http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/149090-nasas-cold-fusion-tech-could-put-a-...

http://pesn.com/2014/08/27/9602532_SHT--Andrea-Rossi_Drops_out_of_the_LENR-Race/

http://coldfusion3.com/blog/e-cat-owner%E2%80%99s-connections-to-genorth-caro...



"LENR is absolutely nothing like either fission or fusion. Where fission and fusion are underpinned by strong nuclear force, LENR harnesses power from weak nuclear force — but capturing this energy is difficult. So far, NASA’s best effort involves a nickel lattice and hydrogen ions. The hydrogen ions are sucked into the nickel lattice, and then the lattice is oscillated at a very high frequency (between 5 and 30 terahertz). This oscillation excites the nickel’s electrons, which are forced into the hydrogen ions (protons), forming slow-moving neutrons. The nickel immediately absorbs these neutrons, making it unstable. To regain its stability, the nickel strips a neutron of its electron so that it becomes a proton — a reaction that turns the nickel into copper and creates a lot of energy in the process.

According to NASA, 1% of the world’s nickel production could meet the world’s energy needs, at a quarter of the cost of coal. NASA also mentions, almost as an aside, that the lattice could be formed of carbon instead of nickel, with the nuclear reaction turning carbon into nitrogen. “You’re not sequestering carbon, you’re totally removing carbon from the system,” says Joseph Zawodny, a NASA scientist involved with the work on LENR."

This one strikes me as a better, "self cleaning" reaction material since the nitrogen produced is a gas which leaves the surface, exposing a brand new reaction ready surface.   The other one's nickel copper system is self-sealing over time whereas the carbon one is cheaper, more abundant and self cleaning.

"So why don’t we have LENR reactors yet? Just like fusion, it is proving hard to build a LENR system that produces more energy than the energy required to begin the reaction. In this case, NASA says that the 5-30THz frequency required to oscillate the nickel lattice is hard to efficiently produce. As we’ve reported over the last couple of years, though, strong advances are being made in the generation and control of terahertz radiation. Other labs outside of NASA are working on cold fusion and LENR, too: “Several labs have blown up studying LENR and windows have melted,” says NASA scientist Dennis Bushnell, proving that “when the conditions are ‘right’ prodigious amounts of energy can be produced and released.”

Read up on the three stories above and realize that the second story's reactor vessel and research was just purchased outright by a top secret classification GE subsidiary.

"The North Carolina company that purchased Andrea Rossi’s e-cat Low Energy Nuclear Reaction (LENR) technology Industrial Heat LLC could have some connections to General Electric (GE) and a North Carolina company called Power Generation Services, Inc. or PoGens."

Of course the very first thing they are going to do is remove the word Nuclear from the description, since nuclear in any form is "bad" in the public perception right now.   QUAR is the new name for what is going on in there, meaning QUAntum Reaction since a series of quantum changes take place, with no distinct splitting or direct fusion of one atom to another.   Literally, they vibrate the base material in a gas bath of hydrogen, base material sub atomic items change states, get excited, intermingle with the hydrogen, go to another state, drop another particle (a proton ie charge differential electricity)  and then it all calms down to a lower energy state -- with atoms of the base material quietly becoming another atom on the periodic table when the new rest state is achieved.   Heat energy and +DC+ electricity is released.

Two control inputs are are available to keep things in check, the amount of hydrogen available and the "exciter gun" that does the vibration enhancement.    Plus you could quench the whole thing in water as a dampener if you wanted to "put it out" in an emergency.

    Yup, we may live long enough to see some cheap clean energy become available.

Here is the good news -- they made enough output energy from these experiments to melt them or to explode a couple of them, but they made no killing radiation levels and the lab guys all survived to keep on trying.

Sounds like there is something there to pursue, anyway.

Hooo,Geeeze, cheap,safe energy,,,,can't let that cat outta the bag.

Guys, it ain't that hard to do.   Well, the tetrahertz generator technology is cutting edge enough but the reactor and the nickel beads and the hydrogen sure aren't anything but "state of the standard stainless steel plumbing".

