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Steering Stem removal question
01/05/15 at 21:31:00

Hello I have posted 2 photos the first being the stock triple tree, and I can see clearly that the steering stem will press out. The second photo is the replacement triple tree but it looks like the steering stem has been welded in. I'm guessing I can remove the weld to uncover a steering stem similar to the first photo, allowing me to press it out?
I wanted to get advice on this before I proceed.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Steering Stem removal question Reply #1 - 01/05/15 at 22:01:09 I would give some real thought to replacing the replacement.
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paulmarshall Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1268 Carterton,New Zealand Gender:	Re: Steering Stem removal question Reply #2 - 01/05/15 at 22:04:25 Thanks for that but I am really looking for advice for removing the steering stem.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Steering Stem removal question Reply #3 - 01/05/15 at 22:12:22 Uh huhh,,, and,as you noted, that dude's cleanly,neatly and THOROUGHLY well did inthar...
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paulmarshall Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1268 Carterton,New Zealand Gender:	Re: Steering Stem removal question Reply #4 - 01/05/15 at 22:14:30 ??? Sorry justin you have lost me mate.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Steering Stem removal question Reply #5 - 01/05/15 at 22:20:47 Sorry,mate, I am in Texas... welded,, well did... inthar, in there,, Yeah, I do kinda talk like that when I'm kidding around..
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Steering Stem removal question Reply #6 - 01/05/15 at 22:25:09 paulmarshall wrote on 01/05/15 at 22:04:25: Thanks for that but I am really looking for advice for removing the steering stem. You already know what needs to be done. Grind off the weld and press out the stem. The question will be is that all you have to do. might be easier to machine the stem to match the savage.
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Re: Steering Stem removal question
Reply #7 - 01/05/15 at 22:33:16

Ah I gotcha Wink

I am thinking that if I use a flap disc to remove the weld I should press it out. I am assuming our stock stem has a lip and a retaining ring holding it in place. Which makes me wonder why the Kawasaki KZ1000p stem is welded.Does it have a retaining ring as well as being welded? I can easily re-weld it back in place.
Its the same vintage as my Savage, 1988. So I would have thought the technology would be similar.

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Re: Steering Stem removal question
Reply #8 - 01/05/15 at 22:37:28

verslagen1 wrote on 01/05/15 at 22:25:09:

paulmarshall wrote on 01/05/15 at 22:04:25:

Thanks for that but I am really looking for advice for removing the steering stem.

You already know what needs to be done.
Grind off the weld and press out the stem.
The question will be is that all you have to do.
might be easier to machine the stem to match the savage.

I wasn't 100% sure and didn't want to do something that couldn't be undone.
Yes I plan to reshape and re size the Kawasaki stem to match the Suzuki stem.
Thanks everyone.

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Steering Stem removal question Reply #9 - 01/05/15 at 23:38:14 I did something similar, but instead of taking it apart, I left the tree on. add a plate to whatever available and add weight to balance the tree. If you have a big enough lathe, bolt it to the head plate. I did it on a 7 HF lathe, hung the tree off the end of the lathe... lot of fun.
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Re: Steering Stem removal question
Reply #10 - 01/05/15 at 23:51:46

verslagen1 wrote on 01/05/15 at 23:38:14:

I did something similar, but instead of taking it apart, I left the tree on.
add a plate to whatever available and add weight to balance the tree.
If you have a big enough lathe, bolt it to the head plate.
I did it on a 7 HF lathe, hung the tree off the end of the lathe... lot of fun.

I don't want to remove it if I can help it. I need to put it in a lathe to shorten the stem. wasn't sure how to mount it in the lathe with the bottom triple still on. I'm not skilled enough so my friend who is skilled is going to do it. He hasn't seen it yet and I assumed I needed just the stem to fit in the jaws of the lathe. Could it be mounted with the bottom triple attached?

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Re: Steering Stem removal question
Reply #11 - 01/06/15 at 03:15:37

Weld beads penetrate - so I would guess a flap wheel is going to have a tough time with this job. If you remove the weld bead....there is still going to be a weld 1/8" or so down where the two parts are welded together.....and I suppose a enough grinding would eventually remove enough material to remove the welded portion.

This job is best tackled on a lathe. If the lathe is too small to accept the whole bottom yoke and stem....then cut the yoke apart and just leave the center part with the stem, and then put it in the lathe.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Steering Stem removal question Reply #12 - 01/06/15 at 06:24:19 Besides,I've priced flapper wheels and I know how long they last,, that won't be Nearly cost effective,AND you can't focus it. The bottom of that thing would be a mess. A milling tool in a drill press or someone who knows what they are doing with a lathe Orrrr the old replace the replacement trick..
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paulmarshall Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1268 Carterton,New Zealand Gender:	Re: Steering Stem removal question Reply #13 - 01/06/15 at 11:32:55 I found this which might be a option if I cant mount the bottom triple into the lathe. Using a lathe to remove the weld. Taking into account what you said Dave about the weld penetrating deep. http://www.xs650.com/forum/showthread.php?t=688
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Re: Steering Stem removal question
Reply #14 - 01/06/15 at 12:13:30

If you can do this...

a four jaw chuck will allow you to mount the tree to the lathe.

Or a faceplate...

That and a live center on the tail stock and you've got it made.
Turn down the spindle for the bearings 1st.
Then cut more threads as necessary.
Check it all out on the frame for fit and function.
When happy, cut the surplus spindle off.

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