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WOOT Prez Obama does something RIGHT!
11/10/14 at 08:31:33

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/obama-comes-out-strong-for-net-neutrality-says-fcc...

Will it make a difference? I don't know... why did ti take so long... prolly politics as usual. he will be a lame duck soon, so time to get on board the PUBLIC.

Now its time to see how much money Comcast will spend to undo this. Don't cry for them though... they can raise the rates to compensate... and have already.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: WOOT Prez Obama does something RIGHT! Reply #1 - 11/10/14 at 14:59:07 If you seriously believe that what just happened is gonna be beneficial to the people, youre not looking at it right.. Youre looking at Obamacare for the net,, This is gonna screw us,,
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Reply #2 - 11/10/14 at 15:28:46

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/10/14 at 14:59:07:

Youre looking at Obamacare for the net,, This is gonna screw us,,

"Net Neutrality is Obamacare for the Internet; the Internet should not operate at the speed of government.

“[Net neutrality] puts the government in charge of determining Internet pricing, terms of service, and what types of products and services can be delivered, leading to fewer choices, fewer opportunities, and higher prices for consumers,” Senator Ted Cruz said.

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I don't make the rules, I just know what they are.....

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LostArtist Ex Member	Re: WOOT Prez Obama does something RIGHT! Reply #3 - 11/10/14 at 15:49:18 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/10/14 at 14:59:07: If you seriously believe that what just happened is gonna be beneficial to the people, youre not looking at it right.. Youre looking at Obamacare for the net,, This is gonna screw us,, so, you'd rather have the corporations screw us instead of the government?
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Reply #4 - 11/10/14 at 16:44:23

Ayyyup.. Fo Sho,, You get the goobs in it and youre GONNA get screwed to a wall.. Can you name the last time they did something that went in our favor? I can,, They broke up A.T & T. And that was a Looong time ago..

This is gonna have people running at dial up speeds for High Speed costs of today,, Guaranteed, this is a step Bakkerds for the People,,

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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 12915 Gender:	Re: WOOT Prez Obama does something RIGHT! Reply #5 - 11/11/14 at 05:31:20 I don't see where there's an issue that even requires a law to be considered in the first place. What's the problem?
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Paraquat Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2206	Re: WOOT Prez Obama does something RIGHT! Reply #6 - 11/11/14 at 06:19:52 The problem is that everyone on the internet is equal. You can buy a candle from Fred's Candles.com or you can buy one from a major manufacturer. The major manufacturer isn't making money, but since money is the equivalent of free speech, the majority makes the rules. --Steve
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Reply #7 - 11/11/14 at 07:24:24

WebsterMark wrote on 11/11/14 at 05:31:20:

I don't see where there's an issue that even requires a law to be considered in the first place. What's the problem?

if the ISPs weren't almost monopolies in this nation there wouldn't be much of a problem, but they are, so this is really more of an anti-trust(not sure if I'm using that correctly here) issue than anything else, it's the government regulating monopolies that the government help to make in the first place

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LostArtist Ex Member	Re: WOOT Prez Obama does something RIGHT! Reply #8 - 11/11/14 at 07:59:40 here's the best explanation I've seen of this issue. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAxMyTwmu_M
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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 12915 Gender:	Re: WOOT Prez Obama does something RIGHT! Reply #9 - 11/11/14 at 08:33:01 As soon as the government gets involved, they will turn into monopolies. I don't see ISP's as being monopolies currently. If the issue really involves the question of whether or not Netflix or Amazon or YouTube for example can pay more to run faster, then I really don't have a problem with that.
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Paraquat Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2206	Re: WOOT Prez Obama does something RIGHT! Reply #10 - 11/11/14 at 09:18:40 The problem is Netflix costs 7 dollars. Comcast's basic package costs me 43 dollars a month. 65 if I bundle with internet. So 43+7 = 50 Comcast is upset they only get 43 when they could be getting 65. Although, half of something is more than all of nothing so they want a cut from Netflix. --Steve
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Reply #11 - 11/11/14 at 09:57:01

WebsterMark wrote on 11/11/14 at 08:33:01:

As soon as the government gets involved, they will turn into monopolies.
I don't see ISP's as being monopolies currently.

