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06/03/14 at 19:03:16
 
Hey guys,.

last night my clutch started slipping and is progressively getting worse. I noticed it as I accelerated in 3rd to overtake a car going to work. then on the way home the slipping got worse in 3rd gear. today as I rode to work it now slips in 2nd, 3rd and 4th gear so I cant accelerate hard anymore. I have been doing a wee research on here and it seems as tho its hard to burn out the savage wet clutch and the most common problem i have seen is oil. My question is. I have been using this oil for over 6000kms and never had this problem. so is it still possible that it is the oil? Cheers.
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Reply #2 - 06/03/14 at 19:14:15
 
The clutch lever on the handlebar should have a little freeplay. That can be adjusted at the perch.

Make sure it's not the cable that's sticking. Also, check to make sure the lever on the clutch cover is clean and free of obstructions (twigs, dirt, bird feathers).
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Reply #3 - 06/03/14 at 19:24:18
 
oh and another thing i forgot to mention is when I rode it home lastnight I noticed the clutch lever would slowly move back to its original position after I squeezed it to change gears. so by the end of the ride I was forcing it back out after changing gears.  I ride my bike 140km almost everyday and this is a new problem. I woke up early this morning and attempted to adjust the lever so it wouldnt retract so slow. which I did successfully but I foolishly didnt really know what I was doing.
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Reply #4 - 06/03/14 at 19:28:04
 
1st2know wrote on 06/03/14 at 19:14:15:
The clutch lever on the handlebar should have a little freeplay. That can be adjusted at the perch.

Make sure it's not the cable that's sticking. Also, check to make sure the lever on the clutch cover is clean and free of obstructions (twigs, dirt, bird feathers).


Yes the cable was sticking. I attempted to fix the sticking this morning but without any real knowledge of what or why I was doing it. I have time off tomorrow so I will have a better look at it. I just adjusted it to take out the sticking but now it seems as tho the slipping is worse.
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Reply #5 - 06/03/14 at 21:06:52
 
If the clutch cable is coming back slowly that's likely why ur clutch is slipping you may be able to free it up by putting some motor oil and or penetrating oil on the cable and try to work it through  and down where the clutch cable is connected to the engine. keep adding some lube to the cable and keep pulling the lever in/out till it frees up. There are cable lubing thingies you can get as well http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/motorcycle/Cable%20Lubricator If its still stiff after trying that then  i would replace the clutch cable. BTW what type of Oil are you using you should use  the recommended oils here  ...http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1344471565
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Reply #6 - 06/03/14 at 23:09:32
 
doh13 wrote on 06/03/14 at 21:06:52:
If the clutch cable is coming back slowly that's likely why ur clutch is slipping you may be able to free it up by putting some motor oil and or penetrating oil on the cable and try to work it through  and down where the clutch cable is connected to the engine. keep adding some lube to the cable and keep pulling the lever in/out till it frees up. There are cable lubing thingies you can get as well http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/motorcycle/Cable%20Lubricator If its still stiff after trying that then  i would replace the clutch cable. BTW what type of Oil are you using you should use  the recommended oils here  ...http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1344471565



Thanks I'll have a looksy tomorrow. Ive been using Castrol Active 4T. I remember researching oils before i did an oil and filter change. Struggled to find the recommended ones from that link, well here in New Zealand I struggled. Oils been in there a while now and havent had any problems for a few thousand Kms at the very least. Im hoping its something simple like the cable.
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Re: slipping clutch
Reply #7 - 06/03/14 at 23:35:59
 
Tiktok423 wrote on 06/03/14 at 23:09:32:
Thanks I'll have a looksy tomorrow. Ive been using Castrol Active 4T.


If that is the same garbage marketed as Castrol Actevo in the USA, get it out of there right now. I've been in and out of the bike business for a long time, and the oil reps that would come to the shops said DO NOT use it in aircooled machines, period.  Liquid cooled, wet clutch, self adjusting or shimmed valves, no problem...

And of course, using it in liquid cooled, shimmed valve wet clutch equipped machines gives you the same slipping/grabbing clutch, noisy top end, missed shifts, accelerated engine wear as using it in aircooled machines. We've had great success with it, have blown up a couple dozen bikes because the customers insisted on using Actevo, Spectro, etc.
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Reply #8 - 06/03/14 at 23:53:31
 
Tictok, try PMing Paul Marshall in Carterton or Savage Bob in Christchurch to see what oil they use, I believe Paul Marshall used a Penrite  oil with success and that is avaidable at Super cheap or Repco. Are you still in Wellsford area?
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Reply #9 - 06/04/14 at 13:59:49
 

If that is the same garbage marketed as Castrol Actevo in the USA, get it out of there right now. I've been in and out of the bike business for a long time, and the oil reps that would come to the shops said DO NOT use it in aircooled machines, period.  Liquid cooled, wet clutch, self adjusting or shimmed valves, no problem...

And of course, using it in liquid cooled, shimmed valve wet clutch equipped machines gives you the same slipping/grabbing clutch, noisy top end, missed shifts, accelerated engine wear as using it in aircooled machines. We've had great success with it, have blown up a couple dozen bikes because the customers insisted on using Actevo, Spectro, etc. [/quote]


If it is the same garbage. Would it take this long for it to start slipping? Its honestly been way to long since my last oil change, and I find it strange that it just started happening now. More than 5000kms later on the same oil and it starts slipping now? Or is that normal? Thanks tho I will look at getting a better oil for her when I do my next oil change. Which could be ASAP anyways. Thank you
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Reply #10 - 06/04/14 at 14:02:16
 
jcstokes wrote on 06/03/14 at 23:53:31:
Tictok, try PMing Paul Marshall in Carterton or Savage Bob in Christchurch to see what oil they use, I believe Paul Marshall used a Penrite  oil with success and that is avaidable at Super cheap or Repco. Are you still in Wellsford area?



Yup still in wellsford. And thank you I will look out for penrite as there is a super cheap in the next town. Thanks.
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Reply #11 - 06/05/14 at 23:04:56
 
All sorted now thanks guys.

ended up just being the cable at the lever. I adjusted to the recommended according to the clymer and boom. no more slipping. thanks
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