OK, sounds like Industrial Heat, LLC will need to do another test run or three based upon completely different sets of scientists.   It will have to be scientists that do not know Rossi.  Tests where Rossi will be hundreds of miles away and never gets any closer than that.   One where Rossi will not ever touch any of the components or the test rigs, or even breath the air in that same state, ever.    

NO ROSSI ..... none at all.

Rossi has apparently played too many head games with too many scientists in the past to EVER get any consideration from scientists in general ever again.  

Whatsoever.  

Rossi is the half painted monkey of scientists.

Or else the basic mindset that this stuff CANNOT be real is so ingrained in some scientist's minds that they CANNOT even CONSIDER any data that does not follow their preconceptions.  

Hidden wires, that must be the answer .....   

Or else mebbe the pathological personal hatred of Rossi runs just that deep.





I am reminded of an old printed National Geographic magazine and an article about howler monkeys in a zoo ......  animal behavior scientists painted one of the howler tribe half white and tossed it back in and the other howlers immediately ostracized it, threw dung at it, beat it, sodomized it then eventually killed it and ripped its body apart.

Scientists apparently sometimes behave a lot like howler monkeys .....



The Chinese will take what they now know from Brillouin and Industrial Heat LLC and start up their own program and it will go from concept to products VERY quickly and the resulting patents will all be owned by the State.    The Chinese won't care why it works, just that it does work.   Copy cat Rossi cores are being built as we speak.

Sweden will have their scientists making all sorts of E-Cats and Brillouins all over the place.  Sweden will replace their aged out coal plants by refurbishing the boilers and turbines that they already have with a new E-Cat or  Brillouin type steam source.  Sweden will honor Rossi's and Brillouin's patent rights.

America will believe when they have to.   But not right now.  Right now Industrial Heat, LLC needs to put out a little self-contained ceramic core E-Cat Lab Kit complete with exciter and lab instructions so high school physics teachers can all run the experiment as a required part of Physics Class teaching the proper debunking techniques for all of that funny half painted science stuff.    

"Find the hidden wire" will be  how it is described in the course syllabus.   You get an "A" if you can convincingly find the hidden wire that isn't really there without getting yourself in trouble legally or professionally.... You will have to postulate a conditional theory that requires there to be a hidden wire inside the ceramic body (which is why you can't point to it or connect to it).  

The A+ students will conditionally postulate that the alumina ceramic body itself is the hidden wire, conducting high frequency resonating current induced from the infrared heat sensing equipment (which did seem sorta kinda large and over-powered robust to you, right?).  

Failure to find the hidden wire means that YOU FAIL High School Physics-- no college for you, buddy boy.    Can't have any of them stupid young potential junk scientists getting into any real college or university, no sir.   Teach them to toe the line early, and also weed them out early if they won't play ball with the Establishment.

Then Psychology Class can discuss the "scientific denial issue" as a worldwide mental health issue, one that has been true over the ages.

History and Sociology Class can teach about the beginning and the end of "Oil Age" based upon the infamous Standard Oil up to Industrial Heat. LLC Story.   It was just a little one century blip in the ongoing Age of Steam after all, just a little 5 decade foot note.

And in Mexico, they will get a new Day of the Dead pinata, a scowling half painted Rossi head all stuffed with candy that the kiddies all beat with nail studded sticks until his oversized head pops open and showers goodies all over them.

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/191754-cold-fusion-reactor-verified-by-thi...

http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/10/13/brillouins-robert-godes-on-e-cat-report/

Brillouin’s Robert Godes on the E-Cat Report

Godes comes out in support of the results of the Rossi test, suggests some of the reactions that  have been puzzing people (the missing copper and reduction in lithium) might have been due to vaporization and escape of the metal vapor or else absorption of the vaporized metal into the somewhat porous alumina ceramic body.   Remember, at the point of release there is plenty of energy to vaporize the tiny bit that is reacting, even though the remainder of the powder granule does even get get melted.