If the issue really involves the question of whether or not Netflix or Amazon or YouTube for example can pay more to run faster, then I really don't have a problem with that.

no, the issue really involves whether or not Netflix or Amazon or YouTube HAVE to pay more to RUN AT THE SAME SPEED THEY ARE NOW.

the reason the video used packages is because that's EXACTLY how the internet works, it delivers packets, and the ISPs are acting as monopolies in this situation exactly like the video describes

and yes the ISPs are monopolies now, I can't get ANYTHING but comcast for my internet, Alvin isn't a super small town, with 20,000 people in it, but there is NO AT&T, NO Verizon, NO CHOICE, I know of several people in Galveston with this same problem, they can get slow DSL or Comcast, not high speed DSL, and there are several MILLION people who can barely get internet at all because there is no competition to drive ISPs to serve underserved areas.

even Europe, as socialist as they are, has MORE competition for ISPs than we do, you don't see anything weird about that?

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Reply #12 - 11/11/14 at 10:37:34

Paraquat wrote on 11/11/14 at 09:18:40:

The problem is Netflix costs 7 dollars.
Comcast's basic package costs me 43 dollars a month. 65 if I bundle with internet.
So 43+7 = 50
Comcast is upset they only get 43 when they could be getting 65.
Although, half of something is more than all of nothing so they want a cut from Netflix.

--Steve

it's worse than that. Comcast offers video on demand, for a fee, usually 2-5 bucks a movie, they want you to buy that instead of NetFlix, which is $8 for unlimited streaming. and that's just the tip of the iceberg at the moment, oh, and it's not just Comcast, Verizon and AT&T also offer video on demand services.

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Reply #13 - 11/11/14 at 10:51:32

Wow Jog I am soooo dissappointed.. Ted put his foot in his mouth and your buying it???

Net Neutrality.. and obamacare?? really??? And Yes I have thought this WAAAAAYYYY through. Ted has been bought by Comcast.. or more likley just re-tweeted what Comcast told him to say.

There is NO WAY Comcast has NOW or ever had good intentions for the customer.. basically they cant.. but thats another issue.

But you know what... I wanna hear how Ted dumbbutt Cruz has this right .. from you.. You tell me how I need to have Comcast determine what sites I can get too and what sites I cant. I wanna hear it.

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Reply #14 - 11/11/14 at 11:01:06

pg wrote on 11/10/14 at 15:28:46:

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/10/14 at 14:59:07:

Youre looking at Obamacare for the net,, This is gonna screw us,,

"Net Neutrality is Obamacare for the Internet; the Internet should not operate at the speed of government.

“[Net neutrality] puts the government in charge of determining Internet pricing, terms of service, and what types of products and services can be delivered, leading to fewer choices, fewer opportunities, and higher prices for consumers,” Senator Ted Cruz said.

Ted is a politician and just repeated every line Comcast could come with. AND its all BS.... complete and UTTER BS.

Comcast/TimeWarner already operate as a Monopoly... but with full retail pricing. That one fact blows all the above away.

Furthermore... thats taking one small and extremist prediction of the future.

Phone companies have a monopoly.. do they tell you who you can call? or when?

Comcast has owned DC for while and has WRITTEN all the rules for the FCC with regards to cable... I have been to site several times, and read through all the crap out there. What we have here is Comcast thought they could bluster all of DC and the WH to get even MORE control and more money, and the president decided to beat them up a little. Now Comcast has to back pedal and fearmonger.

Prices?? are you kidding??? we PAY THE MOST IN THE WORLD and dont rate in the top 10 for speed. NO thats just an outright fearmongering LIE.

I wanna punch Ted in the mouth.

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