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02/26/14 at 06:09:14
 
I was at the post office yesterday and overheard a conversation about privatization.
One party stated that if the USPO ever became privatized the other should immediately stop sending packages. He claims Italy privatized their postal service and it's worse than sending a parcel through Mexico because of the thefts.

Since we have a resident Italian (MPesc.) I thought I'd throw this up here.


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Reply #1 - 02/26/14 at 08:37:29
 
I hope they dont mess with it, its one of few things that work well for a reasonable fee..
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Reply #2 - 02/26/14 at 10:31:43
 
Here in our office complex our regular mail carrier is a retired Marine.  He can't stand the inefficiency and civilian gov't work rules.  He tells me all of the time how much waste there is, how much laziness exists at the big sorting stations, how everyone makes sure to use every hour of sick leave, etc., etc.
He was actually paid for serving for one whole month serving on some sort of disciplinary hearing panel, meting out various BS, small penalties to people who sit on the toilet for too long, reading magazines.
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Reply #3 - 02/26/14 at 11:32:30
 
Can't vouch for the people in back, but at the counter I've always found friendly service.
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Reply #4 - 02/26/14 at 11:45:59
 
Like any other group of people, there are great ones, good ones, and lousy ones.
The basic problems are horrible inefficiencies that come with any gov't service, petty grievances and grievance hearings wasting so much time.
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Reply #5 - 02/26/14 at 21:02:01
 
Jerry, to be human is to be inefficient.  While 2/3rds of my life was Military and state worker, thus a gvt slag of sorts, 1/3 of my work years was in the private sector. So, with those mild prejudices, I'll simply say that my Brother told me of an incident when he was young and working for one of the computer giants.  To shorten a long and colorful story, it cost him just over $4000 to get 4 special (metric) bolts made back in the 70's one weekend,.  When he went to work on Monday, there was a msg on his desk to see the division boss immediately.  Fully expecting to get fired, he was actually thanked for getting the job done on time and not to worry about the cost, it'll be simply melded in to the selling price.  Or the tradesmen who, while watching our sons' s high school soccer matches (my son went to a trade High school) identified which electrical inspectors didn't inspect so you could cut corners as well as plumbing and building inspectors town by town; how to cheat on the codes and make a little extra.  No, I don't think either government or private enterprise is much better than the other. Huh Huh Huh Huh
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Reply #6 - 02/27/14 at 02:38:01
 
Paraquat wrote on 02/26/14 at 06:09:14:
I was at the post office yesterday and overheard a conversation about privatization.
One party stated that if the USPO ever became privatized the other should immediately stop sending packages. He claims Italy privatized their postal service and it's worse than sending a parcel through Mexico because of the thefts.

Since we have a resident Italian (MPesc.) I thought I'd throw this up here.


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Well, for starters, "the Italian Postal Service is privatized" is the typical stereotype said by the typical Anglosaxon who can't tell socialism from working economy...
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...nor adequate common sense for googling out fact from fiction from BS...
Roll Eyes

The Italian Postal System is NOT privatized, it was simply reorganized and instead of being owned 100% by the Dept. of Communications,
it is now owned in part by the Dept. of Communications, in part by the Dept. of Economy (they provide banking services as well now,
and credit cards too) and part by other Depts. of State, so that you can:
- send&receive mail,
- have your banking account and credit cards,
- pay the bills,
- even have a cellphone account ALL with the one and same organization!
WHICH
among things, has offices throughout National Territory open 8:30 a.m. to 6 p.m. so that you can be a Milanese on holiday in Sicily,
go to any Post Office and have exactly the same services you'd have at your local teller back home.
ALSO
It has its own Postal Police Force which investigates on internet crime, from internet fraud to cyberbullying... just walk to your local Post Office and ask for assistance!  Cool
CAN YOU GUYS DO THAT ?
By the way, have you ever heard of "Registered Mail"? I'm sure you have.
Often Registered Mail is the only way a Lawyer will write in order to have physical evidence to show in Court that mail was actually sent and received.
WELL, WE HAVE CERTIFIED EMAIL !
Italy is the ONLY Country in Europe with government-certified email services which have the same juridical validity as Registered Mail.
CAN YOU GUYS DO THAT ? The Germans, Swiss and French can't...

Can you go and collect cash, recharge your prepaid cellphone, and pay the bills all at the same ATM ? Out of town while on holidays ?
Cool We can ...

