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Go Pro?
06/04/14 at 05:13:33

I am tempted to get a GoPro....but I am most likely to go used. It appears a lot of these cameras are purchased for projects that require mulitple cameras - then sold after the project is over. Also a lot of folks buy them....and after a while the novelty wears off, and I am likely to fit into that group.

I am tempted to go with the Black Edition that has the remote. I am also most likely to do a purchase on eBay and use PayPal - so that the Buyer Protection will be in place.

Anyone know anything about these cameras that can provide helpful insight?

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Re: Go Pro?
Reply #1 - 06/04/14 at 06:47:40

Anyone know anything about these cameras that can provide helpful insight?

Nope,, BUT,, I am usually good for at LEAST a wiseass comment..

I agree w/ the whole Save $$ Buy Used thing,, If I ever get a hot tub, Ill try it that way.. I know Id get tired of it quickly.Well,, maybe not,, depends on who else is in it,, okay, Ill get tired of it quickly, I KNOW,, ooh well,,

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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18138 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: Go Pro? Reply #2 - 06/04/14 at 06:52:01 Ooooh! The GoPro....and.....Hot Tub could be a good combination. Once again.....depends on who is in it!
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Re: Go Pro?
Reply #3 - 06/04/14 at 06:54:04

Dave,
I don't have the Black, but have the Hero. The down sides are that you can't frame the shot on the Hero, there is no preview screen. You need to learn by experience how to aim the thing in the mount. Also, the menu is not very intuitive. The mounts are expensive and don't forget a large SD card, I have a 32GB that will hold a fair number of hours of video.

Now the plus. I have used it mounted to both the top and side of my helmet. No noticeable drag and no vibrations. Great waterproof case. Really good video options with different aspect ratios, full video, still shots, rapid shots, etc. About a 2 1/2 hour battery life. Lots of strange looks from the pedestrians and occasional questions conversation at fuel stops.

Good hunting and keep us posted

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Reply #4 - 06/04/14 at 08:05:33

Lots of options in the action cam market nowadays...
sj1000 is a good low buck choice... less than $100...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QppW_0_DuiE
Browse youtube a bit before you decide...

I have the original GoPro... quality is not up to modern standards... but, I can't justify buying a replacement... so, I just use my point and shoot still camera...

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gdrseeker Senior Member Offline Addicted!! Posts: 365 Carson Valley NV	Re: Go Pro? Reply #5 - 06/05/14 at 01:50:42 you can frame the shot on the hero if you buy that add on LCD screen. I have one and I have used it for underwater scuba diving. I like it alot, but the new ones are better. I had to buy an aftermarket lense because back then the lense didn't allow for under water without distortion. The new lense does.
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Re: Go Pro?
Reply #6 - 06/05/14 at 05:58:21

Go-pro 2 and 3 have the capability to link with your cell phone (go to the site and download the android or iphone app) so you can see what angles are and what the pro see's. Get a mike, the dang thing gets noisy (which is why most of the videos shot by new users have music patched in)...also the remote is VERY handy if you mount it on the bar clutch side. The best setups I have seen are the goofy looking ones...well you look goofy, not the video. On the top of the helmet, side of the helmet, or below your chin. And don't think the suction cup is going to hold the dang thing on....well all the time anyway. If you mount with the suction cup I would devise a glued on or clipped on safety cord so if the cup looses suction at least the pro won't go bouncing along the pavement.
And yes ebay has buyer protection... but that doesn't protect you from someone who snags up all those items cheaply (because they don't work or don't have all the parts), most of them have never used one and don't even know if they work.
But I have also been looking on ebay for one... I am going with one with all the accessories and extra battery packs if they have them....but... i'm not going to bid more than $150 bucks.... I have bid 3 times so far...but each set seems to pull in the price of a new one...so no luck for me so far.... LOL, so if you are bidding on what looks like a good set...bid $151.00 and you will beat me!

Read up on them..... Wikipedia or somesuch or just review the search engine replys....

