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Re: Nickel to copper transmutation energy
Reply #120 - 11/14/14 at 06:53:28
 

http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/11/14/bill-gates-addressed-at-enea-by-lenr-res...

Bill Gates Addressed at ENEA in Italy by LENR Research Coordinator: What Does He Know About Cold Fusion?  

Answer -- more than you would think.



Gates, who was accompanied by Mr Federico Head of ENEA, is interested in the activities in the field of research “frontier”. The visit lasted for a few hours and gave researchers the opportunity to explain in detail the advanced research activities of the Agency.

Gates has been travelling, looking for new tech that makes power without polluting.   He stopped by the source university that all Rossi's buds hang out at to look at the people and the processes.

Same trip had him touring 3 different types of new, greener, cleaner, safer Thorium fission reactor prototypes.


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Reply #121 - 11/16/14 at 11:06:56
 

http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/11/16/report-gates-foundation-close-to-a-1-bil...

Report: Gates Foundation Close to a $1 Billion Agreement to Fund ENEA for Fusion Research

An article published on the Italian news site L’Arena reports that Microsoft founder Bill Gates is close to an agreement to provide funding to the Italian technology research agency ENEA following his visit to ENEA’s research laboratories in Frascati, Italy last week.

Gates drops about a billion worth of various grants each year trying to promote technologies that will directly help the poor in the third world.

Reports have it that he can see a portable LENR desalinization plant and a portable boiled water "sterilization / purification" plant combined with some power generation and he would fund the money necessary for this to come about.

Needless to say, with Gates backing LENR it becomes "acceptable science" and the ones who were howling and throwing all that dung last month will be lined up with their hands out for some grant money next month.

Scientists ....


Why go to the Italians?   Rossi was not the only Italian involved in the early work and by going to the "old home turf" Gates gets the historical knowledge base and folks who know the basics and can do it slightly differently enough so to as to get a separate new Gates backed LENR patent basis.

Or, if Gates is actually past being greedy (and at 81 billion in net worth he struggles each year to give it away fast enough to keep it from mounting up bigger and bigger and bigger year on year) he might actually make his Gates fund LENR version to be an open source world-wide benefit project.

Gates will still ruthlessly drive the research to make progress rapidly and he will keep it on track and on focus as he is after all, still Bill Gates.  

This is a good thing as academics often futz around and waste years fiddle farting around.

Bill Gates is looking for a lasting personal legacy to be remembered by.    Something that will mark him down through the centuries as a benefactor to humanity.  The very nice very majestic Carnegie Free Libraries come to mind as an example of this drive to create a decent legacy to be remembered by.    

Carnegie wasn't beloved when he was alive, but over time Carnegie is thought of in the context of a humanitarian far more than he was ever thought of as a rapacious monopolistic railroad "robber baron" as he was when younger and world's biggest steel magnate as he so surely was when he was still middle aged. (he bought steel plants so he could get build priority on his railroad rails, then used railroad money to buy ALL the rest of the steel mills to become a near total monopoly).



..... and here is the complete video clip with Gate's "total attention fixating" device shown clearly at the very beginning of the clip  -- and it isn't a device in either of the Godes or Rossi general format either.  

Looks like a plasma torch of some sort .....

just click on it      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8Kk3xswRVk
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Reply #122 - 11/17/14 at 05:11:40
 
http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/11/17/indian-government-urged-to-revive-cold-f...

Indian Government Urged to Start Cold Fusion Research Program

'Mahadevan Srinivasan, who was involved in an earlier cold fusion program at the Bhabha Atomic Research Centre (BARC) in Mumbai said “We are making a frantic effort to revive cold fusion/LENR research in India . . . Former Atomic Energy Commission chairman Srikumar Banerjee is solidly backing me (in this effort).” He said he was trying to get the government under Prime Minister Modi to start a task force to investigate cold fusion.

Srinivasan cites work by Andrea Rossi that has shown that mass-production of suitcase-sized reactors is possible.

