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Re: Microsoft sues Samsung - Android
Reply #15 - 08/09/14 at 09:31:34
 

Let's roll us some MS employment numbers.

If 18,000 jobs is 14% of the total work force, so 18,000 / .14 = 128,5000 total MS jobs

80,000 were contract workers, who are now on a 50% on/off schedule = effectively 40,000 "whole job" equivalents lost by this one cut alone

So, 128,500 total jobs - 18,000 hard cut and 40,000 effective contract cut = 58,000 jobs cut or 45% of the total MS work force were just cut.


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A 45% manning reduction, now do you understand why everything older than last year is getting "non-supported" now?
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Reply #16 - 08/09/14 at 11:31:03
 

So, I have laid out MS's slide into desperation, with them abruptly cutting their workforce by 45% and dropping all support for all older items.  No doubt MS is starting to do the right things finally, but they really should have done them more gradually over a year ago.

MS is at the point no one wants their product any more and some folks are concerned if they have a future past next year even using their current "total loss operation, no mobile revenue at all" business plan.


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Here is the latest on Intel, with Intel just reshuffling all their old 22nm chip names and saying that they are "newly released chipsets".

Everyone remembers the Intel mobile losses chart:




.... so here are the latest Intel analysis from the tech and the financial community (which still thinks that 14nm is on schedule and Sofia and Broxton will actually be here before years end instead of maybe late next year).  

One wonders what they would think if they knew about the current industry-wide set of 14nm production delays .... which will extend Intel's need for extreme loss leader pricing for another whole YEAR .....    Roll Eyes

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/186498-pyrrhic-victory-intel-forces-its-...

Pyrrhic victory: Intel forces its way into mobile, but might destroy itself in the process


Also note when reading the article:  if Intel could actually do 14nm with only two passes they would be busy 'a doing it right now -- 14nm currently needs triple/quadruple passes and gives low low test yields on the resulting wafers.


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What both Wintel companies really have to fear is quietly taking place already -- the savvy super investors like Warren Buffet are quietly selling off their Microsoft and Intel stock holdings as quickly as they can without causing any price ripples.   When they have moved their actual holdings, then they will short the stocks on the futures market and then blast them publicly and loudly for their recent crazy actions causing a panic sale (yup, your basic stock manipulation scenario).

Then, at the height of the furor and panic, they will buy again, starting a rally which will jack the stock price back up out of the gutter again.

Screaming irrate American investors smarting from their losses will then insist that the crazy loss leader pricing and all the freebie software BS stop at once, which will seal the fate of both companies.

You do remember MS investors suing MS last year due to Ballmer's lying to them and not reporting RT and Surface losses in the quarter in which they occurred, right?    Big noise, big stock dip, big recovery -- super investors made a mint.

Ballmer was gone within 220 days of that fiasco.    RIP, Ballmer ....

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Re: Microsoft sues Samsung - Android
Reply #17 - 08/10/14 at 07:17:37
 

The big prediction has now been made, now we start looking for confirmation of big stockholders quietly dumping their stock pending a stock meltdown panic a' coming ....

How about this for a sorta confirmation ???

http://www.mideasttime.com/microsoft-director-sells-184618300-in-stock-msft/1...

Microsoft Director Sells $184,618,300 in Stock (MSFT)

Microsoft (NASDAQ:MSFT) Director William H. Gates III unloaded 4,145,000 shares of the company’s stock in a transaction that occurred on Thursday, July 24th. The shares were sold at an average price of $44.54, for a total transaction of $184,618,300.00. Following the completion of the transaction, the director now directly owns 313,847,107 shares of the company’s stock, valued at approximately $13,978,750,146. The sale was disclosed in a document filed with the SEC, which can be accessed through this link.
Microsoft (NASDAQ:MSFT) traded down 1.19% during mid-day trading on Monday, hitting $43.97. The stock had a trading volume of 29,653,196 shares. Microsoft has a 52 week low of $30.84 and a 52 week high of $45.71.

So, when Bill Gates begins to quietly sell off some stock, do you think that has any meaning ????

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Reply #18 - 08/12/14 at 09:05:23
 

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/08/broadwell-is-coming-a-look-at-intels-l...

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8355/intel-broadwell-architecture-preview

http://liliputing.com/2014/08/intels-first-broadwell-chips-coming-tablets-not...



