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Reply #15 - 07/14/14 at 14:21:06
 
In Mn, a, ‘Permit To Carry”, is just that.
A handgun can be, concealed, or open.
Or, one could, ‘carry’ a long gun.    (Never seen that happen here)

A number of years ago, a person was,
‘caring a handgun’, concealed, got out of his car,
at a mart mart, a big gust of wind blew, flipping open his coat,
a person saw the gun, called the cops, and, “Attempted”, to charge him,
for, ‘Brandishing’ a firearm.

Real big news, as the cops, went to the store,
and he was pointed out, by the person, who said he was, ‘brandishing’.
And they drew, their guns, cuffed him, and hauled him away.

A week later, on page 10C, in about 1” of, ’news’.
It was stated, the,  ‘undignified suspect’ had a permit, and was not, ‘brandishing’.

So, people don’t know the, law. Hard to educate them.
But people, that are, ‘Afraid’, of a firearm.
Take them out, show them, let them play.

99% of the cases, they will see, (that for some people)
putting little holes in a piece of paper,
and seeing how close one can get them.

Provides the same entrainment  factor, (for some people)
As hitting a tightly wound object, that has a plastic coating on it,
with a stick, and counting how many times they hit it,
until it falls into a little 4” hole in the ground !
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Reply #16 - 07/14/14 at 16:14:04
 
I don't think many people are afraid of guns, its just that when you see one in a place other than a range or in a hunting situation, you really do wonder why is that person carrying and IS HE A LOONEY???
Probably not, but what if he is....
One has to congratulate the gum lobby, getting whatever the number of guns per person in the US to really  fantastic hights.  As seen in Syria, where everyone owns a variant of the AK 47..if everyone carries a gun, the bad guys will stop. OH, well, maybe if they read the NRA pamphlets, they will get the message. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #17 - 07/14/14 at 18:20:21
 
I've been supporting the gum lobby since I was a kid!
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Reply #18 - 07/15/14 at 09:49:38
 
MnSpring wrote on 07/14/14 at 14:21:06:
Real big news, as the cops, went to the store,
and he was pointed out, by the person, who said he was, ‘brandishing’.
And they drew, their guns, cuffed him, and hauled him away.


The big failure here was the cops lack of getting an accurate report.
They obviously had access to the witness and failed to get the facts.
Or the witness was so sh!tless that even the cops with guns further colored his testimony.
Or questioned the "perp" at the scene.
simple questions that could have been asked...
was the gun out of the holster?
do you have a permit?
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Reply #19 - 07/15/14 at 10:38:49
 
... The big failure here was the cops lack of getting an accurate report.  They obviously had access to the witness and failed to get the facts.  Or the witness was so sh!tless that even the cops with guns further colored his testimony.  Or questioned the "perp" at the scene.  simple questions that could have been asked...  was the gun out of the holster?  do you have a permit? ...

A-Yep, that sure would have been the, 'Logical', thing to do.   Grin

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"Logic/Police", go together the same as, "meat/potatoes"
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Reply #20 - 07/18/14 at 07:19:16
 
people saved by guns :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnL05eLaTjQ

.......on the other hand maybe you could protect lives with a "Gun Free Zone":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozJTenNzUKM
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Reply #21 - 08/02/14 at 10:17:49
 
I don't care if the people around me buy their guns. I don't like drunk hunters running around. I don't like somebody down the road shooting what sounds like a machine gun every once in a while.
I don't like to see guns when I go to town- leave them home or in your vehicle.
Conceal and carry- no thanks. around here it is just a paranoid person hoping for an opportunity to play hero games.
Swat teams- we did better before 911 when we didn't have swat teams and para-military police.
A tool (gun) is only as good as the person using it - that says it all.
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Reply #22 - 08/04/14 at 15:41:56
 
No such thing as "drunk hunters". Hunters don't mix guns and booze, only slobs do that. Irresponsible, usually city based slobs.

I keep hoping that the governor of TN will crowbar his head out of his behind and allow this state to return to constitutional carry. We just made number one (again) most violent state based on FBI crime statistics. ALL of that is courtesy of the urban areas and their accompanying bipedal filth (which knows no color limits). If you can legally carry a gun, do so. If you can't legally carry a gun, don't. I can legally carry in my vehicle or on my property and do so, every day. I will not do a farm inspection w/o one or two sidearms and quite often a loaded rifle or shotgun. Why you ask? Wildlife and poachers (of fish, game and medicinal plants), druggies...

I have a backhoe, hungry coyotes and hungry snapping turtles. Come to my place raising hell and you'll never leave...
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Reply #23 - 08/04/14 at 19:11:09
 
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I have a backhoe, hungry coyotes and hungry snapping turtles. Come to my place raising hell and you'll never leave...


I am unable to post the video in the link where you can play it in the post itself.  Can someone let me know what I'm doing wrong?

This is a scene from Snatch:  "Always beware of a pig farmer"



https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2xUynRdzzsM#t=7
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Reply #24 - 08/05/14 at 08:43:52
 
WD wrote on 08/04/14 at 15:41:56:

...  Hunters don't mix guns and booze, only slobs do that. Irresponsible, usually city based slobs...
... I have a backhoe, hungry coyotes and hungry snapping turtles. Come to my place raising hell and you'll never leave...


Ay-Yep ! 'Hunters, do  NOT, shoot signs, Eagles, drink, (when hunting/shooting), etc.  
Only DFI   'slobs', do that.
And, Oh Yea, don't be coming down my drive, in a rusted out little pickup,
with a rusty freezer in the bed, trying to 'sell' me, "fresh Grin fish",
while your buddy looks over my pole shed to see what is inside.