He states, “One such LENR generator located in each village and powering a local village-level micro-grid can work wonders . . . It is hoped that the new government will take cognition of this breakthrough development and take necessary steps to foster this new technology in India.”

Srinivasan said that he met with the Indian energy minister last week about the topic. He also referenced the fact that an LENR research center is being set up in Baoding, China.'


The energy release quoted on the last Rossi patent application was a COP of 11.

Brillouin is saying he is getting COP between 10 and 20 on his last tests.

No billion dollar pinch plasma hot fusion rig built so far has exceeded a COP of 5 and that lasted for a millisecond or two until the containment field failed and they lost the reaction completely.

Rossi's ideas are going to be lifted by every third world country in the world if Gates doesn't manage to give a Gates water purifier power generator version to them first .....

Hot fusion research billions spent past this point is sorta futile as the output simply isn't there as they cannot contain the hot fusion process.
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Reply #123 - 11/18/14 at 19:19:23
 

Follow up on the Gates LENR visit -- yes, he was there specifically to see LENR along with a full technical entourage which included big names in hot fusion and major scientific project management and some politicians and three of his financial wizards.

Gates is "considering" investing in Cold Fusion, but not through the Gates Foundation but through his investment managers.

He'd cruising to get in on the bottom floor of a new industry, in other words.   He was specifically looking at a brand new way of doing LENR that isn't Brillouin or Industrial Heat's patented methodologies.

The Gates Foundation will come in later, after the big new money from LENR rolls in ....
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Reply #124 - 11/19/14 at 19:38:19
 

http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/11/19/industrial-heat-buying-up-all-e-cat-lice...

Industrial Heat buying up all E-Cat licenses

The new owners of the Rossi IP,  IPH International BV,  are insisting that Industrial Heat exercise the buy back rights on all the licenses to all the earliest holders of licenses provided by Industrial Heat or by Leonardo Corp (which was Rossi's original corporation) or by Rossi himself personally prior to the creation of Leonardo Corp.

They are also buying back all the licenses issued to or by any of the joint cooperative ventures Rossi had entered into very earlier in his career before Leonardo Corp was ever formed.

Every last one of these folks was contacted and a good faith effort has been made to buy back the old out of date technology license that these folks were granted.

IPH International BV is insisting that Industrial Heat LLC clear the court of all possible confusions to the proper issuance of new IPH International BV international licenses for the current state of the art, much more advanced LENR processes that were developed inside the last calendar year.

It is unknown what enticements are being offered by Industrial Heat, other than the fact the IP that was licensed previously isn't nearly as good (COP of just a bit more than 1) compared to the current knowledge (COP of 11 and up) AND the fact that no rights to the current processes were ever entailed in those earlier licenses whatsoever.    I think the buy back is intended to bring this point home, in a strong fashion.

Having had Industrial Heat make a good faith offer to buy back the old inferior process licenses, now IPH International BV can issue a new license for the current improved product/process and then sue the snot out of anyone who does the new process without holding a new IPH International BV license to use it.  

This SPECIFICALLY includes the old Rossi personally issued licenses and for Rossi himself, should he leave Industrial Heat, LLC's employ.  

Rossi sold his IP -- it no longer belongs to him now at all.   Certainly any of the new stuff developed by Industrial Heat belongs to them alone and they intend to license it through IPH International BV exclusively.

Swedish and Dutch law is somewhat different than American law, so if this buyback seems strange to you then just write it off to Dutch "legal sensibilities".   They are tying down all the loose ends before getting down to business in a big international way.

The Cold Fusion LENR Crack Down, she begins ....

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Reply #125 - 11/20/14 at 01:12:08
 

http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/11/19/rossi-now-the-competition-is-very-serious/

Rossi: ‘Now the Competition is Very Serious’

"Buck wrote:

“Gulf News, the largest English language newspaper in the Gulf region (UAE, Dubai, Oman, Bahrain, Qatar, Kuwait, Yemen, and Saudi Arabia), with a daily circulation of about 110,000, has just reported that India is moving towards getting back into CF research. Your work, the China Nickel Energy connection in Baoding, and Bill Gates’ recent visit with Vittorio Violante were cited in a factual positive fashion.