50% smaller than WHAT ???   Oh, its obese predecessor of course -- even the new one is WAY WAY larger than any ARM chipset because ARM has everything integrated on the same smaller piece of silicone.  

No big huge daugherboard just holding only the CPU and GPU .... a daughterboard that has to be soldered on to a larger multi-layer motherboard with LOTS of other non-integrated components & bits and pieces.

So, Intel starts talking some details about 14nm Broadwell (Intel Core M), which "is in production" but will not be released until late this year in limited amounts.

What is known so far ..... only a 5% speed increase comes with the first new Broadwell chipset.   This isn't very much at all.

GPU is unchanged (and is not 14nm either) -- Intel still runs the two separately and combines them on a relatively large daughterboard unit, each of which has an energy nanny chipset that is on the main motherboard along with the separate GPS and Radio chipsets, etc etc. etc.   All of these added bits and pieces suck both money and battery/energy that ARM simply doesn't have to do.

20% decrease in energy use (compared to the Intel predecessor) at the default low speed (with no energy savings at all in turbo mode).   Once again, this is really just tweeks on the energy nanny chipset, not real inherent 14nm differences are coming through compared to the old 22nm process.   Since Intel is currently 25% off the general ARM pace, that means the new 14nm chip isn't really going to be more energy efficient than ARM is currently at 28nm.

First Broadwell chipset will be very expensive and will only go into large thin fanless laptops and large expensive tablets (Ultrabooks and Surface Pro 4).

Intel admits to very low current yields on the 14nm process, but says they are getting better and will become acceptable sometime next year.

Intel never says how many lithography passes they are doing just to make this chipset at all -- current estimates are 3 to four passes.

Intel is now claiming to have two, not one 14nm lines now, with a third going in in 2015.   This jives with past information about the original line being an old one that was burned up once  & was refurbished while a brand new line was installed elsewhere.



OK, let's talk "advancement"

A 5% speed improvement and 20% energy improvement on Intel's current position does not even get them caught up to ARM right now at 28nm.

Example, a Tegra K1 is twice as energy efficient as the current Intel chipsets and is faster than all of them but the i5 and i7 chipsets.  Tegra is due to go to A57 next year, which will increase processor power and the 20nm die shrink for that generation will further increase the energy lead exampled by the Tegra K1 over Intel's planned 14nm Broadwell right now.  

So Intel never gets winning (or even competitive) at any point in time in mobile space.

If Broadwell Core M is the best Intel has to offer for the next 2 years, then Intel has dry fired yet again and will have to continue struggling and spraying red ink all over their mobile products.

NO ON CHIP SYSTEMS INTEGRATION,  A SEPARATE LARGE DAUGHTER BOARD HOLDING A SEPARATE CPU AND A SEPARATE GPU --- with all of the rest of the functions on separate chipsets on the larger more complex motherboard.

Intel still hasn't learned how to make a mobile anything really, not yet anyway.


Good news for the industry (if you believe the Intel propaganda anyway) is that first quarter of 2015 should see a roll out of 14nm product designs from the rest of the ARM crew (these will tend to be all the A57 64 bit designs that have been rumored of late).

Remember, Intel is talking vapor still, we are still looking for the first 14nm product releases in a consumer mobile product.

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Re: Microsoft sues Samsung - Android
Reply #19 - 08/14/14 at 09:38:10
 

So, Intel once again fires a big blast of brown far future vapor with much blowing of the trumpets and beating of the PR drums.

"Why" is always the question that pops up when Intel pushes out a big "year plus out into the future" butt gas blast -- this generally only happens whenever they have to explain themselves to their stockholders.

Still, SOME relevant information is released at that point in time.   Here is the gist of what Intel will be able to do in volume sometime in 2015 at 14nm making a 5% speed upper and a 20% energy savings on their existing totally non-integrated design.  

A non-integrated design that is still too porky go go into a phone and can only go into larger tablets and laptops.



Remember, Intel is talking about a year out into the future with all this -- so let's compare it to what Samsung will be shipping inside of 30 days in their new mid-line phone, the Samsung Galaxy Alpha.


