Okay, last time I rode my savage, it kept cutting off whenever I came to a stop. Wouldn't idle, just died. Made it home, took a look at things and found a lot (LOT) of oil in the airbox.
I know it wasn't overfilled with oil, and I know it's not the petcock, as it's a raptor petcock and the vacuum port is plugged, etc.  (did raptor mod a long time ago).
Honestly, before this, bike ran great.
Whats the deal? Why is soooo much gas and oil filling my airbox? Why would it die at idle?
What do I need to do after I change the oil, clean out airbox, etc?
Carb rebuild?
Help me people, I'm at my wits end.
:'(

Just a layman here.  
Probably no oil.  More than likely gas.  Sounds like carb vacuum port seal is leaking. (or gasket?) Bike won't start because it's not getting air.  It's getting gas fumes.  So it's choking.  
There is a dain screw in the bottom of the air box.  You should be able to get to it with if you get on your back and reach up.  It will drip out.
Pull filter and let air out until dry.  

Leave the airbox cover off and troubleshoot the carb.  Imo it's definitely an air leak in the carburetor.

Or parked on a slope?

verslagen1 wrote on 06/15/14 at 21:42:24:


Is that correction or interpretation?
Not saying I am right... but let me elaborate. The last message was on a phone and there were people talking to me so it was kinda of short hand and probably not as articulated as it should have been.

Just a layman here.  
Probably no oil.  More than likely gas.  Sounds like a leak in the vacuum port in the carburetor or possibly the carb gasket.
The bike won't start because it's not getting air.  It's getting gas fumes.  So it's choking.  
There is a drain hose in the bottom of the air box that can be opened to allow the gas to drain out.  You should be able to get to it with if you get on your back and reach up.
Pull filter and let air out until dry.  

Leave the air box cover off and troubleshoot the carb.  Imo it's definitely an air leak in the carburetor.

I understand that the savage doesn't like to be parked on a slope. This has not been a problem for me but it might be a possibility in your case.  


Serowbot posted at the same time as me. He's more than likely correct as i have heard that the float sticking is also a common problem. I am just trying to offer other possibility.  I had recently had a "Stock petcock issue that flooded my box as well.
since you have the Raptor a negative air leak is my guess if it's not the float.

Vers, I totally respect your opinion and am wondering how oil would get in the mix?

Anyway mojo, you should probably listen to Vers and Serow and just take Vers' edited version of my original post.  :'(

Puff,...
When a float sticks,.. the engine floods.... eventually, gravity leads this fuel downward into the crankcase... which increases the volume to the point  of spitting it out the crankcase vent tube... into the airbox...
This is how a fuel leak makes an oily, gas mess in the airbox...

Once you fix the cause... you need to clean out the airbox and filter,... and if it was bad enough (too much fuel to evaporate)... you'll need to change the oil...

I should have mentioned the need to change the oil...
It will, mostly evaporate.... if not from sitting, once the heat of running happens... but, it's best to get clean oil in there...

Us oldsters have explained these things many times,... and we, meaning I, can get lazy.... and leave parts out...
That is why I appreciate comments from fresh voices...

Anyway... the problem is in the floatbowl... either floats are sticking or float needle is leaking...
Once you fix it... it would be safe to change the oil... as it is most likely contaminated by the leaking fuel...
I know it's nasty news....and a PIA... but, these things can happen to any carbed engine...
Good news is,... you caught it...
...

You MITE need to replace the needle, look at it first. If the pointy cone at the end isnt flat on the sides, if it has a groove going around, then, new one,, Otherwise, open & clean,,everything in the bowl,,make sure the floats arent sinking,,if theyre not floating, then theyll let the valve stay open,

And, in my opinion, changing the oil is NOT an option.  It is a MUST DO.
That crankcase is suppose to have oil in it, not gasoline.
You risk damaging bearings, cylinder wall, piston, etc.

1. Drain all the old oil "aggressively".  
 Drain, tilt bike around with drain open, let it drain some more, repeat.

2. Put in a quart of oil or so.
3. Pull the spark plug.
4. Squirt a bit of oil in the spark plug hole
5. Spin the engine with the starter (spark plug is still OUT)
6. Tip the bike around a bit to move the oil around.
Repeat 5 and 6 a few times.
7. Toss the oil filter, toss the air filter.  Replace with new.
8. Drain the oil one more time.
9. Put in spark plug.  Fill with 2 quarts oil.
Done.

youzguyz wrote on 06/16/14 at 05:32:15:


+1. I've had that a couple times on different Suzukis. Needle and seat were both fine, just the O ring around the seat had failed.

I don't get a real strong gas smell from the oil in the airbox, but I KNOW I got gas in my crankcase because the "oil" level in the sight window is so high and of course, the oil is overflowing into the airbox..soo....all the extra "oil" must be gas..
I'll definitely use youzguyz advice in changing the oil out aggressively.
I ordered a kit with orings, gasket, seat and needle from ebay, so hopefully I can start on it this weekend.
Meantime, I drained the airbox puke tube and switched off the petcock.
Thanks again for the great help!