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Reply #7 - 06/07/14 at 11:24:33

Just FYI,... I just ordered an SJ1000...for around $75.00...
HD quality is near GoPro3,... audio is actually better,...
... and I don't like the menu system on GoPro's...
The GoPro's do have a wifi mode that allows you to view on whatever gadget you want... but, I prefer the more self contained built-in screen on the SJ1000...(one less thing to be damaged,stolen, or fall off, when riding)...
EDIT...PS, if you're thinking about getting an SJ1000,.. be sure to get the 140 degree lens... some have a 90"...

Some comparisons..

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Re: Go Pro?
Reply #9 - 06/09/14 at 06:55:53

I don't plan on becoming a full time camera user and YouTube contributor - so $ 75 seems fine if it works well.

Keep us posted on the SJ1000 issue Serowbot.

I just spent money on helmet radios so the wife and I can talk to each other while riding....I will post a thread on that when they arrive and I have had a while to figure them out. They can use Bluetooth to receive calls from your phone, GPS instructions, etc.

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Re: Go Pro?
Reply #10 - 06/09/14 at 07:32:27

My 2 cents.

I am a professional videographer and I will just say, GoPro is the best action sports camera out there.

Video capability aside. The biggest draw for me is the fact that there is little digital wobble going on which makes your footage look like its in a jello world.

The official term of this phenomenon is Rolling shutter. This image here shows the effect: http://www.ptgrey.com/support/kb/data/1-1-5_1.jpg
What essentially happens is that the sensor or "film" captures data line by line, but by the time it gets to the bottom the targets action would have progressed faster.

On the quality end, well it does do 4k video at lower frame rates and also high frame rates (slow mo) for lower usable resolutions.

The bad end of the camera is its battery life. I purchased Wasabi branded batteries to swap in and out.

What I use it for as a motorcyclist is essentially for my safety. It is a dash cam for myself. I have it mounted at the top of my helmet. I see too many dingbats doing stupid things on the road, id rather have evidence if any unfortunate events transpire.

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Reply #11 - 06/09/14 at 09:14:22

Rolling shutter is a problem with all action cams... because they all use cmos sensors... GoPro included...
The reason Gopro's don't show it as much as others is they use a very wide angle 170' lens...

It shows up most, from hard vibration... that's why helmet mount usually looks better than handlebar mount, etc...
The trick is to make a secure mount but have some rubber cushioning...

The bad thing about wide angle len's, particularly for motorcycles is they make curvy roads look fairly straight... and speeds look slow...
(I hate that.. you can be taking a fairly tight turn at good speed and it looks leisurely)...

You can't really win,.. unless you use a bulky ccd camera and an electronically gimbaled mount...
Some cams have "digital stabilization"... but that makes things look worse if you're moving fast... it's only good for walking and such...

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Here's an example of rolling shutter from a GoPro camera

EDIT...PS, if you're thinking about getting an SJ1000,.. be sure to get the 140 degree lens... some have a 90"...

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Reply #13 - 06/10/14 at 17:31:05

3.56oz... they are relatively heavy because they have a pretty big 1050mAh battery... (lots of lighter options out there)...
http://www.dx.com/p/sj1000-5mp-cmos-1080p-hd-140-degree-30m-waterproof-sports...

Bad news fer' me.. I ordered from FoxOffer,.. before finding out they switched to a 90' lens...
Pffft!... (No worries... I can buy a wide lens for $8 and install it myself)...

Anyway... I think the one's with the 5 button case are 140mm...
3 button case 90'...

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Re: Go Pro?
Reply #14 - 06/17/14 at 11:39:34

Kids got me a gopro. The battery life is crap. Every time I go to use it the bat's low. Strapped it on a cattoon for a four day wilderness raft tip. Drift boat wrecked and we rescued a man face down in the cold water, boat left for river pirates. Hit the go button to catch some of the action and it's dead. If It set on my desk "off" for a week it looses 1/3 of it's bat life.

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