I do not have an account at the Post Office, but my wife does for professional reasons, and from many points of view she claims she gets better service than our "family" bank.

The many "Michaels" I have done business with across the ocean have never had any problem receiving my materiel, nor shipping it back to me...
I have always received everything on time, in good shape.

We do not hire Albanian nor Romanian refugees, nor other people who can't speak the official language.
All employees are "federal", meaning they can't be hired nor fired on a "local" whim.
So...  Cool go on ahead and copy...  Wink
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Reply #7 - 02/27/14 at 04:41:31
 
Mpes, are all Italians as thin skinned as you?

Yes, the US has registered and certified mail, but we have UPS and FedEx for the really important stuff.....!

It has its own Postal Police Force which investigates on internet crime, from internet fraud to cyberbullying... just walk to your local Post Office and ask for assistance!  Cool
CAN YOU GUYS DO THAT ?

Yes, but unfortunately, we don't even have to ask...... they nose around in our business until they find something they want to go after.... You have us on that one!

Can you go and collect cash, recharge your prepaid cellphone, and pay the bills all at the same ATM ? Out of town while on holidays ?
Cool We can ...

Who has a prepaid cellphone?.... and you must be the guy in front of me at the ATM taking all day when all I want to do is grab $50 in cash and be on my way....


We do not hire Albanian nor Romanian refugees, nor other people who can't speak the official language.
All employees are "federal", meaning they can't be hired nor fired on a "local" whim.

Well, we split 50/50 here. Like you, we hire people who can't be fired, but unlike you, we hire people who say they speak English, but I can't understand it!
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Reply #8 - 02/27/14 at 10:36:36
 
I have a good friend that started work at the PO in about 1985, and is still there. To be sure there is a lot "crap" that goes on, rather like a union shop in many respects. However, from what I can tell, most postal workers are glad for thier job, and want to perform well. I can't think of any time that I was displeased with the service of the PO locally. I do think that at some point there will need to be a re-vamp of the system, just so it fits with modern times, but I have no wish for drastic changes.
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Reply #9 - 02/28/14 at 09:26:12
 
WebsterMark wrote on 02/27/14 at 04:41:31:
Mpes, are all Italians as thin skinned as you?

Yes, the US has registered and certified mail, but we have UPS and FedEx for the really important stuff.....!

It has its own Postal Police Force which investigates on internet crime, from internet fraud to cyberbullying... just walk to your local Post Office and ask for assistance!  Cool
CAN YOU GUYS DO THAT ?

Yes, but unfortunately, we don't even have to ask...... they nose around in our business until they find something they want to go after.... You have us on that one!

Can you go and collect cash, recharge your prepaid cellphone, and pay the bills all at the same ATM ? Out of town while on holidays ?
Cool We can ...

Who has a prepaid cellphone?.... and you must be the guy in front of me at the ATM taking all day when all I want to do is grab $50 in cash and be on my way....


We do not hire Albanian nor Romanian refugees, nor other people who can't speak the official language.
All employees are "federal", meaning they can't be hired nor fired on a "local" whim.

Well, we split 50/50 here. Like you, we hire people who can't be fired, but unlike you, we hire people who say they speak English, but I can't understand it!


OK, maybe I have to rephrase.

I was not talking about registered paper mail, I was taliking about registered email.
It is called "certified email" and is provided via "Poste Italiane" email servers or other service providers registered with the Government.
So, I'm not talking about Googlemail or Hotmail, I mean providers where you provide name, address and proof of identity, no aliases, your certified email address is "name.surname@postacertificata.poste.it"

You Always get a proof of delivery and it is valid in court. Can you imagine, a legally binding email ?

Prepaid cellphone: We have two options on cellphones:
- a contract so that you "pay as you talk" (incoming calls are free in Europe) with a certified minimum of "X minutes for Y money/month"
- a prepaid phone, so that you "recharge" your phone with... €10 Worth and you have 12 months to use that much airtime (to a teenager it can expire within a few hours  Grin) I have one such phone in my car for emergencies, with a different provider from my everyday phone; one of them is Always bound to have some coverage. I charge €5/year, and I'm happy.

As for hiring people who don't speak the official national Language... all Govt employees MUST be Italian citizens, so there's no way you can have your mail delivered by an immigrant with pidgin Italian/English... if you know what I mean.