Remember, that active charge weighed less than a cigarette and the alumina tube's mass was easily 500 times that large, with the "missing" elements only weighing in on the order of a hundredth part of a gram.   And ceramic is porous and liquids and gasses do get filtered commercially through ceramic filters all the time.

Godes is a class act compared to many in this fray and he seems to understand and articulate his thoughts better than most.   Of course he speaks English as his primary language ..... which many of the others do not.

Folks in the comments are wondering which will make it to a commercial product first, Godes or Rossi.   Godes will likely do larger coal plants before Rossi does but Rossi will make it into home heating and commercial heating long before Godes finishes his first steam plant.  

Rossi has already produced 3 steam plants two of which were purchased by military arms of various countries.  Rossi is now getting somewhat personally over-extended and says his resources will be dedicated to getting all 3 existing steam plants up and rolling, with all of them hitting COP of 6 or better continuously, and thusly eventually getting paid for honoring his contracts on the first 3 steam generators.   He has stopped production on any new 1 megawatt steam plant orders until this is accomplished -- read this as internal resources, running out of.

Rossi is still throwing out "commercializations" right and left now, one new commercialization with each new public demonstration.   He is proving out the commercialization clauses of the patent laws as quickly as he can and clarifying that he was there first.

Industrial Heat, LLC is hiring new technicians right now as more hands on deck are needed.  A team of new people will be formed over each commercialization shortly.   Rossi will pop between team to team as needed.

Godes will willingly share information that does not affect his coal plant & major new energy plant goals.    Rossi is currently hunkered down, he isn't saying much to anybody at this stage (that last set of pinata stick wounds on his noggin haven't healed up yet).

Godes also keeps bringing up the point that all of the new energy people are actually working on the same set of reactions now, just using very different production mechanisms and control systems.   Godes considers the basic nickel/copper transformation patent to be so diluted and diverse now that he spends no time trying to patent that any more, instead he patents his control system very carefully as that is currently patentable and is going to be worth more money to him in the long run.  

Rossi's nickel/copper transformation patent application clearly predates Godes and the Rossi patent is getting USPO continuances while Godes patent attempt was simply final format denied due to a prior patent application and no proof of commercialization or even of functionality in the eyes of the US Patent Office.

Godes can defend his rights to use the base reaction at the same level as any of the rest of the non Rossi guys, but if he can control his reaction better (and if his controls indeed do work "better" even with the other guy's reactions) then he has his lock screwed down tight on making the controls for this new energy source.

The person who can simplify and reduce the size of the control modules and give it really good "just verging on overheat" control is the one who will win in the end.    

Really, if you have 6 thermocouples per core (splitting it up into zones) and one output frequency generator per core that you are tuning the thing to keep the hottest thermocouple closely below a given set value.   The ends closest to the frequency generator get the hottest at first and use up their nickel first,  then the reaction moves on down the tube to the fresher nickel in the middle.

Rossi is getting experience juggling 150 of the big steam cores right now, and he does that by giving each core a dedicated controller.   He has "keeping it from melting the powder" down pat now, he is still having trouble keeping the COP up over six however as the reactors keep trying to jump up too high and his current controller system is running as an on-off control which cuts the overheating core off temporarily.   Rossi runs a "stutter reactor" system, in other words and his is spending too much time with it turned off.   It is on until it gets close to overheat then it turns off for a while while the reactor cools down a bit.

Godes big steam plant cores are gas lifted, and his controller can increase the gas flow to separate the grains further and thus variably moderate the temperature sensitivity.    The gas flow also constantly moves the powder around, keeping hot spots and burned out spots from developing.  It is a MUCH more complex system than Rossi's.   Godes has two input control systems, one for excite and one for gas flow.    the Godes system also has provision for replacing the nickel power on the fly, which means they never have to shut it down, ever.

Godes first plant refurb will be a huge project and will require hundreds of millions of dollars in initial investment.   He is waiting for the money to get started, so Rossi having some early success is helpful to him.

Godes first "commercial plant" will be a miniaturization of his big plant ideas and will be about the size of a short electric water heater.    But he hasn't built that yet either.   Godes has already run through 2 million in start up capital, wants 20 million more to go to the next step ....  and will need a lot more to continue his work to his first refurbed coal plant.