To me, the tone takes on an alarmist quality as it presents CF phenomena as fact and CF technology as imminent.”
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Yeah, if I was a raghead I'd really be worried about being able to buy my next private jet .....

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Andrea Rossi responded:

“As I wrote on this blog one hour ago, now the competition is very serious. Thanks to the work of my Team, LENR, that 5 years ago were very “low”, not only in temperature, but also in global consideration, have gained momentum at high level. My Team merits recognition for this: our action and our fight have been the real game changer.”

In an earlier post today, Rossi was writing on the same theme:

“Gas fuel will substitute electric energy to activate the reactor and drive it; I cannot give more particulars until we will have a product ready for the market. We cannot feed more information to our competition, which now is very powerful. We need to reach extreme commercial competitivity before lacking more information. When we will have reached the necessary economy scale our prices will discourage any competition, but before that phase we must be aware of the fact that our Competitors are eating voraciously any single bit of information we are lacking.”


These quotes about gas and LENR fall in line with that plumbing that Bill Gates was shown in Italy, it seems that some form of gas heating and non-electric matrix agitation is now the cat's meow for steam generation units.   What Bill was holding was a little mixing chamber of some kind that looked like parts off a plasma torch.

THERE ARE RADICALLY DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO LENR showing up now, and some of the new ones are coming across as having relatively much higher COP values -- high enough now to drive a steam car or a small electric generating plant.

Governments and the rich dudes are strongly reacting to LENR now, they have been shown enough to know that it is both a real and imminent technology.

NEW LENR Breakthroughs are occurring ....  all of the old E-Cat licenses are being bought back now to cut down on the confusion factor separating the old E-Cat from the new stuff.

People should be more careful of what they show to Bill Gates, IP borrower extraordinary.   Just remember how both he and Jobs treated Bell Labs, Palto Alto labs and IBM and Apple with Bill Gates touring them and "borrowing" key IP from them and making it his by his free use of lawyers over decades of time.
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Reply #126 - 11/21/14 at 06:08:35
 

http://www.infinite-energy.com/iemagazine/issue119/norway.html

http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/11/21/michael-mckubre-and-others-invited-to-no...

Michael McKubre, Hanno Essén and Others Participate in Norway Seminar to Discuss Possible LENR Alternative to Oil


Why is this important?   Norway gains much of its international income from selling North Sea Oil.   They don't like to use it themselves, as it pollutes their air, but it is how they fund their country internationally.  NORWAY UNDERSTANDS THAT LENR THREATENS THEIR ECONOMIC BASE and they are desperately trying to hedge their country both ways now.



"Towards what, you might ask? It was really only during the panel that the purpose fully emerged. Why was I there? NTVA and TEKNA had formed a committee, organized a symposium and invited participants with a specific purpose in mind. As I noted above, the economy of Norway is underwritten to a very large degree by the adventitious presence of oil and gas off their coast. Their civil society has become reliant on something that did not require a lot of work from most citizens. The question of course is what happens when the oil runs out or, unthinkably, what could happen if an alternative primary energy source were to become competitive with oil and gas as fuels? The far-sighted Scandinavians, both Nations and Corporations, are looking to hedge against this possibility. It would seem that at least some realize that the only way they can stay fully informed of developments is by becoming engaged. Scientists are very reluctant to sell their hard won ideas even for cash and would much rather collaborate with fellow scientists in an exchange of ideas. This is how we progress.

What was being attempted here in Oslo was an educational exercise (unknowingly) to counter the seeds strewn at the APS meeting of May 1, 1989, that had poisoned the minds of educators and researchers alike. The object was to inform the possibility that Martin Fleischmann was right (and, by implication, Randy Mills, Mel Miles, Francesco Piantelli, Les Case, Yoshio Arata, Andrea Rossi, Tadahiko Mizuno, Defkalion, Brillouin and a host of others afterwards). I believe what my hosts would like to see is at least one active, productive research project established in a Nordic country (Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark) that would allow this community to “pay to play” in the LENR/CMNS world and thus be prepared for any sudden advances. A secondary purpose would be to train young people to be the next leaders of any ensuing technology.