THIS IS A MID-LINE SAMSUNG PRODUCT FOR NOW THROUGH CHRISTMAS, IT IS NOT THE LATEST AND GREATEST SAMSUNG SUPERPHONE OR SUPERCHIP (which is called the Exynos 5433 and will become product shipping & real exactly when Apple announces their new A8 chipset and the IPhone products in October)   Samsung and Apple jest really love each other, can't you tell?


http://liliputing.com/2014/08/samsung-launches-exynos-5430-octa-core-20nm-pro...



"The Samsung Galaxy Alpha smartphone will be the first device powered by a 20nm Exynos 5430 processor when the new metal-clad phone ships in September.

Samsung says the new chip will use about 25 percent less power than its predecessors, which helps justify the decision to use an 1,860mAh battery in the Galaxy Alpha instead of a larger 2,800 Ah battery like the one used in the Galaxy S5."


1860/2800 = 33% reduction in real battery size so I would say the 25% claimed power reduction is about right.

Speed is claimed to be a little faster than the current primo 5422 chipset, so Samsung is now swinging a new mid-line phone that has all the performance of their old primo phone in a thinner cooler running package that only needs 33% less of a battery.

Let's talk about package size a bit -- how big is the new 5430 chipset?   You would think since it is fully integrated (has everything inside it, GPS, radio, etc etc it would bulk pretty large compared to just a simple daughter-board containing the CPU and GPU the way Intel has to do it, right?  

Nope, it is considerably smaller.

This entirely integrated fully functional 8 CPU cores, 6 GPU cores, Radio and GPS already in there cell phone ready system on a chip that already OUT PERFORMS Intel's promised vapor specs for 2015 is a small <28mm square chipset that is already smaller than the Intel's vapor promised 14nm chip's 30mm length dimension.

Here is a pic of the last gen Odroid board showing the actual Exynos 5422 chipset (the one which was die shrunk to make up this latest Samsung Octa 5430 chipset).   The old 28nm Exynos 5422 measured ~28mm square as shown below in a real product, so the new 20nm Exynos 5430 die shrunk model will of course measure smaller accordingly.



Note how full integration means there isn't much on that Odroid motherboard other than the connector jacks ?????   Please remember, this is a fully operational PC motherboard, not a stripped down tablet or phone board.

<28mm square for a fully integrated 8 core Exynos chipset right now vs a 30mm x 16.5mm daughterboard that requires all those additional main chipsets to make up a functioning unit of any kind.

Intel's vapor plan for next year has to include spending all that red ink support money to pay for all the extra components that their vendors will still need to put on the larger motherboards make up a STILL slightly non-competitive Intel based product.


Sorry Intel, you just told us yet again that you are still going to be 2 years behind the times in mobile even with your wonderful new 2015 vapor plan.


LASTLY, INTEL'S LAST CLAIM TO "TECHNOLOGICAL LEADERSHIP" JUST WENT UNDER THE WHEELS OF THE REALITY BUS -- SAMSUNG AND QUALCOMM AND APPLE ARE NOW ALL CURRENTLY SHIPPING 20nm LITHOGRAPHY PRODUCTS AND INTEL IS STILL JUST SHIPPING 22nm.


Wink       ..... not to mention everything you sell in mobile costs you far far more to build than you can sell it for in the real world.  
Right now you approach 100% total loss on your mobile division and are well over the 100% loss position on some of your chipsets.


Pay attention Intel, Tegra K1 is the first ARM chipset that is actually aimed at your bread and butter laptop/PC business.   Samsung is coming out with one in a month or two, as are Qualcomm and (don't forget about them) Apple and their A8 and A9  64 bit generations which will hit your high end tablet and laptop businesses pretty hard.    

Americans like their Apple stuff, better than they like yours and Microsoft's stuff as a matter of fact.

Once you see some more real ARM pc/laptop competition (and a general purpose ARM OS to support it) then you will have much more of a even playing field in the PC/laptop world.  

Then Intel will lose all the excess profitability in PC that currently funds their  "total loss leader mode" in their mobile products.

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Re: Microsoft sues Samsung - Android
Reply #20 - 08/15/14 at 05:56:09
 

NO FAIR !!!  scream all the dozen or so rabid Intel lovers out there .... compare a properly super-powerful ARM chipset for size when you talk about our beloved one year away from being really real vaporous Intel 14nm Broadwell chipset.  

Don't compare our not yet state of the art 14nm Broadwell against a similar performance pedestrian mundane actual real mid-line Samsung chipset and tell us our futuristic dream is fat and porky and underpowered ..... that isn't fair.  