Rossi is making a lot more motion using a lot less money, but he is now running out of his key Rossi resource.   Industrial Heat, LLC is hiring people and forming teams to carry the work forward, one team for every major steam plant and one team for each additional commercialization that is opened up.   Rossi will no longer be a one man show.

If the Patent Office will go ahead and grant the Rossi nickel/copper patents, then major existing companies could be allowed to step in and pay a royalty to Industrial Heat, LLC to run with the idea inside their own infrastructure.    Carrier Group could build their own implementation of the home heating plant, as could Trane and Reem, etc. etc.   No one will do this until the patent issue is settled as they would be lawsuit food if they did.

This is how the real progress will be made, the commercial big boys getting involved.    

Please note that South Korean companies routinely ignore any US patents and go forward anyway, letting their legal departments stall and delay and in the end settle the resulting patent violation issues.   Samsung does this all the time nowadays as "time to market" is their primary driver.  China just takes the idea and permits no lawsuits if they have a conflicting patent (which they now do, btw).   Sweden just honors existing patents and pays the relatively small royalties.

The issue is now "best control", as the facts of the reaction, that it is real, is somewhat of a done deal now.

Rossi needs to show us a vertical core that has an electric vibrator at the bottom to remove the burned out powder to a sealed dump tube.  A sealed infeed tube to refill replacement powder at the top to balance out what is removed at the bottom completes the system.   He can't copy the Brillouin hydrogen gas float system but he can do a powder replacement mode inside his larger static core system that he has now using simple air or electric powder vibrators.

Until Rossi shows this, he becomes limited to replacing or recharging his larger cartridges one by one by one.   For his smaller plants this isn't a big deal, but for the LARGER power plants he will need to be able to run them all the time, 24 hours a day at full power.

http://pesn.com/2014/10/13/9602545_Leaked-Second-Paper_With_High-Magnificatio...



There are people who have been keeping records of Rossi's posts and they are slowly stringing it together.

Here is his nickel composition, where he gets it from and what he does to it to catalyze it (using iron).

http://pesn.com/2014/10/13/9602545_Leaked-Second-Paper_With_High-Magnificatio...

Mitsubishi applies for and is granted LENR patent in Japan

Toyota begins LENR implementation/experimentation work




Do you think it might be for real ???

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This is FN awesome and terrifying at the same time!

They can generate pure Ni in one reactor and burn it in another.
But they don't know what will react with what to make what yet.
Do you remember the fears regarding the 1st nuke bomb?
"what if it starts a chain reaction and blows up the world?"

All we need is for some rare unobtanium to drift into the reaction and cause a explosion.  one bit of stray star dust and we're history that no one will be left to record.

History of the very first 1 megawatt steam heat plant is sorta funny ....

Rossi built it for a company called Industrial Heat LLC.

They wouldn't pay him for it because it never made the 6 COP continuous power production goal (as measured simply in steam generated, no fancy metering was required).

But they were still interested, and offered him some money for his Intellectual Property.

They finally settled on 11 million dollars cash and a slice of the resulting Industrial Heat LLC, and Rossi would go to work for Industrial Heat full time.

The second plant went to a military who stuck it in a warehouse after the run off was over.   (it worked, and that piece of information was what they were after)

The third unit is the one they are busting arse to get COP on as that is a key thing to them now, making the higher levels of energy output (refining the controllers, etc).

Brillouin claims their rig can generate 100 COP, but they still haven't built their water heater sized prototype to prove that out yet.   They have been offered the 20 million they say they need, but it is conditional on seeing 100 COP ..... ain't happened yet but is possible.

Godes at Brillouin has announced a new type of Hot Tube reactor using titanium and tungsten powder -- hey Justin, guess what it makes when it get cranked up all the way .....  yup, gold.   And supposedly quite a lot of energy while doing it, too.

Godes isn't noted for his sense of humor, so I take it  --- factually.   But I grin while I do it.