Noticed gas prices falling lately?   There are many causes, almost like a house of cards effect going on, but here is one discernable set of fingers that are still tugging at the futures market with traceable effects ....

http://www.e-catworld.com/2015/02/18/new-official-web-site-andrea-rossi-com-p...





This one is referred to as "the new plant" and yes it looks like a commercially refined process compared to what we were allowed to see of the first 3 plants ever constructed.

The burgeoning amount of stuff showing up associated with LENR is getting difficult to follow as more and more players pop out of the woodwork and more and more scientific / university / worldwide various governmental research groups kick up into the mix.

National patents have been granted in just about every nation EXCEPT the USA at this point in time.   Italy and Sweden have been back-dating their "origin" patents to predate all others (the patent war has begun in earnest).   All other players are just pressing patents on the commercialization aspects that they are actively pursuing.

Not much doubt that it is real any more .....

Also is becoming clear that this is a touchy process and requires some fairly serious computing power aimed at the knob variables to keep it within the control limits while working against a changing load.

It ls at the early pre Ford Model A level, awaiting for the necessary tech developments to make the Model A and Model T full commercial expansions possible.

Industrial Heat and its international lawyers are still pressing previous licensees and regional representatives to sell back their  original licenses since the tech has shifted and the old licenses do not apply to what will be licensed going out in the future.

The Nuclear Regulatory Commission is still getting false complaints from cranks to go check for a for an unlicensed nuclear facility located here and then there (they have tried several locations now).   I suspect competitors and internet cranks are spending a lot of time trying to figure out where Rossi and his 4 man crew are flying to all the time.

As I have said before, there is a strong element in LENR that wishes to stop referring to nuclear anything in the name as no one can prove a traditional nuclear activity is going on in this lattice assisted isotopic transformational stuff at this point in time.   A new name that more accurately states what is going on is being sought, one that will also keep Nuclear Regulatory Commission goons out of it.

The Regulatory Commission is taking a developing stance that if they cannot detect radiation then nothing that they need to be concerned with is going on at that particular facility.

Believe it or not, that is a rational stance for them to take as RADIATION is the danger from traditional nuclear and that is what all the tons of regulations and rules are all about ......

I can't help but feel that this conjecture is based upon hopeful thinking.
Gas is mainly consumed by cars, the conversion of cars to E-Cat is years away at best.  If testla up and cancels their proposed battery plant, then I'll be convinced that this is eminent.

So roughly 40% of price goes to building a new refinery?

cost usually comes from repaying loans and interest, not building a nest egg for the next one.

fn geniuses.

Oil pricing is simple....
Hurricane in the gulf--- prices go up
Cold front in California--- prices go up
Cold front in Kentucky----prices go up
Refinery somewhere blows up---- prices go up
A light bulb in a refinery somewhere burns out----prices go up

Prices just went up .40 cents in the last 2 weeks $2.35 at the local Exxon today.
(that's why I was wondering why your initial post said something to the effect of lower prices)

Here is the best/clearest source material on the state of the oil industry today -- note that natural gas is one of the forces bringing down the price of gasoline as natural gas is approaching half the cost per therm compared to oil/gasoline.

It isn't an accident my house heats with natural gas ......

http://www.blackrock.com/corporate/en-us/literature/whitepaper/us-shale-boom-...

I'd settle for making them stop thumping riders.

Just doing my own guessing here, but I suspect that LENR will help to quicken the pace of electrics (cars) versus actually being used in the car. The current electric infrastructure seems wrong for electric cars, but toss an independent LENR refuling station into the mix... now thats something different.

As for LENR and radiation ...pfffffffffft. Current thought is that every florescent bulb ever made was in fact a demonstration of the LENR principle. And the government has already FORCED CF bulbs on everyone as the RIGHT thing to do. What they gonna do? outlaw the only bulb allowed by LAW? Nope... LENR could be called Voodoo Death Juice and it still could not be shut down ( by anti-nuke).

http://www.e-catworld.com/2015/03/01/bob-greenyer-reports-on-visit-to-parkhom...

The American and Russian open source communities on LENR are actively cooperating together to open up the details of LENR functionality and to obliviate the chances of anyone getting a patent lock upon the idea.   Parkhomov's method is different from Rossi's and from the others, but he arrives at the same end A LOT CHEAPER THAN THE OTHER GUYS CAN DO.  

There is no fantastically expensive anything associated with a Parkhomov rig, just simple robust Russian type design and implementation.



"Dr. Alexander Parkhomov’s new reactor/heater set-up, simplifies reactor core manufacture as the heater is effectively a separate tube furnace. The K-Type thermocouple is attached to the outside of the simplified core . . . The core tube is 10mm diameter, with a wall thickness of 2.5mm, more than twice the wall thickness of our “Bang!” reactor."

With FOUR independent Open Source labs now working in parallel progress will go a lot quicker --- soon there will be dozens of labs working on it, actively leapfrogging off the progress made by the others.

Notice how Parkhomov took the MFM Foundation exterior heater and incorporated it -- them good ideas do spread around,  now don't they?   This is why Open Source moves so quickly to the best solution possible, then consistently REFINES it to make it better and cheaper.

If the US gov Nuclear Regulatory Agency does take the stance LENR isn't nuclear since nobody can prove any breakdown components, no radiation nor any fusion effects or after products -- so far just some isotopic shifting within the same element is all that can be actually reliably be proven to be going on -- then the barriers to rapid commercial deployment will be lowered significantly because it AIN'T NUCLEAR.

Parkhomov heater cores don't sound all threatening, now do they?   Sounds like it is about as dangerous as a quartz high efficiency light bulb in your bedside reading lamp or the florescent light bulb in the kitchen or your mercury vapor flood light on the porch, and it is about that complicated too.