This is a reasonable and rational approach that I certainly support. Let me say that more strongly. Any major country or company that does not engage now, or soon, runs a serious risk of missing the start of the revolution and being trampled. That is not to say that I know that LENR will contribute significantly to primary power generation in any form in the near future, or that I know how.

But having studied the field closely now for more than 25 years (more than 35 years if you count our earlier studies of the Pd-D system for other reasons), nothing I know stands as significant impediment to this achievement, and the hoped-for goal of the “good guys” appears to be rapidly approaching. For a long time now corporations have been “lining up to be second” — afraid of the stigma, afraid to be left behind, but with insufficient courage to go first.

With this in mind the Norwegian strategy of “hedging” seems to be entirely appropriate with no risk attached and very little cost associated. In the worst case young people can be trained in relevant disciplines of physical sciences and physics that will have high value in a wide range of applications and implementations. In the best case Norway, Sweden and whichever Nordic country chooses to be involved can position themselves to be at or near the front of the coming wave."
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Re: Nickel to copper transmutation energy
Reply #127 - 11/23/14 at 07:14:41
 

Article writers are beginning to compare and contrast the various LENR people and post YouTube videos of their stuff in motion.

Rossi and Industrial Heat are well ahead of the pack as far as implementation goes.

They may not be ahead as far as technical implementation goes, there are others with "better" designs that are so expensive to scale up they are still stuck at "GO" right now.

None of the rest are making progress at the rate Industrial Heat is doing.

THIS ENTIRE FLEDGLING INDUSTRY IS PRONE TO PARADIGM SHIFT EVENTS AS NEW THOUGHTS OCCUR THAT ARE DRIVEN BY NEW INSIGHTS INTO THE BASE THEORY BEHIND WHAT IS GOING ON.    Plus there are a lot more research groups are out there now, making progress in different directions.

Industrial Heat buying back all the old 1-2 COP E-Cat licenses from years past shows that this new industry will CHANGE rapidly and a player that is in the top 5 that lacks the resources to chase the various paradigm shifts will not be a player for very long.

In short, your old stuff goes obsolete very quickly in a new industry.

Secrecy is still rampant -- it is now thought that Rossi would not demonstrate anything that was remotely current, that he would only show ideas that were low COP and 2 generations back so that the inevitable copiers would automatically be non-competitive.

Patent applications are showing these generational changes now.  Folks who buy LENR  licenses need to be VERY careful in the future because IPH International BV will be very specific about which generation of tech that particular license covers and there will be verbiage that this current license does not cover future or past generations of processes -- just the one process it describes.

Look to see Industrial Heat start naming the generations differently, calling them all "e-cats" is asking for trouble and IPH International BV has no doubt pointed that out to them.
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Re: Nickel to copper transmutation energy
Reply #128 - 11/28/14 at 21:35:59
 
http://news.newenergytimes.net/2012/12/06/mitsubishi-reports-toyota-replication/

Transmutational Energy Research and experimental methods both exchanged and verified between Toyota and Mitsubishi -- Japanese patents granted

"Researchers from Toyota Central Research and Development Laboratories performed an independent replication of a Mitsubishi low-energy nuclear reaction transmutation experiment, according to a physicist from Mitsubishi Heavy Industries speaking at the American Nuclear Society LENR session on Nov. 14 in San Diego, Calif.

The physicist, Yasuhiro Iwamura, told the ANS audience that the Toyota researchers confirmed that nuclear changes from one element to another took place without the use of high-energy nuclear physics. Most scientists who have not followed this field closely consider such profound claims inconceivable. Toyota used a LENR deuterium-permeation transmutation method that Iwamura invented.

