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Bike will not start and various other problems (Read 586 times)
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Re: Bike will not start and various other problems
Reply #15 -
04/21/14 at 22:00:00
Slight update: my friend was messing around with it tonight and after about an hour he said he got it to start. He said he had to pull the throttle full twist and if he took it off the charger it immediately died. Perhaps it's a battery issue afterall?
I'm heading over tomorrow or wednesday hopefully to try and work with it.
Edit: he said he used the starter fluid to get it working.
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04/21/14 at 22:15:26
started and running?
full throttle indicates flooding... what jets do you have installed?
yes, battery issue.
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04/21/14 at 23:42:38
It was running apparently but only if he kept the charger on.
The jets as far as I know are stock but I wouldn't know since I bought it used. I imagine they are stock though.
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04/22/14 at 20:00:20
Izzy wrote
on 04/21/14 at 23:42:38:
It was running apparently but only if he kept the charger on.
The jets as far as I know are stock but I wouldn't know since I bought it used. I imagine they are stock though.
When you jumped the bike with the car, was the car running? Not running, the average car battery puts out something like 13.8 to 14.something volts where a running car can put out upwards of 16 to 18 volts. The bike sounds like it wants to run but, the way I understand it, the Savage is unable to run on it's own without constant power where as a car can run off the alternator with no battery. My vote is the jump, if the car was running, burned a few things...
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Reply #19 -
05/07/14 at 18:04:22
I don't have any memory of starting the car but I honestly can't remember.
Sorry about the long wait before posting again. Did a lot of work on it though.
Okay so major update:
1. Pulled carb out and cleaned it out (it looked perfectly fine)
2. Drained tank and put 1.5 gallons of fresh fuel in
3. Bought a brand new battery for it
It's running about the exact same as it did before except now I don't need to keep it hooked up to the charger. The thing I have noticed is it required me to turn the throttle about half way for it to run, and there is no gas response once it's running (same rpms no matter how far back the throttle is pulled). It runs better with the choke out. Running on prime, reserve, or normal is all the same as far as I could tell.
I'm out of ideas again. Here's a video of it running now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ru7s-mSAkc&feature=youtu.be
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Reply #20 -
05/07/14 at 18:28:59
Looks like the slide is stuck.
Idle is way too low.
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05/07/14 at 18:36:25
What is a slide?
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05/07/14 at 19:07:43
Went back and reread whole thread slowly...old guy...
You say idles no matter how much you twist the throttle? does it return from twist on its own? can you twist it easier than normal?
The slide is the round tube coming down from the top in the middle, it has a needle valve inside, how exactly did you "clean" the carb?
looked at video.....
did you put a different vacuum line on it?
Does sound like a sticky tube.... just don't know everything you have done to it...besides what you put down...
Would the rectifier burn up on a jump and not be putting out enough voltage??
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05/07/14 at 20:17:26
You say idles no matter how much you twist the throttle? does it return from twist on its own? can you twist it easier than normal?
Yes, that's what it was running like with the throttle halfway open to all the way open. If I let go it died. It returns by itself and it twists as normal.
The slide is the round tube coming down from the top in the middle, it has a needle valve inside, how exactly did you "clean" the carb?
I took it out and basically just followed the instructions in one of the threads that was on here. Took the plastic/rubber float/slide thing off and then sprayed the rest of it down with carb cleaner. Does the slide need to be greased or anything? Maybe I got rid of too much grease?
looked at video.....
did you put a different vacuum line on it?
The original vacuum line cracked so I replaced the vacuum line with some vacuum hose from autozone.
Does sound like a sticky tube.... just don't know everything you have done to it...besides what you put down...
Would the rectifier burn up on a jump and not be putting out enough voltage??
This is a good question I don't know the answer to. Anyone know? I sure hope not... I've wasted so much money on this bike already.
Is it possible there is just an issue with the vacuum petcock?
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Reply #24 -
05/07/14 at 21:10:09
slide has to be clean, even fingerprints will make it stick.
spray the bore with carb cleaner, wipe it off with a paper towel.
spray the slide down with carb cleaner, don't spray the rubber, may eat it up.
and that thing is expensive.
wipe it down with a paper towel, don't touch the tube any more.
insert it into the carb and align the rubber ducky, insert spring and install the cap.
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Reply #25 -
05/17/14 at 20:20:35
Okay well today I went out and cleaned the slide with carb cleaner and put it back in and made sure the rubber diaphragm was all lined up. I got the same results as before, there's no real response when I pull on the throttle.
Could it be a petcock issue? Timing chain issue? I have no idea. I finally got the bike at my house though (had to put it on a trailer) so at least I should be able to work on it more often hopefully.
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Reply #26 -
05/17/14 at 21:12:29
Shot in the dark here: Throttle cable?
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Reply #27 -
05/17/14 at 23:48:42
Look at the carb & twist the throttle,.,.Is the throttle cable pulling the carb to the open position? If you reach down to the idle adjust & swing that part & open the gas up, If you swing that part & it winds up, then the throttle cable is done,,
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Reply #28 -
05/18/14 at 21:53:43
Pretty sure the throttle cable is fine from what I can see. Unless you mean the thing the throttle cable pulls on is messed up?
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05/18/14 at 22:00:45
Nope,, if youre seeing the kinda 1/2 moon part the cable goes to swing when ya twist the throttle, then the cable is doin its job.
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