Have to comment on: "...I don't like somebody down the road shooting what sounds like a machine gun every once in a while. .."

Maybe, 'they',  don't like the sound of, 'Your',  Motorcycle driving down the road every once and a while.

"...I don't like to see guns when I go to town- leave them home or in your vehicle..."

So if you walk into a store, in town, and see a fire extinguisher, on the wall, that would also be something, 'you' don't like?

"...Conceal and carry- no thanks. around here it is just a paranoid person hoping for an opportunity to play hero games. ..."

Nop, NOT the case. Not at all.
In EVERY case, where the State has upheld the Constitution, crime had gone DOWN.
In EVERY State, where where your Freedom, has been curtailed, the crime rate is UP.  

Pigs:  Cheesy  Watch, 'Deadwood', A cable series about Deadwood ND,
before it was a State.


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Reply #25 - 08/05/14 at 10:32:28
 
Good post mnspring.. Im tired of correcting faulty thinking for the weak minded,, ya done good..
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Reply #26 - 08/07/14 at 10:50:46
 
Faulty thinking - I like that!
Might look like faulty thinking if you have slugs on the brain!

It is live and let live. There is not a constitutional right to be "loved" because you went and bought yourself a gun! Smiley
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Reply #27 - 08/08/14 at 15:57:46
 
tcreeley wrote on 08/07/14 at 10:50:46:
 ... There is not a constitutional right to be "loved" because you went and bought yourself a gun! Smiley


Absolutely, not a question about it.

BUT,  what is the reason, 'some' people, Hate, people,
Just because they own/bought a gun?

I, do  NOT, Like  Golf, Soccer, Cricket,
does that mean I HATE, the people that do ??????

NO


I like to see how close together I can make little holes in a piece of paper.
How does that make, ME, bad?

I Carry a gun (Have Permit),  No One knows I have it.
How does that make, ME, bad ?

I, 'hunt'. I eat what I harvest, (With a License),
How does that make me bad?

I also fish, (With a License), does that also make me, bad?

I have a Motorcycle, I drive down the road,
if someone sees me, and does not like motorcycles,
I am guessing, that, 'also', makes me a 'bad' person.



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Reply #28 - 08/09/14 at 04:52:30
 
MnSpring wrote on 08/08/14 at 15:57:46:
tcreeley wrote on 08/07/14 at 10:50:46:
 ... There is not a constitutional right to be "loved" because you went and bought yourself a gun! Smiley

I Carry a gun (Have Permit),  No One knows I have it.


I know you have it.


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Reply #29 - 08/09/14 at 17:44:40
 
Paraquat wrote on 08/09/14 at 04:52:30:
I know you have it.  --Steve


LLOLOLLO,   Shhhh,  don’t say anything,
Just you and me, OK.   Wink

Case in point, a few years ago Kerry was running.
It was start day of the County Fair, and my turn to sit in a booth.

As I got their early, the building was still locked, 100 yards away was the Administration building,
I walked in, and asked for the key, Twyla gave it to me,
went back, and just unlocked both doors, then took it back.
After a short sojourn with Twyla, (who is easy to look at), and discussing this and that.
When I got back, a Demo/Kerry booth was setting up outside.
(The doors are wide, and designed to fold back and be fastened against the building)
The gal, already had a great deal of stuff un-loaded,
Tent, Big ‘balloon/helium’, tanks, and tables etc, already unloaded, and placed so that one door could NOT, be attached to the outside of the building.
I Explained the situation, and as I had little to do, to prepare my booth for the day, (did it the day before).
I said: “I will help".

She was very nice, (and also very easy to look at), So we set everything out, folded the door back, then set everything back in place where she wanted it. All the time she was touting the benefits of Kerry.  When we were done, only 15-20 min, she said: ’Now make sure you vote for Kerry”.

I told her, I would not, because their are several issues in which we disagree on. She said: “What”.
I told her Kerry did not uphold several parts of the Constitution, and I feel strongly about the 2nd Amendment.  
She was adamant: “Kerry certainly believes in the rights of, ‘good’ people, to own a ‘hunting’, gun”.

I looked at her, and asked: “We have only seen each other, only talked to each other, did a little job together, for only  about 20 min, do you think I am a, ‘good’ people”.  She went on, and on, and on, about she was a Excellent Judge of character, and of course, She considered me, ‘good’ people.  After she took a breath, I told her:  “Well  as to the, 2nd Amendment  and the State of Minn, I am caring a loaded, concealed  handgun. No one will ever see it, I don’t expect to use it, but I have it, Just in Case”.

(To this point, She was very pleasant, she and I laughed and joked about many things)

Her mouth dropped open, her eyes went wide, and she turned away from me.
I shrugged, went into my booth, and prepared for the assault, of kids running by and grabbing candy.

About 3 hours later, I walked out to get a burger and a shake. She saw me, and, ’SLUNK” to the back of her booth.
When I came back 5 min later she did the same thing.

When my, shift was up two hours later, I again walked out, she saw me, and AGAIN, ’SLUNK”, to the back of the booth.

Apparently, her, opinion of me, as, ‘good people’, by interacting, doing that little work together,  and her personal opinion, did not fare above, what she was, ’told’, what someone is, ‘like’, that has a firearm.

So,  Shhhhus, don’t tell anyone. Just don’t want to ‘freak’, them out !
When they have been, ‘Told’, that ANYONE, that has a firearm, is a, ‘bad’ person.
REGARDLESS, of the FACTS !

Oh, Wait, I guess  the sticker of a, ‘GUN’, I have on the back of my helmet,
and the, ’sticker’ (I sell), which is on the MC’s, Cages, house, office,  kinna gives it away!     Grin
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