There will be patent wars and competing camps and every first world military will have a crash program going on and the spies will be stealing each other's stuff right and left all along.

Industrial Heat, LLC and GE will have a few commercial power generating products coming out shortly as they make money by building stuff and selling it.

After all, the steam produced needs the GE turbines and generators to turn it into motion and from there to electricity, etc. etc. etc.

And yeah, it will kick over a whole new wave of industrialization and progress and a whole new infrastructure will be based upon it.

The old coal power plant infrastructure will eventually cash out since it can't compete (look at the energy produced gap between oil/coal and this stuff) and there will be a lot of petro companies trying to squelch this stuff and get in on the ground floors here and there, etc.

Tesla Auto is now quoted as working with the group, but hey it could be GM or Ford doing the car work just as easily.   Ford holds patents on steam cars from way way back in the day that they got when they bought out Stanley Steamer.



If I were a rag-head country that has been funding jihadism, I would very quickly stop all that stuff since my oil will be likely useful only as a lubricant going out into the future and I have now lost all my dollar power and "special protection" that governments were according me.

If they can get the carbon version to run more calmly, then they will really have something.   Carbon is CHEAP and very abundant.   Big big power generating plants may run carbon, and the smaller more mobile ship and train sized plants may run nickel.   Nickel can go smaller, for cars, home heating, etc. since nothing leaves the reactor core and, as we have seen, the core can be quite small and still work just fine.

Al Gore and his "carbon credits" scheme will hit the dirt too -- sorry Al, go invent the internet for us again.


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Justin,

Why the secrecy?   Suppose you pre-impregnate a considerable mass of nickel (or carbon) with hydrogen then give the whole impregnated mass a singe very very strong tetrahertz vibration energy burst?

Yup, we might jest want some controls over this technology and if it is really that simple to do it then maybe those tetrahertz generators should remain top secret "black boxes".

The world is not a friendly place right now .....    business reasons alone would require strong secrecy until all patents are filed and approved.

http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/09/25/1-mw-e-cat-plant-watch-thread-update-1-r...

First pilot plant is now admitted to be in existence -- it is a 1 megawatt plant and it sits a a customer's facility as some sort of commercial heating plant.

What is it?   An industrial heating plant most likely.   Non-military.   It is already built and it is running and it is undergoing debugging and tuning as we speak.

A submarine uses steam generating plants around the 50 and 100 megawatt size and aircraft carriers use still larger plants (and at least two of them for fueling & redundancy).   The Navy will wait for GE and Westinghouse to give them competitive quotes on developed products .... but trust the ship planners and designers to start incorporating liquid hydrogen storage tanks, etc into some blueprints under development ASAP.

Once again, all this secrecy stuff is a bit aggravating, but you can see now that the patent stuff has been handled that this will all move out from behind the curtain, to be revealed at a pace that the current property owners Industrial Heat, LLC  decides to reveal it.    They paid Rossi 11 million dollars for his first reactor and hired him to work for them under non-disclosure that binds all future work developing the idea to them, not Rossi.  

Rossi as the primary patent holder for his ideas and work prior to the sale will collect a royalty payment, I am sure.

Industrial Heat, LLC has large customers who will control what is known about their own new products that they are currently developing.   Expect patents out of these guys as well.

Trust GE to patent the hell out of electrical generating plants and ship and train plants, everywhere that Westinghouse or GE currently goes expect new patents to be released shortly as soon as "prove out" pilot units can be built by the current competitors in that industry.

Rossi as a person however has trouble keeping his fingers quiet, he posts stuff sporadically to massage his ego and to actively tease his critics as not being able to tell anybody anything is apparently more than he can stand.

Industrial Heat, LLC has put out a bunch of patents pending on what they have done in the short time they have owned the Rossi process.   HOWEVER, Rossi still owns the core general patent on the very base idea which has just moved forward again since he was just now permitted to show that hell yes, it really does work.

http://coldfusion3.com/blog/it%E2%80%99s-official-us-startup-admits-to-purcha...



.... now what is really whacked is all the stuff Rossi has leaked out that had gotten him hooted at by the scientific community, with "assembly lines being set up to make thousands of units" being the very last item they so strongly and publicly ridiculed him over --  joke is on them, it was all true.    