You are butt hurting our feelings on purpose, you evil person, you.




YES, it is.   Your future vaporous Intel chipset is underpowered and porky and non-integrated and it will be sold at a net loss and all of the other cruel butt hurtful but truthful things that have been said before.

Get used to it, it only gets worse by the time it actually gets here because ARM is moving all the time and it is getting better and better and better while Intel slowly twiddles along with their non-integrated dry fires.

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OK, here is a really big fat 28 nm ARM chipset to compare the future 30mm x 16.5mm die size 14nm  Broadwell against .....

This is the Tegra K1 at 197 cores -- this has got to be the biggest ARM chipset out there since it is 197 cores and is only done right now at 28nm.   This gives all the advantage to Intel, right?

I mean, really now -- just look at all those dozens of motherboard functions that are built right into that chipset -- it has got to be huge, right?



The 30mm long 16.5mm wide 14nm Broadwell  has got to be a lot smaller than that giant huge monster of a fully integrated ARM chipset, right?

Nope, the K1 is 23mm wide, 23mm tall -- and it totally kicks the future vaporous 14nm Broadwell's ass for performance in any real test that has been done so far (assuming 14nm Broadwell actually performs at 5% faster and 20% better battery life as Intel projects).    

As a matter of fact, it kicks the ass of some of today's Intel Core i3 laptop/desktop chipsets as well.

Real world K1 gets twice the REAL run time in a Chromebook compared to the current Intel Bay Trail chipsets (even though it is run only at 28nm lithography level).


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Sorry, Intel fan boys, the only thing bigger than an Intel 14nm Broadwell is another older even more porky non-integrated Intel chipset.

Try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try try, try, try  again ....


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Reply #21 - 08/15/14 at 06:51:33
 

NO FAIR !!!  scream again all the dozen or so rabid Intel lovers out there .... compare a properly super-powerfully strong per each individual CPU core ARM chipset for size when you talk about our beloved one year away from being really real vaporous Intel 14nm Broadwell chipset.  

Pick something with the same or better through put per core instead of overwhelming us with 197 cores .....    (and yeah, we know about all them dirty GPU compute sharing tricks that ARM is a' doing -- that is cheat'n, cheat'n real bad because we can't do that yet)

OK, since you are a real glutton for punishment (and since it will hit before Christmas when the Apple A8 stuff comes out) I give you the 64 bit Denver cored Tegra K1 WITH ONLY TWO DENVER CORES THAT WILL STILL OUTDO YOUR 4 CORE FUTURE VAPOROUS 14nm BROADWELL.

(please also note that if they decide they really need 4 Denver cores to do even more serious Core i5 level laptop/desktop evil to you Intel lovers
later on down the road, they do have a 14nm design already laid out for a K1 quad core Denver already .....)


Each individual Tegra Denver core is indeed stronger than an Intel Broadwell core.    And smaller.   And completely integrated with the rest of the chip, including GPU work sharing, etc.    And they will hit reality by this Christmas which your Intel stuff will never do.

23mm x 23mm again, as shown, the same die size as the other K1.



.... and yes them whopping strong Denver cores can share compute tasks with all 192 of the Kepler graphics cores -- after all spreadsheets don't do much of a graphics work load you know and all them GPUs were just a' sitting there being all bored, so ARM decided to put them to work ....

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Reply #22 - 08/15/14 at 19:50:59
 

NO FAIR !!!  scream them frantic Intel fan boys   "Compare us against Qualcomm so our future next year totally vaporous Broadwell 14nm two function CPU/GPU daughter-board can be smaller than ..... SOMETHING OUT THERE, PLEASE !!!!!"

OK, We will compare you to an old 800 or 801 total system on a chip so you can be smaller than something out there.

But remember two things please ....

1)  The Qualcomm is a phone or a tablet on a single chip, all you have to add is a battery, speakers, screen, case, etc.

Nobody has to pay to add a single thing to a Qualcomm chipset, it is all there, working perfectly and it is all pre-tuned exactly to the job you bought it to do.    This is including the radio, the GPS, etc. etc. etc.

2)  Qualcomm is going down to 20nm before Christmas just like everybody else (except you) and we don't know just how far that is going to shrink their 808 phone on a chip product.