Iwamura has been working with this LENR method for 14 years. He said that one of his LENR transmutations was closely but not identically replicated by Toyota. Osaka University and Iwate University previously reported similar replications.

New Energy Times explained the Iwamura deuterium-permeation experimental process in detail two years ago in this article. Iwamura has reported at least half a dozen pairs of transmutations. He finds that abundances of the target element are higher and abundances of the given element are lower after the experiments. He also has seen anomalous isotopic shifts.

Future Progress and Applications

Iwamura said that Mitsubishi is considering his research for three potential applications. The first is for a transmutation facility for radioactive cesium. Mitsubishi is a manufacturer of fission reactors, and cesium-137 is a normal by-product. The second application is the production of rare metals, such as platinum, from abundant metals, such as tungsten. The third application is electrical power generation from excess heat."






So, Japan has been researching this stuff seriously for well over a decade now, with 3 proposed "immediately paying off" commercial enterprises coming out of it that are already protected by previous, and quietly granted, Japanese patents that already have been confirmed as required by Japanese law.

Take a good look at that periodic table based chart and you can see that quite a few element pairs have been proven out already with a few showing transformational chains that go through several elements which would make for very very long lasting reactor cores.

The one that starts with Tungsten and ends up with Platinum would pay you for the entire cost of running it when you sold the used up reactor cores to have the platinum refined out of the ashes ......  

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6,191oF is the melting temp of Tungsten -- you could crank those babies on up until the ceramic started to soften and it would still keep on going undamaged.   Nice long periods of "self-maintain" time between the excite stages.  Really great COP values could be had due to the very long off periods between excites.  

This would not be a touchy "powder melt sensitive" sort of reactor at all, and with so many elements to chain through a reactor core could last a decade between change-outs, easy.  

None of the chain of transmutation of elements has a melt temp of less than 5,500oF so this would be one productive little workhorse of a heater element.   Since it would run well up in the white hot range of temps it could perhaps also be used for lighting as well as heat generation, supposing that the core construction could actually be made to be that small.
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Reply #129 - 11/28/14 at 22:21:02
 

Did you know they discovered early on that adding a trace of Thallium to mercury vapor lights helped to make them start up quicker and work better?

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Have we been accidentally doing low levels of LENR for almost 100 years now and are just now realizing it?

People knew mercury vapor lights were incredibly efficient lights, but no one ever tripped over exactly why .....    Smiley

They also knew they got hot as sin when they were running, but nobody ever tripped over exactly why.

It takes 5-10 minutes to get a mercury vapor light to "start up" and begin making light well, but the mercury is actually vaporized much earlier than that.   Heat and high pressure were thought to be what made the mercury vapor light perk up and go ..... but maybe something else is happening about that same time that produces that prodigious heat and those high efficiency lighting effects, along with the massive heat and high internal pressure.

Once it is started up well, the required electrical input power requirements to get all that light seem to go way down ......

duh.

Grin         ...... and the end of life for a mercury vapor lamp is when the mercury gets slowly contaminated (duh, with more Thallium and what other elements?)
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Reply #130 - 12/05/14 at 08:54:10
 

http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/12/05/compact-flourescent-lightbulbs-we-are-su...

Compact Flourescent Lightbulbs: We are surrounded by LENR in our own homes

Well, it was a whacky enough idea to start all the folks to hunting, doing research into the "bad residues" left over from mercury vapor lamps and (can you believe it) normal florescent tubes and especially them new little ultra compact curly cue type ultra efficient flourescent bulbs.

And what do you thing they found?   Yep, isotopes marching right on up the isotope chain for all the materials uses, right on up into light traces of the next up elements on the periodic table.

"What is really important, however, is that what is happening to the isotopic ratios of Mercury inside the so-called “normal” compact fluorescent light bulbs used in hundreds of millions of homes across the world is undeniably transmutation. So, for transmutation-based systems – and that means slow neutron transfer systems – it is now safe to say “the cat is very much out of the bag”
      [ pun intended Smiley ].

