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Reply #30 - 04/22/14 at 04:23:38
 


“The Benghazi cover up.”

Do your own research.
The truth about the scandal is that there never was a scandal, and certainly not on the part of the Obama administration.

“The IRS targeting of Conservative 531s.”

Along with equal or more liberal 531’s targeted.

“The refusal of the DOJ to investigate and prosecute documented cases of voter fraud.”

You’ve got to be kidding. After extensive investigations over years, 47 documented cases of voter fraud.



As has been said many times before, you're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts. The items above are facts, particularly the IRS targeting of conservative organizations which you say the opposite occurred. I'd be interested to see where that info came from......
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Reply #31 - 04/22/14 at 06:17:05
 
Editors note: The following has not yet been independently confirmed by Intelllihub News, but we are working on it. If you are in Las Vegas and can confirm or deny this YouTuber’s video please contact us. Please check back for updates.

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According to the video, “[...] there are more agents than can be counted.”

In fact, an excerpt posted on 2127news.net describes the scene, pointing out how “hotels are being filled with Federal Agents, Rangers and FBI arriving in unmarked vehicles. Most of the vehicles are white, some are black. They are being parked in secure areas and are under lock and key and some are in back parking as well. So no one can nosing around. Never mind those who may be flying in. They’re obviously building up for something.”

http://intellihub.com/recon-federal-agents-rangers-f-b-now-staging-hundreds-v...

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Reply #32 - 04/22/14 at 08:36:34
 
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The contention that the POTUS has the authority, which he has already exercised, to order the murder of a US citizen without any sort of due process - you know - just blow his ass up with a missile  fired from a Predator”.


Oh please, an overseas avowed enemy terrorist planning terrorists attracts on US soil? Why don’t you set up a defense fund for the enemies of America? [/quote]

Read this:
Yeah, I know this link is from fox, but I'm sure the other news outlets are covering it. No doubt you can find one more to your liking.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/21/federal-court-obama-administration...

Pay particular attention to the last paragraph. The legal justification for this is not as clear cut as you seem to think it is. ie. quite possibly criminal activity on the part of the POTUS. Which is all I alleged in my previous post.

The recent amendments to the NDAA allow some pretty wide latitude for the administration to decide who might be a "domestic terrorist" and allows such people to be handled like enemy combatants - regardless of whether their activities take place on foreign or American soil. It's not too far of a stretch to imagine that that power could be used against political enemies instead of legitimate threats to national security. That could someday result in a hellfire into the back window of someones SUV right here in the good old USA.


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Reply #33 - 04/22/14 at 09:20:18
 
I tried arguing this when activists were described as "Eco-terrorists".

If you photographed a cow being mishandled you be labeled as such.


Paraquat wrote on 10/04/13 at 06:18:10:
I think you're taking me too literally, Midnight.

I'm saying the government has created blanket terms to define who is and is not a terrorist.

Take for example the ag gag I posted about previously:
Terrorists forfeit their rights.
Suspension of Habeas Corupus etc.
But how do you define a terrorist?
A terrorist is someone you point at and say "s/he's a terrorist".
With such loosey goosey definitions you could suspend anyone's rights and indefinitely detain them, nearly at will with no repercussions because there is no trial.

Now, the ag gag. A cease of agricultural discussions.
An individual who photographs the inhumane treatment of animals is now labeled as an "ecological terrorist". There's the magic word.
So the peace, love, tranquility beatnik hippie who was merely photographing an animal mill is now subject to indefinite detainment, suspension of rights, etc.


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Reply #34 - 04/23/14 at 06:44:40
 
North Country Girl wrote on 04/20/14 at 18:36:53:
“Sorry, false.. nobody pointed guns at law enforcement.. what is your news source?”

Google is your friend sir, there are many photos (proudly taken by the lawless loons) showing them behind cement barriers with their sniper weapons locked and loaded trained on law enforcement.  


“A law, repugnant to the Constitution, is no law at all”

And a citizen denying the authority of the United States government, and the legitimacy of the duly elected president of the United States of America, cannot hide behind the Constitution to justify their criminality.

