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200,000 miles on my ride!
01/08/15 at 07:11:08

...No, not my two wheeler

My 2004 Tundra. Hoping it makes it another 200K. It's been a great truck that I hope to keep until the wheels fall off (from old age of course, not from a catastrophic accident...knock on wood).

Have a little knock in one of hydraulic lifters so I am finally going to switch over to synthetic oil (should switched long ago...just never had any issues to make me change plus I changed the dino about every 3-4K) and see if that clears it up (Tundra forums say it will). Otherwise she runs like new.

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Reply #1 - 01/08/15 at 07:32:38

currently driving my '02 odyssey with 232,xxx.

I almost killed it last fall when I screwed up a diy timing belt replacement on the cheap, but got 'er running again eventually - I still probably saved about $1.50 over the cost of having a professional do the job ( if you don't count about 3 weeks of all my spare time) Angry

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Pine Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1694 Mississippi, USA Gender:	Re: 200,000 miles on my ride! Reply #2 - 01/08/15 at 07:35:37 Impresive! I am worried for my little Tacoma. The drive train now "growls" at a mere 50 - 60 mph, and there seems to be a drag on the whole thing. I keep listening for what it could be: clutch wheel bearings axle bearings dragging brakes I do not think it is an engine issue, but it could be. Any insight appreciated!
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Reply #3 - 01/08/15 at 07:52:35

In my work I deal now and then with metallurgists. A few years ago I asked one of the ones I think knows the most about why cars last so long now, as compared to when he and I were teen drivers in the 1960s.
He told me that some of the advancement was due to advancements in metallurgy, but the most important factor was the huge advancement in modern lubricants. He and I remember when a car with over 70,000 miles was considered ready for the scrap pile.
Those were the days of pure mineral oil with virtually no additives.
I still have a couple of cans of DA Speedsport oil in my garage, as souvenirs of my sports car racing days in the mid 1960s. That's the oil we used back then.

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Reply #4 - 01/08/15 at 07:57:49

Pine wrote on 01/08/15 at 07:35:37:

Impresive!

I am worried for my little Tacoma. The drive train now "growls" at a mere 50 - 60 mph, and there seems to be a drag on the whole thing. I keep listening for what it could be:
clutch
wheel bearings
axle bearings
dragging brakes

I do not think it is an engine issue, but it could be. Any insight appreciated!

I had a similar issue on mine years ago when it was still under the 60K warranty. It sounded like a stick dragging under the truck and they finally diagnosed it as some known issue with the rear end and they replaced the rear differential for free. No issues ever since then.

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Reply #5 - 01/08/15 at 08:02:38

Jerry Eichenberger wrote on 01/08/15 at 07:52:35:

He told me that some of the advancement was due to advancements in metallurgy, but the most important factor was the huge advancement in modern lubricants. He and I remember when a car with over 70,000 miles was considered ready for the scrap pile.

I also believe that fuel injection has a lot to do with the longevity. The fuel mixture is controlled precisely and we no longer have to use a manual choke to get the engine started and warmed up....and the overly rich mixture no longer is washing the oil off the cylinder walls.

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Reply #6 - 01/08/15 at 11:22:40

Jerry Eichenberger wrote on 01/08/15 at 07:52:35:

In my work I deal now and then with metallurgists. A few years ago I asked one of the ones I think knows the most about why cars last so long now, as compared to when he and I were teen drivers in the 1960s.
He told me that some of the advancement was due to advancements in metallurgy, but the most important factor was the huge advancement in modern lubricants. He and I remember when a car with over 70,000 miles was considered ready for the scrap pile.
Those were the days of pure mineral oil with virtually no additives.
I still have a couple of cans of DA Speedsport oil in my garage, as souvenirs of my sports car racing days in the mid 1960s. That's the oil we used back then.

I have heard this as well.. and mostly agree. But having worked on my '65 Tbird for a decade.. I think it cant be overlooked that modern car just don't leak like the old Detroit iron did/does. It wasn't until I pulled the ole 390FE out and used silicon on all gasket surfaces that I could finally get the thing to stop leaking. The new cars are just liquid tight, and keeping all the fluids inside means you HAVE fluids. better gaskets, better design of gasket surfaces, sealants, better oils, engine designs with tighter specs (less vibration) ... most common engines these days would be considered "blue printed" in the 60's. It all adds up to longer lasting engine.

Now if they would build a tranny like the old C4/C6 that would last as long as the engine.. I could buy a Ford again.

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Reply #8 - 01/08/15 at 16:10:33

Nice one man

. Great to see a vehicle being used long term. I have an old 1992 Holden Commodore with the 3.8l Buick V6 and 4 speed Auto. That's done 280,000 miles on one engine that's never been opened up. Just servicing and replacing wear and tear items. The alternator wears out every 80,000 miles or so, spark plugs don't last long and the bottom end rumbles a bit when started from cold but otherwise is great. Compressions are still within factory specs. I did kill one auto tranny by towing my ski boat in top gear not 3rd, replaced it with a SH one from the wreckers and it's been good for years.
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Reply #11 - 01/15/15 at 09:29:16

So I changed my oil...from dino to V synthetic blend high mileage 5w30. Some of it may be in my head, but I swear it seems to run a little smoother (it wasn't running 'rough' before). It seems to crank with less effort, meaning that where it used to chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, CRANK it now just chug, chug, CRANKs. I also removed and checked/cleaned the plugs (they all looked good) so that may have had a slight impact.?

So...maybe there is something to using 'high mileage' oil in a high mileage truck.

Who woulda thunk? Undecided

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Reply #12 - 01/15/15 at 10:52:46

I run 15w-40 in my ford....

I was running 30w in the winter... but we rarely see a weeks worth of below freezing, although it has happened.

Quieted it right down... you can really tell a difference.... LOL, you would swear the truck is thanking you with the quieting down of the engine.

Although you get to hear more body rattles and bangs when you aren't listening to the engine any longer. Grin

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Reply #13 - 01/15/15 at 11:01:22

stewmills wrote on 01/15/15 at 09:29:16:

So I changed my oil...from dino to V synthetic blend high mileage 5w30. Some of it may be in my head, but I swear it seems to run a little smoother (it wasn't running 'rough' before). It seems to crank with less effort, meaning that where it used to chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, CRANK it now just chug, chug, CRANKs.

You are going to confuse a lot of mechanics with that kind of talk.

When the starter is engaged......the engine is "turning over".....or "cranking". (The engine is not yet running). This choice of words comes form the days that engines used to be started by hand and using the hand "crank" to turn the engine "over" so that it could be started.

When the engine comes to life....the engine has "started" and is "running".....(not cranking).

I have been fooled by this before, when my wife told me her car would not "turn over". I went out and got my wrenches to see what could have locked up the engine, and when I tried to turn the engine over it rotated fine. Then when I tried the key the starter turned the engine over....but it would not fire ("No Joy".....for our members in the UK). It turns out my wife uses "won't turn over" to explain that it won't start and run.

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Reply #14 - 01/15/15 at 11:26:31

Dave wrote on 01/15/15 at 11:01:22:

You are going to confuse a lot of mechanics with that kind of talk.

For clarification so I don't keep anyone up at night, it always turned over fine and smooth, though it seems that the starter has to 'turn over' the engine less revolutions before the engine starts 'running' on its own accord. Wink

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