flee-16928...

http://www.wtsp.com/story/news/local/2015/03/20/youtube-video-leads-to-fhp-re...

He apparently ran a toll road and didn't want to pay the toll.

Personally, I think the most "safe" thing the officer could have done would be to collect the information off the license plate and pursue him that way. The biker speeding off and weaving in and out of traffic to try to outrun the cop would endanger more innocent people.

Just let it go, don't try to take the guy down with your car. If he had been doing a drive by shooting or something, that would be different. But a $2 toll isn't worth risking a life. Criminal or not.

This is just my opinion.

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Reply #4 - 03/23/15 at 07:05:58

The officer could be one of many working a failure to yield call.
1) If we stop pursuing every criminal then we must stop pursuing any criminal. Ask any lawyer.
2) If the biker will break this law what others has she broken?
3) Is the bike stolen or the driver impaired?
4) Is the biker fleeing the scene of a crime?
These a just a few questions going through an officers mind.
While doing a night in dispatch I sent an officer to a simple loitering call. He apprehend a wanted child rapist who is now incarcerated. Loitering is a 25 dollar fine that a homeless guy will never pay. Why even go? Because once we start choosing which laws to enforce we will also choose which ones we punish.
So now it is permissible to commit a crime in order to record a perceived crime? Then I do not want to hear about being cut off by a distracted driver anymore.

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RatdogWillie Serious Thumper Offline Nostalgia isn't what it used to be... Posts: 854 Johnstown, PA. Gender:	Re: Cop chases &tries 2sideswipe motorcycle,th Reply #5 - 03/23/15 at 07:17:20 I am left wondering why the officer did not stop the driver that was following and filming, if he..... the officer, did nothing wrong.
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Reply #6 - 03/23/15 at 07:37:53

What makes you think the officer knew he was being recorded? Why don't ambulance drivers stop and get the plate number of the car not moving over? Priorities that is why. Why did the biker not stop when the officer pushed him out of his lane? Because he is an innocent victim? We will never know because your innocent biker fled the scene.

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Re: Cop chases &tries 2sideswipe motorcycle,then f
Reply #7 - 03/23/15 at 07:50:23

RatdogWillie wrote on 03/23/15 at 07:49:24:

atomikchicken wrote on 03/23/15 at 07:37:53:

What makes you think the officer knew he was being recorded? Why don't ambulance drivers stop and get the plate number of the car not moving over? Priorities that is why. Why did the biker not stop when the officer pushed him out of his lane? Because he is an innocent victim? We will never know because your innocent bike flexed the scene.

The officer may not have known that he was being recorded, but he would have known that he was being followed and followed while he was in pursuit with his emergency lights on, and maybe a siren.
Was the officer justified in the unsafe pushing the biker out of his lane? Is that acceptable to you for a traffic ticket offense? I can see doing that had the biker shot at someone, but not for avoiding a toll.

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Re: Cop chases &tries 2sideswipe motorcycle,then f
Reply #8 - 03/23/15 at 07:58:55

Looks to me like they were having the "pull it over" discussion and the biker squeaked through and ran off.

The officer then turned off his lights and attempted to follow but lost the biker, but got his tag number.

So the officer wasn't "running" from the car filming it.

Don't ya just love the "other side of the story" stuff on the net? when they hack the film to show one side of the event?

The biker ran a toll and was speeding, then slowed way below the speed limit endangering other drivers .... got caught .... just pull the hell over and take the ticket... responsibility, were the hell is it now days?

If ya ain't got the dime, or don't want to do time, then why do the crime?

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Reply #9 - 03/23/15 at 08:14:42

Ratdog.. wrote:

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Was the officer justified in the unsafe pushing the biker out of his lane? Is that acceptable to you for a traffic ticket offense

I think that's the important issue here. Are cops allowed to run folks off the road or into a concrete lane divider and possibly injure or even kill them for a traffic violation? It's hard for me to understand why anyone would think that's ok regardless of what the initial offense was. Based on what I saw in the video this particular cop is an a**hole.

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Reply #10 - 03/23/15 at 08:16:24

How do you know it was only a traffic offense?
The person filming this even offers a name for the officer. Sounds like this guy filming has an agenda.

If the rule of law is such a problem may I suggest a place such as Afghanistan. I lived and drive the roads for two deployments. No need to worry about petty traffic laws there. I can suggest several other location that would work from sunny locals around our globe.

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Reply #11 - 03/23/15 at 08:26:26

What you saw in the video is the problem. You make your judgement on a clip from the internet. One piece of evidence.
This is why I am now in the Army and not helping crime victims. Too many people want to defend the criminal.
So regardless of the offense. I would like to hear you tell that to the parents of a child that is dead after a hit and run. And hit and run is a minor traffic violation. Until you kill someone.

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Re: Cop chases &tries 2sideswipe motorcycle,then f
Reply #12 - 03/23/15 at 08:26:48

Watching the Vid, my take:

Ray Charles, could see, this biker, Was Pulled over.
And the cop wasn't 'fleeing'. He was LHAO, because he Had the Lic, and the kid now just got him/her in MORE, hot water than he was before by fleeing.
And I did not see the Cop trying to, 'down' this MC.
(Which would have been so easy to do)
Only to 'cut it off', It was the MC, who probably scraped paint on the Cop car and barrier, to get away.

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" ... responsibility, were the hell is it now days? ..."

Gee, maybe, someone told this person, he/she was special, and did not have to live by the laws, everyone else does!

Lotta respect, for, 'Good' Cops. Bad ones, (which are getting to be more and more), can Kiss my Azz.

I don't know what the cop said, but from the video, the Cop, didn't look like a, 'Bad' one. He, (after he certainly had the info), stopped chasing.
And I think, that MC rider, will have a surprise, waiting for him/her, at some point.

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Reply #13 - 03/23/15 at 08:31:05

If I had been the biker, I would have pulled over with the police lights came on.

If I had been the police officer, I would have not have tried to side swipe the biker. I would have radioed for assistance and hung back. I would have tried to read the license plate is safe to do so and met with the biker at his home address. I would have my dashcam video to back me up.

If I had been the camera operator, I would have filmed the unsafe actions of the police officer.

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Re: Cop chases &tries 2sideswipe motorcycle,then f
Reply #14 - 03/23/15 at 08:40:42

So how do you prove the rider was the owner of the motorcycle?

Why did he/she run the toll?
Why was he/she speeding?
Why was he/she acting erratic in traffic by slowing down below safe limits?
Did you read the other link provided?
How do you stop a motorcycle safely? They pit move 4 wheel vehicles... how do you suggest they do it on a motorcycle?
They can't do the strip stopper on a motorcycle either.
What the heck was the officer supposed to do? read the riders mind to find out why he/she was driving that way?
Officers cannot safely follow a motorcyclist in traffic and the riders know this, so pray tell.... what would you do that could PROVE the rider was the owner? so that justice could be served to the RIGHT person?

After this, i'll stop commenting so the post can be moved to the OTHER forum

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