“How fascinating would it be if 3 or 4 states stopped allowing certain federal agencies to have final say in their state.”

This issue has been addressed time and again sir, from the war of southern treason, to the governor of Alabama standing in the door of a school shouting: Segregation Now! Segregation Forever! It doesn’t pass the smell test.


I do have to say North, that I am surprised at this statement. You are certainly entitled to your opinion on the war of Northern Aggression, but I have to say thats the first I ever heard it called that.  

As to the OP and the re-start. I siad before, I was not sure that Bundy was right, but I was dern sure the BLM was wrong in their application.
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Reply #35 - 04/23/14 at 10:34:10
 
North Country Girl wrote on 04/21/14 at 20:19:16:
“The IRS targeting of Conservative 531s.”

Along with equal or more liberal 531’s targeted.


Srinath!! It is you!! I knew it!! Is North Country a play on North Carolina? Did you forget your login?
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Reply #36 - 04/23/14 at 18:29:39
 
“The war of southern treason.”

‘The war of northern aggression”

I would say sir that attitudes change with latitude.  
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Reply #37 - 04/24/14 at 10:39:44
 
North Country Girl wrote on 04/23/14 at 18:29:39:
“The war of southern treason.”

‘The war of northern aggression”

I would say sir that attitudes change with latitude.  


Indeed you are correct sir. Though, some conveyance of such attitudes are more inflammatory than they are informing. But I guess it is refreshing to see someone willing to vocalize their disdane for the southern states. Generally such ill-will is done with casualness as to be apologized for (after the fact).
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Reply #38 - 04/24/14 at 11:20:05
 
Really? You guys really think that was ABOUT slavery? Lincoln himself stated that he didnt care if slavery was kept or destroyed. There were economic things being done to the south that caused them to be angry.,Im NOT fighting this fight again,, Ive been down this road at least twice. Not doin it again, I suggest people go looking for reasons other than slavery. & WHEN was the Emancipation Proclamation? IF the war was about slavery, wouldnt that have been a founding document for the war?
Yet, its from Jan of 1863? War starts in 61? THINK a little//
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Reply #39 - 04/24/14 at 14:02:34
 
thanks justin..
nobody I know up north believes the south committed treason, that opinion was just printed to upset folks on this thread.

anyone who thinks the civil war was about slavery or treason hasn't a brain cell in their head. Economics and one-sided legislation was the reason southern states were not permitted to peacefully secede.

Would not have such a powerful, arrogant, dysfunctional federal govt if this nation had two sets of unionized states. Competition is always good
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Reply #40 - 04/24/14 at 17:22:42
 
"no one who thinks the civil war was about slavery or treason hasn't a brain cell in their head."


What else would you call a rabble uprising of slave owning people determined to destroy the United States of America??

Sometimes I wish the USA would have let the south go. 150 years later the south is still a thorn in America’s side, sucking in more Federal dollars than they pay in taxes. They are welfare states of which the northern states are unfortunately obligated to pay their way.

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Reply #41 - 04/24/14 at 18:08:08
 
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Sometimes I wish the USA would have let the south go. 150 years later the south is still a thorn in America’s side, sucking in more Federal dollars than they pay in taxes. They are welfare states of which the northern states are unfortunately obligated to pay their way.


What happened to the universal bliss of socialism / progressivism?  “Love thy neighbor as thy self, no I'm my brother’s keeper”   (It Must Be So Tiring To Be Hateful  04/21/14 at 19:27:40)?  
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Reply #42 - 04/24/14 at 19:22:55
 
You tell me sir, I do not live in the south.
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Reply #43 - 04/24/14 at 19:53:52
 
Asking a question in the place of an answer without merit is merely superficial interlude.  So I ask again what happened to the universal bliss of socialism / progressivism?  You often speak of how appalling and “hateful” the right is because they do hot help people and are self-serving.   Then make a statement that these states do not comprise enough value to be part of the Union because they receive the government benefits.  Please elaborate….
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Reply #44 - 04/24/14 at 20:41:49
 
The record speaks for itself sir. I am gratified that you appreciate your government benefits.

As for the bliss of socialism / progressivism, that is yours to accept or reject.
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