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Re: 2006 S40 Headlight/Running Light/Horn Issue
Reply #15 - 10/04/14 at 15:15:41

[quote author=485F59555A4A380 link=1412136771/0#14 date=1412459593]Dave wrote on 10/04/14 at 04:56:11:

Keep in mind I had to twist the connector under the seat and hit the passing button to get power to the headlight.

I can’t say I have any idea what this means??

It means your passing light works.
try your horn. Grin

High beam and ground ok.

We don't have a wiring diagram for the 06, but I'm guessing you gotta relay for turning off the headlight while starting. no idea how it's wired, or where it's at.

you also got a problem with the signals, I betcha find out where those 2 circuits cross and you'll find your problem.

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pg Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 5273 In Transit	Re: 2006 S40 Headlight/Running Light/Horn Issue Reply #16 - 10/04/14 at 15:45:46 The 1986-2012 clymer I have says the wiring should be the same from 05 on. Yeah, the headlight cuts off when it starts as well. What might a relay look like? Thanks
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: 2006 S40 Headlight/Running Light/Horn Issue Reply #17 - 10/04/14 at 16:13:42 my guess it's this thing cause I never seen it before. http://www.ebay.com/itm/E-SUZUKI-SAVAGE-LS-650-2006-OEM-RELAY-SENSOR-STARTER-...
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Re: 2006 S40 Headlight/Running Light/Horn Issue
Reply #18 - 10/04/14 at 16:15:19

A relay is usually a small rectangular box with 4 or 6 wires going into the connector it plus into. If I had to look for it, I would start under the tank since it must interrupt the + going to the light and the wiring from the right side to activate the starter is under there too. No way to tell without a diagram if all the + going to the left is shared off of 1 wire. If so, it could be your culprit.

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pg Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 5273 In Transit	Re: 2006 S40 Headlight/Running Light/Horn Issue Reply #19 - 10/04/14 at 17:27:12 verslagen1 wrote on 10/04/14 at 16:13:42: my guess it's this thing cause I never seen it before. http://www.ebay.com/itm/E-SUZUKI-SAVAGE-LS-650-2006-OEM-RELAY-SENSOR-STARTER-... No kidding, you've never seen this before? Is this something they did for only the year 2006? It seems just a bit strange.
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Steve H Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1223 Spartanburg, SC Gender:	Re: 2006 S40 Headlight/Running Light/Horn Issue Reply #20 - 10/04/14 at 17:35:54 This purports to be a wiring diagram for the 2006 https://www.scribd.com/doc/160973538/2006-Suzuki-LS-650-P-Savage-Wiring-Diagram
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pg Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 5273 In Transit	Re: 2006 S40 Headlight/Running Light/Horn Issue Reply #21 - 10/04/14 at 17:46:35 Thanks Steve, I appreciate it. Verslagen, I know I have seen that thing before. It has a rubber housing that slips over a slot to hold it in place.
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Reply #22 - 10/06/14 at 03:10:23

Ok, I founds the sensor. Well, 4 wires go into it.

Does anyone know is this exclusive to the year 2006?

I'm going to order from the link Verslagen posted. Other than that does anyone have any thoughts? After that the only other option is to start cutting and splicing the wires on the connector under the right side of the tank. I don't think that is a prudent decision; although, I'm out of options.

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: 2006 S40 Headlight/Running Light/Horn Issue Reply #23 - 10/06/14 at 07:07:54 Search around, that was the 1st one I found, not the cheapest. But really the link was so you'd knew what it looked like. Now test it.
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Reply #24 - 10/06/14 at 18:11:14

verslagen1 wrote on 10/06/14 at 07:07:54:

Search around, that was the 1st one I found, not the cheapest.

But really the link was so you'd knew what it looked like.
Now test it.

It was $13, I can handle that. I tested it with the key turned on and the wires that I would think have power did. I suppose I should test it when the bike is actually trying to start because it is a relay that cuts that off. I will need an extra hand for that to hold the clutch, starter button, and multi-meter.

Am I missing anything? Thanks!

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Re: 2006 S40 Headlight/Running Light/Horn Issue
Reply #25 - 10/06/14 at 19:21:27

I looked at that wiring diagram and couldn't see a relay to cut out the headlight.

I would think the relay cuts the power to the headlight switch.
or it cuts the ground to the headlight.

I would check the headlight ground with an ohm meter.
Headlight switch gets tricky, according to that diagram, you can pick it up at the connector, yellow/white wire.

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pg Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 5273 In Transit	Re: 2006 S40 Headlight/Running Light/Horn Issue Reply #26 - 10/06/14 at 20:51:17 Ok, thanks Verslagen. I'll have time to look at everything later in the week. I appreciate you looking at the wiring diagram.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: 2006 S40 Headlight/Running Light/Horn Issue Reply #27 - 10/07/14 at 09:56:53 The 05 model was the first to come with a headlight "cut out" when the start button gets pushed, so, somewhere in there amongst all the goodies there is something that kills the current flow thru the lamp.. Ground denial is as effective as hot wire killing and often the preferred method..
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pg Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 5273 In Transit	Re: 2006 S40 Headlight/Running Light/Horn Issue Reply #28 - 10/07/14 at 15:04:46 Thanks JOG. I was curious if this was some kind of exclusive problem with a certain year. I'll have time in the near future to give it some attention.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: 2006 S40 Headlight/Running Light/Horn Issue Reply #29 - 10/07/14 at 15:59:27 I might consider unhooking the starter wire and click the start button a dozen times real quick,,
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