We are literally already surrounded by LENR in our own homes…

With so many inexpensive fluorescent light bulbs around (probably billions by now), it should not be too expensive or hard to test…

As to there being no cold fusion, it all depends on how tight your definition is. There is certainly no cold version of classical hot fusion going on (how could there be, no Deuterium / Tritium) and, indeed, it looks like there is a large increase in the relative abundance of 196Hg at the expense of the other isotopes, showing a loss of neutrons (more “fission” than “fusion”, loss than gain), so it is a wonder where those neutrons went. Now, either these fluorescent light bulbs are beaming out “neutron death rays”, or slow neutrons are being released that are relatively benign (that is, don’t kill the cat as it sits under the fluorescent light bulb, or neutrons are being broken down in some way – now, there’s a thought.

What this research does suggest, however, is that university labs around the world need to get busy re-assessing the safety of these fluorescent light bulbs, in particular looking for any telltale signs of fast neutrons and gamma radiation, then slow neutrons, and finally some other form of em radiation that may be emanating from the light bulb (perhaps the bulbs are brighter than they should be, for example) or maybe that is part of how they are generating their light and why they start to fade (especially since they are totally sealed systems) ??"


Now the research labs of all the metal halide bulb mgfs will be doing a few more experiments, adding in some spare gas and a bit of lower periodic elements to march up the chain into becoming the main element -- just to make the bulbs burn a little hotter and brighter and longer of course.


Grin      did you know these things do glow on for a bit after the power gets cut off ......

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Reply #131 - 12/05/14 at 18:52:20
 

http://atom-ecology.russgeorge.net/2014/12/02/fleischmann-singularity/

The original story as finally told by Pons and Fleischmann.

"As Martin told me the story he and Stan had been conducting many electrochemical loading experiments with heavy water and palladium. One long running experiment was with a largish cube of palladium, as I recall about a 1 cm cube. It had been sitting for a very long time, months, in the typical electrolysis bath of heavy water into which a bit of lithium had been introduced to help the electrolyte. It was one of those experiments that explorers often have on the ‘back of the bench’ to watch over a long time frame.

As it happened over a weekend where Stan and Martin were not going to be around the lab Stan’s son was tasked with peeking in on the lab to make sure all was in order. When he did so he saw that the cube experiment lay shattered and broken on the lab bench and in the bench was a hole as if something had burned through it from the experiment. Stan’s son telephoned to report the news and Stan and Martin sprang into action to see what might have happened.

When they examined the lab bench and remains of the experiment they noted that indeed something had not only burned it’s way through the bench but had also burned down and out of sight into the concrete floor of the basement lab. The basement lab was in the large chemistry building with a massive concrete foundation at the University of Utah where Professor Pons was the chair of the department.

Much was done to try to get to the bottom of what happened and no explanation could be arrived at save that the palladium had become and sustained being impossibly hot and produced a mini ‘China Syndrome’ event. Mysteriously the palladium was gone.


(they stuck a small diameter steel rod down deep deep in the hole and it went through the concrete slab of the foundation and deep into the dirt underneath until the collapsing earth had closed the glazed hole back up some which they could push past with a little effort, and then they simply ran out of steel rod length ......  the remnants of the melted hole apparently just kept on going.   They tested for radiation, of course, but there was no significant residual radioactivity to be found.)

What happened next?

The conditions of the experiment were seemingly quite benign. A tiny amount of DC current amounting a 1 watt or so was being used to electrolyse the heavy water. Oxygen was being produced and bubbled up at the platinum anode and deuterium, heavy hydrogen, bubbled at the palladium cathode cube. Palladium being a sponge for hydrogen was also soaking up the deuterium and that palladium cathode may have been holding as many atoms of deuterium as there were palladium atoms. This was Fleischmann’s perfect recipe for cold fusion.

Martin noted that the measure of the density (fugacity) of the heavy hydrogen isotope deuterium electrochemically loaded into palladium surely exceeded that of metallic hydrogen. Indeed he mused to me the calculations based on his measurements put the density of that heavy hydrogen as being well beyond metallic and similar to the density of hydrogen inside the center of a star!

