http://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/1452011/chinese-scientists-urged-devel...

Question becomes:   How many plutonium bombs did you actually need back in the '50s and '60s and 70's ???   Don't you still have THOUSANDS of surplus bombs left over from that period?    WHY are we still making plutonium that has a 10,000 to a million year dangerous period ????    Why don't we just use thorium ore ROCKS to make our energy needs ???

Interesting note:  any dangerous radioactive nasty plutonium waste that needs disposing of can be slowly added to a liquid thorium reactor and it gets burned up by the natural thorium fission cycle.   Gone inside of a year ..... turned into electricity.

Thorium reactors are TINY compared to what we have now.   Shielding is tiny too.   Since fearing a melt down isn't an issue they don't have to be built next to large supplies of water, either.

Grow a brain, America -- you don't need more bombs so quit making plutonium in breeder reactors .....

right now (ok I'm cali centric) people use gas for heat.
The problem is there's a lot of waste heat going up a flume because the exhaust is un-useable.
But with E-cat heat there's no exhaust.
so how many billions of BTU's are going up the flume that soon won't be and what will that do to global warming?

You think E-cat room heaters/furnace, I think E-cat water heaters will be big too.  The energy industry will be shuttered overnite.

You could add a shroud around the e-cat tube and vent the air from the heat exchanger to an air duct radiator to provide home heat.... use all the resources..... boil water for pressure steam - electricity..... shroud the heater with ducts - home heat.
Vent the heat off in the summer, or use it to cook with.. wouldn't take much engineering to use all of the sources of energy.

Home heat is good... 1 year off
Home and water heat is better... 2 years off
Home/water heat and power is optimal... 5 to 10 years off.

http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/11/09/iph-international-bv-listed-as-applicant...



“The new Applicant, IPH International BV is a Dutch company with a sole proprietor European Generation SARL, Luxemburg, a subsidiary of NRG Energy Inc., Houston, and Princeton.”

http://www.nrg.com/

http://www.nrg.com/news/

Well, the International Big Business Green Movement has grabbed on to the control of LENR now so it will be either promoted or squashed very very very quickly now.

It  has become obvious to any and all that the US Patent Office isn't taking its LENR thumb out of its butt for any reason in the near future and the critical "how it works" secrets are leaking out as we speak.

http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/11/09/determining-the-fuel-composition-for-an-...

Determining the Fuel Composition for an E-Cat Reactor (Steven Karels)

"Element % Analysis by Weight
Nickel 55.0
Iron 39.0
Aluminum 4.3
Lithium 1.1
Hydrogen (no Deuterium) 0.6
Total 100.0
LiAlH4 6.0      It is also likely that the LiAlH4 was prepared using hydrogen depleted of deuterium."

Thusly, Industrial Heat, LLC  the current owners of the E-Cat IP of one Andrea Rossi have now combined with a Dutch legal system based (and 1% tax based) green energy cartel to peddle E-Cat licenses world wide running off the existing already approved Swedish patents.  

Fiscal considerations for this move are not known since the  Industrial Heat, LLC  folks DO know how to take their bulky wads of money to the bank and they DO know how to keep their silly mouths shut about it.

It was either do this or let China and India run with it for free due to the total lack of response from the US Patent Office.

Expect the E-Cat research group to move to some other digs somewhere else immediately, with only a very small local team left behind to continue running herd on that first commercial E-Cat installation "somewhere" in NC.

Expect that Rossi has now been told to SHUT UP TOTALLY and quit posting on blogs, etc. completely.   Rossi's help in the future may be viewed by the new cartel as somewhat "counter-productive" since he generates massive resistance from everyone everywhere he goes --- plus he cannot seem to keep his mouth shut and his fingers quiet and his various buds are now leaking critical trade secrets like a sieve now.

IPH International BV has contacts (and lots of lawyers retained) in a multitude of first world nations so expect IPH International BV to be pursuing the international licensing of the E-Cat family of technologies under the Swedish patents wherever they currently do coverage.    And they already do cover most of the world.

Expect http://www.nrg.com/news/ to squash or buy any other USA LENR development efforts totally in the USA and to do nothing much with their own Rossi based IP in the short term since they have such a "currently being built" huge huge huge investment in already sold large solar fields to protect.

This same "new energy" cartel has also purchased the Cyclone Stirling steam engine, the Beacon generation system, Rossi's stuff and several other new "localized" electrical energy systems.  Alternate energy has become big business now days.

Also expect the legal hard ball actions to commence immediately as if you don't get a license from NRG or IPH International BV you can expect to get a subpoena and a court date from them instead.

The Project Dog Bone folks may well get a cease and desist order slapped on them immediately if NRG IPH International BV is as hard cased as popular rumor has them to be.

The Chinese however will not care, since they pro-actively granted backdated E-Cat like patents to themselves two months ago -- so my E-Cat like LENR room heater will likely still show up at Harbor Freight on time.