As for "thin skinned"... Paraquat started it by claiming "I overheard a conversation"...

You want me to tell you all the urban myths about "anywhere else but here"?

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Reply #10 - 02/28/14 at 10:29:52
 
Please do, I for one would love to hear what the everyday common man thinks about the "Deluded States". I do get a lot of that from reading posts on SF, but...
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Reply #11 - 02/28/14 at 12:00:44
 
Please, do.
I love outside information. I know we're very limited, especially regarding world affairs.


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Reply #12 - 03/01/14 at 04:20:25
 
As I said, it's "anywhere else but here", meaning "far far away from where I live.

I'll start with Italy, to give you all the understanding I am NOT shooting at the pianist.

ITALY

- don't go there, they're all mafia hit men
Yes, to the point INTERPOL once again confirmed Rome as the safest Capital city in Europe.

- the food's odd, they make lousy hamburgers and they charge you for sitting at the table
The food is good, you're the one who goes cold turkey because you can't find McDonalds...

- it's full of illegal immigrants
Yes, and they sell umbrellas and other paraphernalia, and THEIR crime rate is lower than the natives'...

- the people there are noisy and move their hands when they talk
Look who's talking... Greek philosopher Hippocrates was the first to diagnose people as "deaf and mute from Birth" (you say "deaf&dumb", it's a bit rude) and St.Girolamo (Hyeronimus?) in the 4th Century A.D. first devised a way to teach the Gospels to the deaf.

- coffee's impossible, they give you a sip and you have to drink it standing
Coffee comes from the Arabic Peninsula (ancient city of Mokha in Yemen) or, according to Others, from Ethiopia. What is certain is that it was introduced to Costantinople via the merchants from Babylon and Persia, and thence to Europe. Italian espresso and "turkish" coffee are renown as the best possible way to enjoy coffee, which in both circumstances comes in small sip-sized cups. You want "big cuppa joe"? Ask for "Americano"...

- won't they ever eat anything but pasta?
Italians have been eating rice since the Paleolithic... it's not "just from China", rice is a grain like barley, oates and wheat, you'll find it anywhere...
French cuisine was so horrid in the Middle Ages Queen (of France) Catherine de'Medici (from Florence) had to bring her own chefs to Paris, and that's when the French realized you can do more to meat than just boil it or pour molten butter on it...

- you mean you have coffee breaks and lunch breaks at the office? Don't you guys ever work?
Experience shows that an athelete running 5 miles will be less tired and will require shorter rest periods than a Marathon man; similarly, workers can toil for 90-120 mins. full steam, but then they need a breather.

- what do you mean, I can't park my car at the office? You expect me to ride a bus?
What do you mean, you tear down buildings when they're 50 years old? Don't you have an "Old Town" in the city center? Do you think Old Williamsburg or Georgetown were built in the 17th century with wide roads so that YOU could park you car 400 years later?

- can't you guys build proper cars? They're awfully tight!
If we built road barges they wouldn't fit in our medieval alleys...

- Italians make lousy cars! FIAT : Fix it Again, Tony!
Tony is a h3ll of a lousy mechanic, find yourself a better one
Also, quoted from Henry Ford: "Whenever I see an Alfa Romeo drive by, I take my hat off in respect"
Last, Ferrari and Lamborghini are the only ones who can still manufacture a V12  and make it work...
Bugatti V16 engines are made in Campogalliano, just north of Modena

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Reply #13 - 03/01/14 at 08:37:42
 
When are you guys gonna learn not to swat at Pesci? He always counterpunches & lands them solid.. The guy has traveled & is obviously no dummy,, why keep crossing swords? Unless youve just got too much blood,,
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Reply #14 - 03/01/14 at 09:09:30
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 03/01/14 at 08:37:42:
When are you guys gonna learn not to swat at Pesci? He always counterpunches & lands them solid.. The guy has traveled & is obviously no dummy,, why keep crossing swords? Unless youve just got too much blood,,


Who's swatting? Genuine interest since your "average Joe Shmuckatelly" American is about as worldly as a dried out run over dog dropping...

I even tried to get discharged from the Navy while stationed in Spain. Had a career lined up in Cadiz, had a drop dead gorgeous Nordic girl that wanted to "bring me home to meet the parents", and at the time Spain was affordable because it still used its own currency instead of Euros.
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