Qualcomm is also arguably the most successful chip integrator on the entire planet right now, something Intel really hasn't achieved yet at all in any real fashion whatsoever.

But yes, your 2 function only 14nm Broadwell daughter board is smaller than a 28nm Qualcomm 800 or 801 fully integrated phone or tablet on a single chip.

Feel all better now?


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..... Qualcomm sells their stuff at a nice fat profit margin and their mobile division pays its own way and gives a nice dividend back to their stock holders every year.  

No red ink at Qualcomm ......
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Reply #23 - 08/18/14 at 11:40:55
 

NO FAIR !!!!   PERSONAL  FOUL !!!!   RED CARD !!!!  scream the Intel fanboys .....

Don't you dare show us a fully integrated AMD Mullens chipset when we don't have a fully integrated anything to show anybody just yet ---

It isn't fair, we have totally destroyed AMD three times now and you are saying that they are BACK again !!!!



Sorry dudes, butt-hurt you may be but you have to admit that new $199 Stream Laptop from HP might just tell the world that you guys really AREN'T any form of real low end technological leader really any more.

Just some really out of date really really slow guys with deep deep pockets .....
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Reply #24 - 08/21/14 at 09:31:29
 

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/08/18/microsoft_security_sanity_buster/

The new, smaller, leaner, 45% people reduced Microsoft brings back a very old feature that we thought was discontinued forever ---

.....  but no, it is all shiny and new again and has just been re-released for you to enjoy.

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"On 12 August Microsoft released 40 updates for Internet Explorer, Windows 7 and Windows 8 Pro.

Very shortly afterwards people began reporting their Windows machines bricking – while others glimpsed something they hadn't seen in a very long time: the Blue Screen of Death. Many thought BSODs were a thing of the past in this brave new Windows 7 (and 8) world.

They were wrong. As ever, people were in the dark over what had gone wrong and why.

"I have spent about 8 hours looking into this and I found out that the error occurs when I install any of the following updates: KB2976897, KB2982791 and KB2970228. I checked my laptop's ram and hard disk and they do not show any defects," wrote Frank on a Microsoft forum.

Tempers were running high. "I wasted loads of time trying to get my PC to boot as mine boots in to a blue screen and it comes with error "win32k.sys," wrote 007L2Kill.

One user unloaded: "I wish that Microsoft would check the updates before releasing them I suspect that these updates mentioned above are not compatible with windows 7 64bit which I am running."

Susan Bradley, a Microsoft “valued professional community moderator”, shot back:

   "They do test, they just missed something here. Would you mind emailing me so we can get this officially investigated? The more samples/cases we have the faster we can get to the bottom of it."

Hardly the words of comfort one expects from Microsoft. Judging by Bradley's comments, the software giant was as clueless about what had gone wrong as the hapless users."

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Reply #25 - 08/22/14 at 03:25:36
 

My wife just told me her home Windows laptop had locked up and was "doing something bad".

I immediately looked at it of course (that's my job, dealing with computers) -- it was MS priority level pushing 63 updates at her machine to undo all the crap they did on the 12th of this month with their standard monthly update's big arsed disaster.

Once the 63 updates were in the machine, it immediately priority asked for 47 associated file updates to associated files that were required to support the new files.  

(going backwards is never clean or easy in MS's world).

Microsoft is backtracking like two full levels of security updates, replacing I would guess about 1/3 of the total active windows installation in the process between the primary push and the associated files requirements.

Roll Eyes

This mess has already taken her machine out of use for two solid hours so far at the Time Warner standard package download speeds, with a Malwarebytes scan and a defrag still yet to go when MS finishes getting all their little bits and pieces in proper order.  

I count 4 5 6 reboots so far, and the count is still building.

I started a Linux Mint update on my machine at the same time as my wife's Priority Windows Update (while it was still downloading files) just to compare the two.   I was done with the Linux Mint update inside 2 minutes and it required no reboot and no defrag -- it just downloaded and installed the handful of new files and said "Done".


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On the Windows machine 409 files were fragmented by this action, a mass of files like I said of about 1/3 of the operating system files.   Just to defragment the system after the full update set had landed took 16 minutes and the Malwarebytes scan when it was all MS happy took 13 minutes to complete by itself (and it found 4 dodgy items when I did the scan).

MS is simply an overly complex pain in the butt to take care of -- no wonder IT departments the world over absolutely love them Chromebooks.

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