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07/10/14 at 05:19:49
 
Been a while since I have visited but I have missed reading all the stories.  Here is my delima...... Went to crank the bike the other day and sounded fine at first but then I noticed it started sounding a little rough. Pushed the choke in and then it ran better for a couple seconds and then slowly puttered out and died. It will crank back up but dies every time. Naturally, I thought it may be time to clean the carb so I did that but I have 2 screws that are stripped on the top of the carb and cannot get them of to look at the diaphragm and needle. That is issue #1- stripped screws.
Thought maybe I had a exhaust leak from where I put on the dyna last spring. Re-did the exhaust, tin can, and clamps...... No changes.... Still dies.....
Decided to look at the air filter and this is what I find......

Thoughts??
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Reply #1 - 07/10/14 at 05:43:14
 
It sounds like another case of petcock failure.  The filter obviously needs to be replaced but I doubt that the dirty filter is the cause of the bike not running

When you say the screws are stripped do you mean that the heads are messed up and a screw driver spins out or do you mean that the actual threads are stripped out.  If it is just the heads you might be able to use vice grips to turn them.  Try tapping on them first with a small hammer while you have the flange supported on a block of wood.  However, I doubt that the diaphragm and slide have anything to do with your current problem.  Sounds like a fuel supply problem.
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Reply #2 - 07/10/14 at 08:36:03
 
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Reply #3 - 07/10/14 at 13:07:00
 
Choke IN and it runs better? Tell me you're not riding with the choke out.
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Reply #4 - 07/10/14 at 19:08:08
 
Not riding at all cuz it won't stay cranked
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Reply #5 - 07/14/14 at 07:51:43
 
Tried the test that one of the guys suggested to determine if the petcock was bad. Removed the vac line from the carb and tapped on it a few times.  Smelled like gas and few drops came out. plugged vac line and capped off inlet on carb. set petcock to prime, pulled out choke, and it started up and sounded great, as usual. let her run a minute , pushed choke back in and she started petering out and then died. Choke out again and cranked her up and pulled rolled on the throttle to see if I could keep her from dying and when I snapped the throttle closed exhaust started to pop. WTH????
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Reply #6 - 07/14/14 at 08:08:22
 
How long did that thing sit? If the P.O. let it sit and the gas in the bowl evaporated and he did that a few times,the carb might be gunked up.
I'd also check fuel flow. Pull the hose off the carb,point it in a gas can and switch to prime.I'd drain the bowl in a clean,clear glass and see how much and how clean it is.

I.m.o. IF it's running good,Good being the operative word,closing the gas off should not kill it. But,ride it,let it shut down,turn the petcock off of prime,immediately,and drain the bowl to see how much is in it. You know when it's gonna do it,so be ready.Don't let it fill up the bowl on ya.  

Hey,guys,can a sticky slide do this?
You might as well put a petcock on it. Maybe won't solve all of it,but they DO fail and they DO cause weird problems AND you got gas outta the vacuum line,so,that's enough to condemn it. I would just go buy one at the Yamaha shop. Save the hassle of trying to be sure you're actually BUYing a real Yamaha part. It's faster,too.
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Reply #7 - 07/14/14 at 08:22:22
 
Justin, I have owned it since last spring and have ridden it this season already. A week ago I removed tank and drained gas from it, and cleaned out carb. Gas flowed freely from the hose into the gas can. However, the heads of two of the bowl screws are totally stripped and I don't have vice grips. Trying to figure how to get them suckers out and then I can access the bowl, diaphragm .....
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Reply #8 - 07/14/14 at 08:50:53
 
Once upon a time even I had no vise grips.
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Reply #9 - 07/14/14 at 09:21:45
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/14/14 at 08:50:53:
Once upon a time even I had no vise grips.


And if you do buy some Vice Grips....buy the real thing or a quality alternative.....not something cheaply made.  My nephew needed some stripped Phillips head screws removed, and he furnished me a pair of his cheaply made ones.  When I tightened them down on the screws - the jaws deformed and would not bite into the screw heads.....and we got nowhere.  The next day I brought my Vice Grips from home, and they removed the screws easily.....the Vice grips jaws cut into the screw heads and got a good grip - just like they are supposed to.

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Reply #10 - 07/14/14 at 13:05:59
 
And flat spots filed on opposite sides help. Be careful not to taper in at the top.Smooth edged  file.
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Reply #11 - 07/15/14 at 18:17:59
 
About to give up and just bite the bullet and take the bike to the shop.
Bike still runs fine with choke out  but with choke in....not so much.
Here is what I have done so far to try to fix the problem...

Replaced spark plug
Replaced stock petcock with Raptor.......which, by the way, leaks. Gas drips out from under the screws holding it onto tank (same screws from stock petcock)
Cleaned out carb
Replaced air filter

Last chance ideas????
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Reply #12 - 07/15/14 at 19:03:08
 
These bikes will run on choke even though the pilot and main jets may be completely clogged. When you turn the choke off (push it in) the bike will die. I like to use pipe cleaners to clean carburetor jets. You can get a set at any auto store. I would pull the carburetor one more time and very carefully recheck and clean pilot and main jets and all the tiny ports using the pipe cleaners and carburetor/choke cleaner.
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Reply #13 - 07/15/14 at 20:37:00
 
Did you plug the vac port on the carb?

what exhaust?
what intake?
did you rejet or mod the muf?
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Reply #14 - 07/15/14 at 21:03:06
 
I crimped the vac line and folded it in half and zip tied it like I saw someone do on this forum.
Did not change anything with the exhaust . Last spring I changed exhaust to dyna slip on and a few weeks ago when I started having problems with the bike dying when pushing in choke, I took out the old crush gasket , put a new one in, and re-did my muffler clamps.
Not sure if this will help at all but as it stands now, with the choke out it runs pretty strong and sounds normal when rolling on and off throttle. However, with choke in, rolling on and off throttle and I get loud pops from exhaust
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