The core they tested might well be an early production process version of  "the standard commercial heating plant core" ....


This core doesn't look hand built or poorly finished, does it?   Roll crimping/welding the end caps isn't generally done apart from a production type process.

Scientists in general are a bunch of closed minded know-it-all assholes sometimes, you do realize this has been true historically speaking don't you?  

And the next joke is on them too, they now have to be able to state (with their superior intellects and all) what these Rossi quantum reactions ACTUALLY ARE DOING.... and Rossi isn't going to tell them what he thinks (or what his catalyst material is) since they were so durn nasty to him about the whole thing.   Once they can figure it out theoretically, expect the theory to result in some other material "pairs" to become available for use as well.

And them calling Rossi an "alchemist" was not a badge of shame, it isn't too far off of being correct once you consider the historical roots of the word -- Rossi IS a quantum alchemist and his  Quantum Alchemy Reactor might well wind up being somebody's new brand name.  

Accidents and somebody learning how to repeat that result and only then being able to prove how it works have been the real source of MANY scientific breakthroughs.

Think of the Amana Radar Range -- the very first microwave cooking device that hit the market.   It was really kinda bulky and overpowered and sorta clunky to use too.   It came about because somebody found a hot cooked pigeon on the lower edge of a radar dish ....  It was just a standard Raytheon radar emitter inside a metal box.

Refinements have happened with that too, no?   Much much smaller and more efficient now.

I for one don't care -- finally a source of cheap clean energy.    I likes that a lot ......

Go back up to the graph and do the math -- this energy source is >100 TIMES more economical and >100 TIMES more powerful/efficient than gasoline or natural gas or coal.   Right now it is limited to stationary uses, but this may change as the terahertz exciter system gets lighter and more refined.   Plus, as they learn how to ramp it up and down from low to  high back down to low, you may be able to start the core just once after installing a new core and just throttle it back down low and leave it idling between your intermittent full power uses.    

Just leave your car reactor idling at 300^oF all the time if the fuel is cheap enough.  Car will be stay defrosted and  at least partially warm in the winter time just waiting for you to get in it and go.   Fill your water tank up once a week and go ride jest as much as you want to .....

Choooo ...... Chooooo !!!!     chugachugachugachugachugachugachugachugachugachugachugachuga

        or since it is so durn cheap you could afford the 3x efficiency loss to do a little bitty quiet steam turbine            whirrrrrrr ......

Everybody gets an air horn / steam whistle for a car horn !!!     WHOOOONK !!!!

And you thought that Steam Punk stuff was jest bad science fiction ......

Now, is it all a fraud?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Catalyzer  gives you a 15 year perspective on Rossi's secrecy and how it affected what his peers thought of his progress over the years.

They suspect him of heating the rig though the ground wire, etc.   He is thought of as a charlatan not a scientist.

NASA however, believes it.

The Facts will roll on out now, so we shall all see what is what.   Right now this latest test is lambasted for bad math as it is only 50% as wonderful as originally stated.

I would think that you would be able to start out at easy parking lot speeds almost at once using a flash boiler tube running down the center of the tube mass (right next to the center tube).

Full power would take a minute or so .....



Tesla's approach is to run off battery power at all times with an on-board steam engine generator that runs continuously and acts as a community network power generation station when the car is parked and plugged in to wall power.  Your utility would credit your bill for the power you generated.

This way the constant power output on the QAR system is never wasted even when running at minimum (just staying lit).   The system can be very specifically tuned (like those on-board gas generators in an RV).

Since the generator runs at a fixed speed it can be tuned for maximum efficiency.  Same sort of plant could power your house.

Scientists are now complaining that QAR does not generate the amount of gamma radiation that they would expect.  

Me, I think that nobody really knows all the things that are going on inside those little tubes stacked inside that SS case.   But I think they will eventually figure it out.

Everyone knows how unstable scientists are..I wouldn't be at all surprised if the guys who understand the what and how of this exciting new stuff just up and kill themselves. I don't recommend air travel for them and I SURE would not want to be a passenger on the plane with him/them..