[. . .]

Beyond Cold Fusion

I asked Martin whether he had tried to repeat the palladium cube melt down experiment. His reply was a dramatic and emphatic NO, he said he thought it far too dangerous to do so. He figured they got away with it once without dire consequences — a second time they might not be so lucky. Just what it was that destroyed that experiment he noted “was perhaps even beyond than cold fusion.” The energy required to do the damage they observed was simply beyond anything they could imagine. It was surely nuclear if not beyond so. Fleischmann and Pons dutifully informed nuclear authorities and were flummoxed when they were simply dismissed as reporting the impossible."



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So, as are most breakthrough discoveries, it all started out as an unexplained lab accident.   Pons and Fleischmann both wisely declined to replicate the same exact experiment of hyper-loading a small solid cube of palladium for two good reasons -- first palladium costs way too much money to "waste" a chunk of it in that fashion again and what if it chose to let itself go all at once instead of just getting super hot like it did the first time?  

BOOM, bada bada BOOM.....  sez Lelu

So they did a very very very thin ribbon of the metal so when it got super hot it would just boil the water and not melt through the table and the floor.   Plus they could super hydrogen load the very very thin strip in inside a week instead of taking months and months for a thicker piece of metal.

This Classic set up of the Pons and Fleischmann experiment has been replicated thousands of times now, but the very high cost of palladium, platinum and the heavy water puts that sort of reactor out of reach for bulk usage.   Plus, the palladium strips do seem to like to melt down spontaneously occasionally in the middle section even when it is contained in a water bath ......  and if too much water boils away and any of the strip gets exposed and then it is -- fitz -- gone, melted through and disconnected from the exciter current.   The classic set up fails safely, in other words, and does so fairly frequently too.  

Palladium melts at 2,831°F.
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Gates is trying to invest in this tech, intending to get into the ground floor of several of the "winning teams".   He is trying to back Italians with early existing patents granted in Italy.   Existing granted patents count for Gates as he has used them historically to assert sole ownership of technical items.

Russians teams have verified the Lugano test now.   http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/12/27/lugano-confirmed-replication-report-publ...






AS the teams rush around trying to assert old patent rights, one of the oldest patent holders goes to the FOSS group and offers to team with them and offer his technical assistance so they can keep up with the leaders.  

This is significant because any elements given over to FOSS become FOSS forever, and Francesco Piantelli could give up enough of his patented IP to the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project to make sure Rossi and crew are never granted any form of patents, ever.   Piantelli can give the whole thing over to FOSS since his patents predate the rest and if he cooperates with the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project then you got the originator and the earliest researcher saying it is all FOSS -- forget about patenting it.

From Gates hunting through the oldest guys one by one it does seem that Rossi just leveraged off the original cold fusion people's published research to start his work on nickel powder.   Also, there are some folks like Decathlon who got started about the same time Rossi did using the same basis.

Rossi has demonstrated two completely different techs now, a water bath system, an electrical heating element system and he is now going after a gas fired heating element system (lowest cost highest COP system, suitable for coal power station refits).   Rossi is making the best speed to commercialization and he has the earliest US patent attempts (not finalized though).

Brillouin is still stuck at go, with tons of patents on a gas floated control system that looks like it will be a no-show due to excessive complexity and very high cost.

People can now count in excess of 20 groups frantically trying to bring this tech to a patentable state since it is now pretty broadly acknowledged as real.



Nuts and bolts stuff  ................

The Russians debunked some of Rossi's "fog of misdirection" as they got simple mix of nickel powder and 10% added lithium hydride to light off and go.   Rossi's mysterious additives may help the reaction start sooner and be less peaky (important to keep it from melting down and give a even slow ramp up).

The Russians used a simple coil of single phase power to set their reaction off ....  so much for the requirement of the expensive three phase adjustable wave stuff Rossi was using.    More and more it seems Rossi was obfuscating things as much as he could, trying to make a simple thing seem a lot more complex than it really is.

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