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justin_o_guy2
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Is anyone able to explain
09/15/14 at 13:20:25
 
why we are shipping Ebola patients into America? Wouldnt it be JUST as easy to SEND whatever treatment theyre gonna get HERE ,To them? Sounds like a recipe for disaster, to me.. They cant seem to stop staph and MRSA in our hospitals,, How would you like to discover that the person who just came in your room to check your BP and wake you up in the middle of the nite was also helping to care for an Ebola patient? Remember Typhoid Mary? It didnt make HER sick, but she gave it to people,, Sounds like , if not THE stupidest stunt Ive ever seen, its at least runnin a TIGHT second..
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Reply #1 - 09/15/14 at 15:35:01
 
My view:  

It's, 'Feel Good'.

It, makes, 'good' press/media.

It makes, 'King Bama', 'look good'.

(Do you know, that, 'fundraising' is called a, 'war chest',
and when a person has a, 'war chest', and they do NOT run again.
that, 'war chest', is theirs)
So two things here. King Bamma, is betting that, he will overturn the Constitution, (again), and run for a 3rd term.  
But if he lost that 'bet', he will have,  'Just a Few Dollars' in his, 'War Chest".

It makes, PERFECT sense, to, 'send the needed items their',
rather than, 'bring that illness here'.

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Reply #2 - 09/15/14 at 17:42:54
 
Somewhere in the upper reaches of the mindsphere, a group of Doctors and Hospital Administrators decided that it would be a good test of the system implemented at great expense before ordering many more hospital in the country to get with the program.  People in Public health "know" that when the next one hits, it will make a big dent in our country (and the world).  For they believe (probably correctly) that as the human population gets more crowed and rubs elbows with previously un bothered strain of (pick a plague) will kill an unbelievable number of people.
In shiort, this is a test, only a test... Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #3 - 09/15/14 at 18:18:43
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 09/15/14 at 13:20:25:
why we are shipping Ebola patients into America? Wouldnt it be JUST as easy to SEND whatever treatment theyre gonna get HERE ,To them? Sounds like a recipe for disaster, to me.. They cant seem to stop staph and MRSA in our hospitals,, How would you like to discover that the person who just came in your room to check your BP and wake you up in the middle of the nite was also helping to care for an Ebola patient? Remember Typhoid Mary? It didnt make HER sick, but she gave it to people,, Sounds like , if not THE stupidest stunt Ive ever seen, its at least runnin a TIGHT second..



no, it's NOT easier to "just send whatever treatment" there to them. America does have some of the most advanced healthcare facilities in the world, and hey,things have turned out okay so far, they got better and new treatments may have been developed, and maybe those treatments could be sent overseas.
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Reply #4 - 09/15/14 at 18:50:38
 
I'm gonna disagree. The cost and risk of bringing people with diseases that are so deadly here is just stupid. Whatever treatment can be done here can be done anywhere. Just drugs,they can be shipped..
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Reply #5 - 09/15/14 at 19:23:20
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 09/15/14 at 18:50:38:
I'm gonna disagree. The cost and risk of bringing people with diseases that are so deadly here is just stupid. Whatever treatment can be done here can be done anywhere. Just drugs,they can be shipped..



no it wasn't just drugs, they developed new treatments for those specific patients while they were here, that takes LABS and equipment with direct access to the patients.

Also ebola is not an airborne virus, it's more like HIV in that way, where bodily fluids need to be exchanged for it to be transmitted.

here's a whole article about it, I know, I know, how dare I trust a source like NPR, but I'm not spending any more time digging around the internet for this argument.

http://www.npr.org/2014/08/03/337494724/why-bringing-ebola-patients-to-the-u-...
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Reply #6 - 09/15/14 at 20:23:25
 
From pigs to monkeys Ebola goes airborne
Search that..
And,never forget that there are eugenicists that are working to weaponise many diseases. The goobs just contracted for like 16,000 Ebola hazmat suits. Read the Georgia Guidestones again.
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Reply #7 - 09/15/14 at 20:24:17
 
And laboratory equipment is portable
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Reply #8 - 09/15/14 at 21:05:55
 
I just read the Obama administration just allocated a billion bucks for Ebola research & treatment.
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Reply #9 - 09/16/14 at 08:17:26
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 09/15/14 at 20:24:17:
And laboratory equipment is portable

but then you'd also have to send all the doctors and nurses and lab techs and various infrastructure too. do you know that they wouldn't need a multi million dollar machine that is unique to that one research facility in America.

so instead of sending millions of dollars worth of equipment and tens of people into Africa, the alternative is bringing two people here under highly contained isolation conditions
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Reply #10 - 09/16/14 at 09:42:25
 
I hope it works out. If not,remember,you were all for it.
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Reply #11 - 09/16/14 at 09:47:35
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 09/16/14 at 09:42:25:
I hope it works out. If not,remember,you were all for it.

im more worried about air travelers coming here b4 they know they have it
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Reply #12 - 09/16/14 at 11:02:47
 
I welcome it, with open arms.
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Reply #13 - 09/16/14 at 18:09:50
 
Paraquat wrote on 09/16/14 at 11:02:47:
I welcome it, with open arms.
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as long as it doesn't affect me or mine!!
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Reply #14 - 09/17/14 at 06:10:40
 
I've said it here before and I'll say it here again.
To set context I was arguing with someone about a super virus wiping out most of the population.
They asked "What if it kills you too?"
To which I replied "That's the cost of doing business."

I don't care if it's zombies, Ebola, souped up Whooping Cough.
Conversely, I also don't care if we move into a Star Trek (The Next Generation) golden age of prosperity and peace.
I just hate living in stagnation. I want something to break; in either direction.


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