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carb needle jet issue
02/13/15 at 11:36:48

I'v picked up a savage for my girlfriend who has always wanted to ride. Happy valentines day baby!

Thing is it needed a touch of work. Currently I have the carb off and stripped down but I can't get the needle jet out. So before I muck around with it and cause damage I thought I'd poll the experts. Bike in question is a 2001, carbs marked 24C4, 1 HOZ3.

Here's a pic of the stripped carb w/ needle jet showing. Thanks in advance

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28660 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: carb needle jet issue Reply #1 - 02/13/15 at 11:52:27 The main jet and washer holds it in place... once they are removed the needle jet comes out the top... after you remove the needle and slide... This link might help you... http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1191899985
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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18099 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: carb needle jet issue Reply #2 - 02/13/15 at 12:15:00 Is it just me....or does it look like the main jet is broken off in the needle jet? You should be seeing threads in the bottom of the needle jet...where the main jet screws in. (Make sure it has a washer under the main jet as that is what holds the needle jet in place).
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Re: carb needle jet issue
Reply #3 - 02/13/15 at 13:19:12

Dave wrote on 02/13/15 at 12:15:00:

Is it just me....or does it look like the main jet is broken off in the needle jet?

You should be seeing threads in the bottom of the needle jet...where the main jet screws in. (Make sure it has a washer under the main jet as that is what holds the needle jet in place).

Yeah it does and looks like glue keeping the needle jet in.

'bot, that pict is wrong, says to push where the float valve is.
Main jet is the tall 1, push from there.

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Reply #4 - 02/13/15 at 14:23:32

Thanks folks, I have been thinking the main jet is broken, I'll dig it up and get a pic posted. I've not done much with carbs before but it just doesn't look/feel right.

I've gone over the Clymers (thanks to the forum for a tip on that) and been over to the tech section to read up on "island style" cleaning and several other threads, that place is a treasure trove of info for sure. Unless other ideas come to light I'm probably gonna source a new needle and main jet, then tap out the current set up from above.

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nof1 YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 34	Re: carb needle jet issue Reply #5 - 02/13/15 at 14:28:26 To clarify the pic posted is the main jet & washer, which I think is sheared off, as Dave has noted. So I guess I'm looking for suggestions on clearing it from the housing.
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28660 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: carb needle jet issue Reply #6 - 02/13/15 at 14:51:13 Yup the screw threads are twisted off... The needle jet should still come out the top, I think... Once you get it out,.. removing the broken threads will be easier... PS... Versy,... that pic is from Savage Wahine's carb tutorial... Should we correct it?... ... Like this?...
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: carb needle jet issue Reply #7 - 02/13/15 at 15:05:38 Yep, looks good. Picture is now corrcted in SW's Tech post... Serow ...
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Re: carb needle jet issue
Reply #8 - 02/13/15 at 15:11:44

nof1 wrote on 02/13/15 at 14:28:26:

To clarify the pic posted is the main jet & washer, which I think is sheared off, as Dave has noted. So I guess I'm looking for suggestions on clearing it from the housing.

Hard to say what will penetrate whatever holding it in there.
You're gonna need some carb dip.
I'd rather try some pen oil 1st.
carb dip tends to be caustic and you may find nothing when you come back to it.
Although the yamalube stuff in good and won't damage the aluminum or rubber parts.

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Reply #9 - 02/13/15 at 15:24:26

Alrighty, good to confirm it is indeed sheared off. Next step will be freeing it, as nothing is moving at all. I've sprayed it heavily w carb cleaner, and no change. Maybe next ill try some liquid wrench, I tend to really like that stuff, and it's handy. Please weigh in with any suggestions and ill update with progress. Guess I've got to find some pen oil Grin

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28660 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: carb needle jet issue Reply #10 - 02/13/15 at 15:28:08 This is was the little bugger looks like: (also taken from SW's Tech post)...
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: carb needle jet issue Reply #11 - 02/13/15 at 15:51:45 nof1 wrote on 02/13/15 at 15:24:26: Maybe next ill try some liquid wrench If I had it... that's what I'd use. pb blaster atf and acetone whatever you got.
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nof1 YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 34	Re: carb needle jet issue Reply #12 - 02/13/15 at 16:00:11 Well 1/2 step forward. I removed the sheared portion of the main jet, using a drill bit tapped into the opening. Maybe I can find a match for the threads and improvise an extractor... probably not tonight though. For now it's soaking in liquid wrench. Thanks for the help so far.
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Re: carb needle jet issue
Reply #13 - 02/13/15 at 16:09:36

nof1 wrote on 02/13/15 at 16:00:11:

Maybe I can find a match for the threads and improvise an extractor... probably not tonight though. For now it's soaking in liquid wrench. Thanks for the help so far.

You do understand that it has to come out from the top,.. right?...
So, you don't need to pull it out,... you need to push it up...
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nof1 YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 34	Re: carb needle jet issue Reply #14 - 02/13/15 at 16:37:56 Thanks for the clarification. Prior posts did reference pushing it up, but the manual suggests it would fall out the bottom??. perhaps I can push it out w an awl or something. I may reinsert the sheared threads and try that.
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