The rest of the roll out of LENR is going to be MUCH more expensive and take MUCH longer now, I am afraid.

These same folks may try to buy out Godes and Brillouin so as to put LENR all under one roof.    That move would cost them hundreds of millions though as Godes has gotten his patents for his controls widely approved in 19+ different countries now (including China).


  If you had any lingering doubts about E-Cats really working, please consider those reservations now answered in full at this time.

Beijing (CNN) -- In a historic climate change deal, U.S. President Barack Obama and Chinese President Xi Jinping announced both countries will curb their greenhouse gas emissions over the next two decades.

Under the agreement, the United States would cut its 2005 level of carbon emissions by 26-28% before the year 2025. China would peak its carbon emissions by 2030 and will also aim to get 20% of its energy from zero-carbon emission sources by the same year.

"As the world's two largest economies, energy consumers and emitters of greenhouse gases, we have a special responsibility to lead the global effort against climate change," Obama said Wednesday in a joint news conference with Xi.

The announcement marks the first time China has agreed to peak its carbon emissions, according to the White House. Xi is calling for "an energy revolution" that would include broad economic reforms addressing air pollution.

Gee... I wonder how they are planning on doing that?  

http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&...

New Brillouin Energy Patent Application that is broad enough to enclose Rossi's work with solid powders

'A treatment of a possibly powdered, sintered, or deposited lattice (e.g., nickel) for heat generating applications and a way to control low energy nuclear reactions ("LENR") hosted in the lattice by controlling hydride formation. The method of control and treatment involves the use of the reaction lattice, enclosed by an inert cover gas such as argon that carries hydrogen as the reactive gas in a non-flammable mixture. Hydrogen ions in the lattice are transmuted to neutrons as discussed in U.S. Patent Application Publication No. 2007/0206715 (Godes_2007)). Hydrogen moving through the lattice interacts with the newly formed neutrons generating an exothermic reaction.'

All is fair in love and war and LENR ......    Godes has patents granted for his control systems in 19+ countries so far, but his current granted patents only apply to his overly expensive esoteric gas floated control system.

So, he is going to try to leverage on those granted control patents and put in some general wording that includes the new theoretical explanations that folks have just created to explain  how it all works AND to broaden his patents to include solid powder filled systems (like the E-Cat).

His justification?   His earliest works were of that type and he has progressed far beyond Rossi's E-Cat is or can do, which means his work "naturally included" what Rossi is currently promoting.

Now, the fact he never showed a solid system to anyone (nor has anything of that type other than a lab test rig) might show he didn't follow that path at all beyond testing to see about getting some powder mixes to react at all.

So, Brillouin and Industrial Heat are now in a "Who Owns the Patent War" right now with Brillouin leading on patents granted already -- with Brillouin now trying to broaden their patents to include solid E-Cat like models.    The US Patent office final denied Brillouin's original submissions because they never proved the technology worked in any real world application (which is why Rossi & company are so hot on their initial customers and that first customer installed production line 1 megawatt plant).

Godes and company are playing a much bigger plan for a much bigger audience -- they have Norway and China laying in some thoughts on a first Brillouin gas float test plant to be constructed "some time soon".

The original patent applications for both Rossi and Godes were fraught with stuff that isn't what they are currently doing, so it is obvious that both patents needed to be amended to get in line with current reality.

Godes 19 patents are all about control systems for his gas levitated powder system --- Godes claims to be able to run closer to the edge because he can separate his grains if they start to overheat and he can alleviate local hot spots by flushing hot hydrogen gas through them and agitating them physically with his gas pulses.

Godes system is better for a large central power plant type installation -- much more expensive and complicated though to actually build and do.

But, since Godes has never even built a larger test installation yet (and he's run through 20 million in development funds so far) Godes is getting some heat now for no real results for the money spent from his financial backers.

The commercialization of your ideas is required to prove your item really works in the real world, especially in the face of competing claims by other people.

It is now a race to commercialization and Godes is still stuck at the staring gate.

Godes ideas may be "superior" but he's got no real installations AT ALL.    His existing already approved patents all have to do with a gas float control system that is not in use anywhere.

Rossi's group is now 1) large   2) multinational  3) the Rossi group players are natural citizens of the countries they are located in  4) Each one of the Rossi group are now chasing their own set of local laws to get a commercial version of E-Cat actually into certified and licensed production.

The Chinese Rossi group is now coming out as founding members of the Chinese national thrust for pollution free energy.   Everything energy in China is government controlled, after all.   Some of those Rossi like Chinese patents are now known to be from Industrial Heat LLC licensees.

Expect the worldwide Rossi consortium's patent lawyers to take exception to the recent Brillouin patent additions in each of their countries.

You know, the Rossi guys are all local boys who know who to talk to to get things done.

Countries do tend to support their own citizens, after all.