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Fell over, now she won't start. Buzzing?
11/02/14 at 16:33:36

So we had some rain, snow and high winds today and I'm guessing the wind caught the cover and she fell over. Luckily the foot peg caught the curb and she rolled right up on to the sidewalk. No visible damage other than a rear turn signal housing but now she won't start.

Lights work, gas in the tank... starter tries but it ends with a BZZZT underneath somewhere. Other folks have suggested either a weak battery or flooded engine.

Any ideas? It's been cold and wet all weekend and the bike was on her side for at least a couple of hours, if that helps. Never had issues before.

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ahusain Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 53 Massachusetts	Re: Fell over, now she won't start. Buzzing? Reply #1 - 11/02/14 at 16:43:54
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Todd James Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 238 Mansfield, Ohio Gender:	Re: Fell over, now she won't start. Buzzing? Reply #2 - 11/02/14 at 17:03:55 The battery may have spilled acid. If so, the voltage may be to low to spin the starter. Check the battery box. If you find spilled acid then flush the whole area with plenty of water and baking soda. ... and replace the battery.
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Jeff71 Senior Member Offline I'm a bike noob!!!!! Posts: 378 South of Chicago, the suburbs Gender:	Re: Fell over, now she won't start. Buzzing? Reply #3 - 11/02/14 at 17:12:36 Is it just me or is your rear tire bald? As for the starting, I'm thinking the battery issue as well. Jeff
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Yoshi Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 874 LongIsland, N.Y. Gender:	Re: Fell over, now she won't start. Buzzing? Reply #4 - 11/02/14 at 17:16:51 Sounds like a battery to me too. Looks like you didnt lock your handlebars? You should atleast turn the bars to the left when parking, it keeps your bike on the kickstand better.
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ahusain Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 53 Massachusetts	Re: Fell over, now she won't start. Buzzing? Reply #5 - 11/02/14 at 17:27:50 Jeff71 wrote on 11/02/14 at 17:12:36: Is it just me or is your rear tire bald? As for the starting, I'm thinking the battery issue as well. Jeff Plenty of life in the tires still -- Just the pic....
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Reply #6 - 11/02/14 at 17:32:28

Yoshi wrote on 11/02/14 at 17:16:51:

Sounds like a battery to me too.

Looks like you didnt lock your handlebars? You should atleast turn the bars to the left when parking, it keeps your bike on the kickstand better.

Yeah I do turn the bars left , but I don't usually lock them. This isn't a rough area and I figured the chain & Ulock are enough of a visual deterrent but maybe I should start locking the handlebars too.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Fell over, now she won't start. Buzzing? Reply #7 - 11/02/14 at 18:40:23 Covers catch a lot of wind..
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ahusain Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 53 Massachusetts	Re: Fell over, now she won't start. Buzzing? Reply #8 - 11/04/14 at 18:53:48 OK, I've pulled it and checked - battery seems ok .... Next steps any one would suggest? Starter tries and ends with a bzzt bzzt. Sorry for lack of more technical terms
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Reply #9 - 11/04/14 at 19:51:10

Have you had the battery load tested. Could be a plate shorted or something inside the battery if the levels are OK in all the cells. The battery is really the only thing in the starting system that cares which way it is oriented. Too long on its side could have caused some damage to it.

Might be a ground issue. Check the connection at the block just behind the clutch arm for tightness and good contact.

Have you tried jumping it from a car battery? Car not running, of course.

Dunno which way to go. It sounds like a power issue to me. Battery would be my first suspect. Then connections.

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Reply #10 - 11/05/14 at 09:25:59

Steve H wrote on 11/04/14 at 19:51:10:

Have you had the battery load tested. Could be a plate shorted or something inside the battery if the levels are OK in all the cells. The battery is really the only thing in the starting system that cares which way it is oriented. Too long on its side could have caused some damage to it.

Might be a ground issue. Check the connection at the block just behind the clutch arm for tightness and good contact.

Have you tried jumping it from a car battery? Car not running, of course.

Dunno which way to go. It sounds like a power issue to me. Battery would be my first suspect. Then connections.

Hm I tested the battery with one of these cheapo HF testers... looks fine but maybe I should have charged it too. Have not tried jump from the car yet.

I did see this mystery cable (http://i.imgur.com/82xcXZc.jpg?1) last night -- is this a broken ground connection? I'm comparing it to this image from the Savage photo guide -- http://i.imgur.com/APccxBB.jpg?1 Unfortunately I don't remember exactly where it was now - I'm pretty sure it was right above the right side plate.

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Reply #12 - 11/05/14 at 09:45:39

Same sort of thing happened to me around August. I fell over coming back from a ride, next day the bike would not start. As I was loading it up to take it to my local shop, all the sudden I had power and it fired right up. I am thinking the fall jarred a wire loose somehow, and it was "righted" by gremlins. I took her to the shop, had them check the battery and it was fine. Hope it is as simple as that for you.

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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18098 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: Fell over, now she won't start. Buzzing? Reply #13 - 11/05/14 at 11:21:59 That weird wire looks like a fused link for a battery tender - or a wire to feed some accessory. It is not part of the stock wiring.
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Re: Fell over, now she won't start. Buzzing?
Reply #14 - 11/05/14 at 21:38:40

ahusain wrote on 11/02/14 at 17:32:28:

Yeah I do turn the bars left , but I don't usually lock them. This isn't a rough area and I figured the chain & Ulock are enough of a visual deterrent but maybe I should start locking the handlebars too.

A jar to the handlebar from the fall could have dislodged the connectors to your handlebar controls(Clutch switch, kill switch and start button). Take the tank off, and re-seat the block connectors coming from both (L/R) handlebar controls. They're towards the front on the frame.

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