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03/14/15 at 23:19:07
 
Just replaced an IRC 140/80-15 dated 4607, 27 lbs with wheel for a Kenda Challenger, 140/90-15 dated 4614, 33 lbs.
Diameter changed from 23 3/4" to 24 3/4".
Visually, the new tire is hugely bigger, and way heavier. Be interesting to feel the difference on the road. Cool. Also, the profile is more triangular.
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Reply #1 - 03/15/15 at 06:43:23
 
Does the 140/90 15 fit a stock bike, with no modifications? Seems to be some discussion whether or not these do fit.
I am needing a new rear tire, like the idea of a larger rear, i don't feel like having to modify anything "major" to get it to fit.
Changing fender bolts i don't consider major, but having to cut the swing arm is not something that i feel like doing. Smiley
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Reply #2 - 03/15/15 at 07:41:01
 
Mongo, a 140/90 will fit any stock Savage / S40, no mods needed beyond maybe button head fender bolts
the threads you are seeing where swingarm mods are necessary are people going larger than that, such as cafe builds that re replacing the 15 inch rear wheel with a 18' rear wheeel, not to mount a 140/90
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Reply #3 - 03/15/15 at 07:46:52
 
Thank you, that is what I needed to know.
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Reply #4 - 03/15/15 at 08:56:12
 
Be careful for the first 50 miles or so... until the mold release wears off the tire...
They can be pretty slicky...
I usually tie a bandana to the handlebars to remind me as I ride...Cool...
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Reply #5 - 03/15/15 at 08:56:51
 
would like to know how to read the date code?
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Reply #6 - 03/15/15 at 08:59:26
 
All tires sold in the USA have a DOT number on the side wall. At the end of the DOT number is a 4 digit date code with the first two digits indicating the week and the last two the year the tire was manufactured.
Tires built before the year 2000 used a 3 digit date code with the first two digits indicating the week and the last digit the year of manufacture.
Shown is the 27th week of 2003...(2703)...


PS.. added this info to the Tech Section... - Serow  Cool...
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Reply #7 - 03/15/15 at 11:35:13
 
Well I went the other way,
a 130/90/15  (MT-66).
No Modes at all were necessary.  
and the Spedo, reads a little closed to a GPS.

What I found on, in researching.
The Aspect, '90', part, no problem, in fact I think it was better.
It was the Width, '140' part, that may, or may not, need button head bolts on inside of fender.
Found out, even though a tire, 'says', 140, each brand/style, are Different.


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Reply #8 - 03/15/15 at 11:51:25
 
Not very happy with the extra 6 lbs of unsprung weight.  Too late now. The 130/90-15 may be the 'smart choice' in future. Will check it out.

here:  http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/tirecalc.php?tires=170-80r15-140-90r15

If I can switch my new tire onto my shadow vt600, I will go for the 130/90-15 on my S40

Mnsprg: any idea of weight of the 130? Cool
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Reply #9 - 03/15/15 at 13:59:51
 
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any idea of weight of the 130?

Don't have the fist clue.
Perhaps the Pirelli Web site, would list those specks.

Ah HA,  The Kirk web site says:        11.93 lbs

They were Pirelli, MT-66's, from Dennis Kirk.
https://www.denniskirk.com/pirelli/rear-mt66-route-130-90s-15-blackwall-tire....

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Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Reply #10 - 03/15/15 at 21:51:43
 
130/90 is plenty of tire for a savage, hell, my 600lb 95 horse XS 1100 has a 130/90, and that's stock
most all cruisers are over - tired in the rear, for the look
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Reply #11 - 03/15/15 at 21:52:31
 
Sorry, but I meant the weight of the tire and wheel together.
I've committed the cardinal sin of 'adding' to unsprung weight, rather than reducing it, and by 6 lbs!  I'll address this issue later after the bike is back together. darn! Angry
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Reply #12 - 03/15/15 at 21:56:29
 
you will adjust pretty quickly to it, I don't even notice the difference anymore
still, I will go down next time to the 130 / 90, for the better handling
I too am curious now re weight differential
what tire did you get?
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Reply #13 - 03/15/15 at 22:31:23
 
It's all about balance... (love that catch all phrase)...
Miles, vs time, vs weight...
It's all about choosing the right tire for you...

Just don't let your tires grow old from neglect... Cool....
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Reply #14 - 03/15/15 at 22:38:21
 
25% increase,, less actually. ,,,, strap ten pounds on the seat.
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