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Suzukisavvy Full Member Offline You're Droolin, While I'm Spoolin Posts: 101 Nebraska, USA Gender:	Lower cruising RPM 04/14/14 at 12:22:55 How can i lower the rpm when going 60 mph? would the bike handle it? will it save gas? The bike im looking to do this on is a 1998 LS650. Can it work!? 8-)
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Lower cruising RPM Reply #1 - 04/14/14 at 12:52:18 What is your purpose for doing so?
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Suzukisavvy Full Member Offline You're Droolin, While I'm Spoolin Posts: 101 Nebraska, USA Gender:	Re: Lower cruising RPM Reply #2 - 04/14/14 at 13:14:51 less vibration and possibly better MPG and the max torque and max HP are at a higher speed
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Re: Lower cruising RPM
Reply #3 - 04/14/14 at 13:59:05

The only practical way to do what you want to do is covert the final drive from the belt to a chain. Then you can experiment with sprocket sizes to maybe get what you want. I don't think there is any way to make those adjustments with the belt and pulleys.

This link might help:

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1174239333

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oldNslow Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2683 Rochester, NY Gender:	Re: Lower cruising RPM Reply #4 - 04/14/14 at 14:01:02 Ryca also has a chain conversion but I don't know anything about what ratios are available.
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Re: Lower cruising RPM
Reply #6 - 04/14/14 at 14:56:30

Suzukisavvy wrote on 04/14/14 at 13:14:51:

less vibration and possibly better MPG and the max torque and max HP are at a higher speed Cool

You can do more with chain, but you'll add a lot of maintenance.

We've found a Kawa pulley you can modify, but it's not the easiest mod to do.
You can get a taller tire, a shade over 26" in diameter is the biggest you can fit.

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Re: Lower cruising RPM
Reply #7 - 04/14/14 at 15:25:36

If you realllly want it.....and willing to work for it.....it can be done with a belt and a couple of Kawasaki pulleys. You have a choice of just doing the front pulley and dropping about 320 rpms at 60mph. You can also do both the front and back and drop a total of 476 rpms. On my bike I have done both pulleys and an 18" wheel, and I turn about 3,030 rpms at 60.

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1384949185

You have to have access to a milling machine or lathe with carbide cutting tools to do it well.

So far there are only two of us that have done this modification. MMRanch has probably logged the most miles to date....I am still fighting winter and our riding season has not yet begun and and snow is coming tonight. I have only ridden about 20 miles since doing the conversion.....and the gears are really tall. I think I am going to like it - but it is still a bit early to tell. I suggest you start with the front pulley if you want to keep the belt.....then do the back pulley next. Also if you are doing a Cafe' conversion the larger tire helps - however if you are doing the 18" wheel and the large front pulley, you have to modify the swing arm for clearance.

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Suzukisavvy Full Member Offline You're Droolin, While I'm Spoolin Posts: 101 Nebraska, USA Gender:	Re: Lower cruising RPM Reply #8 - 04/15/14 at 07:55:43 Its the stock tire on the back. Do you think i could get 17/43 sprockets off of ebay?
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Re: Lower cruising RPM
Reply #9 - 04/15/14 at 08:20:06

Suzukisavvy wrote on 04/15/14 at 07:55:43:

Its the stock tire on the back. Do you think i could get 17/43 sprockets off of ebay? Grin

Probably. I just checked the RYCA web site and you can also get 17 and 43 tooth sprockets from them. I don't have any idea if the prices are high or low though.

http://shop.rycamotors.com/front_sprocket_17tooth.html

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Re: Lower cruising RPM
Reply #10 - 04/15/14 at 08:31:53

Suzukisavvy wrote on 04/15/14 at 07:55:43:

Its the stock tire on the back. Do you think i could get 17/43 sprockets off of ebay? Grin

As long as you know what you need to buy, you can get it anywhere that those parts are available.

oldNslow provided you a link to the chain conversion thread....and they tell you what you need in that thread.
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1174239333

You just have to be certain you are ordering the correct parts....and that the pitch of the sprocket teeth matches the pitch of the chain you order. Front sprockets often have a fairly common hole for the countershaft - but can come in a lot of different chain pitches.

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Re: Lower cruising RPM
Reply #11 - 04/15/14 at 09:34:52

The stock rear wont last forever, slap a Dunlop on it. Theyre a little taller & correct the speedo pretty good & lower the rpm some,, mite be enough to make ya happy..save a ton O $$ & hassle if it does. & youll be riding more than wrenching AND be on a much better piece of rubber,,If not, well,, you can always do the chain or pulley swaps later.

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28662 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Lower cruising RPM Reply #12 - 04/15/14 at 10:12:18 Keep in mind,.. that a stock Savage is almost lugging at 50mph in 5th gear... It is very comfortable going 60mph... (if you gear up too much, I would recommend using 4th gear at 60mph)... Changing gearing will not make a Savage sound as lazy as a Harley.... ...these engines are different, and run at different rpm's...
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Lower cruising RPM Reply #13 - 04/15/14 at 10:16:24 & if someone wants that HD sound at idle & slows the idle down, its gonna ruin the head,,cuz the oil wont get to the cam right..
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Kris01 Serious Thumper Offline Eat, sleep, RIDE! Posts: 3767 Tennessee Gender:	Re: Lower cruising RPM Reply #14 - 04/15/14 at 17:50:24 I don't have any facts to support this, so take this with a grain of salt, but a single cylinder engine needs a few more RPMs than a twin in order to be happy. I guess you could say that the engine isn't over revving -- the rider is underestimating.
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