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S-P Serious Thumper Offline Back in the saddle again Posts: 816 Phoenix, AZ Gender:	Re: HELP!! Will not run, does crank, has spark Reply #15 - 06/11/14 at 17:09:15 shovelbum87 wrote on 06/11/14 at 17:07:18: It should have fired on starting fluid though, I still will pull the filter and see if that changes anything Possibly... I'd try pulling the filter and starter fluid again. Eliminate both gas starvation and flooding. Are you using the choke?
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Steddy58 Full Member Offline Ooops I did it again Posts: 240 Liverpool UK Gender:	Re: HELP!! Will not run, does crank, has spark Reply #16 - 06/11/14 at 17:17:34 I will have to consult my oracle on this one shovelbum87 more thinking power needed
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shovelbum87 Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 158 New Hampshire Gender:	Re: HELP!! Will not run, does crank, has spark Reply #17 - 06/11/14 at 17:19:30 I have tried with and without choke
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28660 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: HELP!! Will not run, does crank, has spark Reply #18 - 06/11/14 at 17:38:31 Not that it's the problem, but... bypass both the clutch and sidestand cut-outs... just to be sure... You can reconnect once you get it figured out if you want...
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Reply #19 - 06/11/14 at 17:47:36

Just throwing this out there. If your battery is not spinning it over real good then you may not be making the compression you need to be able to fire. Spraying that starter fluid right into the carburetor throat sure seems like it should have sputtered popped backfired something. I had a vs1400 that was similar to your issue. I had to choke it all the way till it fired then it would die, then choke off and it would fire but just barely and after a couple minutes at idle it would then run perfect but very very difficult to initially start. I also replaced the starter relay. Even though I was getting a good solid 12 volts to the relay coil, the heavy duty relay contacts were so worn and pitted I guess that they wouldn't energize the starter.

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Reply #20 - 06/11/14 at 18:06:45

Serowbot wrote on 06/11/14 at 17:38:31:

Not that it's the problem, but... bypass both the clutch and sidestand cut-outs... just to be sure...
You can reconnect once you get it figured out if you want...

Both are bypassed, anyone thinking igniter box? Could it have been shorted out when the stator wires crossed? Also slightly unusual but when it was running I took a reading of juice going back to the batt at 15.7 should I be concerned at that I suck at electrical work

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28660 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: HELP!! Will not run, does crank, has spark Reply #21 - 06/11/14 at 18:13:53 I think that's too high... 14.4v is where it should be... Over 14.7 will start causing problems... I think that points to a rectifier problem...
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shovelbum87 Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 158 New Hampshire Gender:	Re: HELP!! Will not run, does crank, has spark Reply #22 - 06/11/14 at 18:15:17 Tried two different rectifiers bot read the same within .2v
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28660 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: HELP!! Will not run, does crank, has spark Reply #23 - 06/11/14 at 18:26:42 That's odd,.. I was told that reading over 15v means it's dying... Is your battery stone dead?... ... Rectifier voltage will be higher going to a dead battery, but I still don't think it should be over 15v...
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Reply #24 - 06/11/14 at 19:02:53

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, anyone thinking igniter box?

If it was a bad igniter I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be getting a spark.

Maybe the decompression solenoid is stuck and the cable is pulling on the lever. Or maybe the cable is just dry/frayed and is stuck. If it's holding the exhaust valves open the bike won't start.

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: HELP!! Will not run, does crank, has spark Reply #25 - 06/11/14 at 19:13:32 Your 1st problem is the battery, get a new 1.
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Re: HELP!! Will not run, does crank, has spark
Reply #26 - 06/11/14 at 19:21:33

verslagen1 wrote on 06/11/14 at 19:13:32:

Your 1st problem is the battery, get a new 1.

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battery isn't holding a charge I think, grab a battery put it in and now all she does is crank and crank and crank, will not fire. Has spark, has fuel and I am at a loss of what the heck ails her.

I think she already did that.

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: HELP!! Will not run, does crank, has spark Reply #27 - 06/11/14 at 19:25:15 OK didn't see that. I think it is flooded.
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Seaweednh Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 132 Newbury, MA Gender:	Re: HELP!! Will not run, does crank, has spark Reply #28 - 06/11/14 at 19:33:38 If you have good fuel, compression and a good spark, I would check the timing, clean out the fuel bowl and also blow out the jets with an air gun.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: HELP!! Will not run, does crank, has spark Reply #29 - 06/11/14 at 21:16:52 Seaweednh wrote on 06/11/14 at 19:33:38: I would check the timing. loaded question... how do check the timing? answer... you can't, either it sparks at the right time or it don't.
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