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Re: Chromebox predictions coming true very quickly
Reply #105 - 04/06/14 at 09:28:54
 
Stuck google chrome on an old Compac Presario.... 2.4 ghz Pentium system has XP on it.
Its just a browser, might have built in anti-spyware stuff, not sure, seems a tad faster.
It automatically hooks up with my chrome+ stuff (I am bill+) and touts saving your settings for all your devices (backrounds, apps, and favorites), including phone, tablets and pc/laptops.
Stores any files you edit in the "one cloud" or what ever its called.
Not really an OS but a good browser replacement if it actually has antivirus included.
You still have your windows operating system intact, just a new browser if you select the "chrome" over IE.
I've got like 70 gig left open on this system...and it said before it would not run mint 15, I might try 11 and see if that will work on it before I totally destroy windows xp on it.

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Reply #106 - 04/06/14 at 09:43:37
 

Another voice of sanity in the world of frantic choices ....

http://www.techrepublic.com/article/deciding-to-ditch-windows-xp-here-are-you...

Does security matter to you? Ditch Windows XP for one of these upgrade options

Realize that Chrome 32 came out a week or two after this article was wrtten or I think he would have covered it in the article.   Plus the direct boot option doesn't exist just yet, but give it a week or two.
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Re: Chromebox predictions coming true very quickly
Reply #107 - 04/06/14 at 09:52:08
 

Oh my Goodness !!!!

Somebody went and followed Microsoft's XP upgrade recommendations to the letter and has posted the journey for you to read.

Please read this if you think MS has your "best interest" position at heart --- PLEASE get yourself educated before you go there .....

http://www.zdnet.com/8-lessons-learned-from-upgrading-a-dog-slow-xp-machine-t...

Summary: ZDNet's David Gewirtz decides to upgrade a "dog-slow" Atom-based PC from the nearly dearly departed Windows XP to Windows 8. In the process, he learns a lot and shares some of those lessons with you in this article.it

Oooooooh -- MS are you just full of it or what?  

No wonder everybody hates you if you would do stuff like that to them .....

Also, remember he paid $40 as part of a packaged 5 pack deal for this wonderful experience.

Guys, check me on this --- Linux Mint Mate 16 and 17 found all the necessary drivers that were needed as part of the standard automatic installation without you doing anything -- Mint Mate runs quick as a bunny and was painless to do as a normal install.    

Now Serowbot might tell you he had to go look for stuff, but that was because he wanted different stuff from the standard install, and accordingly he had to go look for different stuff to get exactly what he wanted.  

But also note Serowbot didn't have to bleed near as much as the article writer had to bleed just to get Win 8 running at all.

And, also check me on this -- Chrome 32 didn't even require much of an install per se.      It was just a program you downloaded and clicked on when it was done downloading.   You did have to give it some choices so it could configure itself to suit what you wanted it to be.
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Re: Chromebox predictions coming true very quickly
Reply #108 - 04/06/14 at 12:05:16
 

http://chromeos.hexxeh.net/

Who is Hexxeh?    Hexxeh is the dude who ported everything over to RaspberryPi, he's the one who help start Cyanogen mod back when it was just an unlocked open source Android project, and he has begun him a new project just recently.  

Vanilla

Hexxeh has taken the open source Chrome OS project and packaged it like a distro off off of a bootable USB thumb drive media.

THIS IS NOT GOOGLE CHROME, IT IS AN OPEN SOURCE PROJECT WRITTEN FROM WHAT GOOGLE PERIODICALLY TURNS BACK TO OPEN SOURCE (as is required by the Linux FOSS license).  

So it isn't totally totally current like the Google page stuff is.  but it is packaged and tweeked with all the stuff an independent OS needs.

It is packaged completely though and it can run independent of whatever.   It isn't the official Google stuff[/u], not yet.   IT LACKS Flash, and any other licensed codex packages.

If folks are asking for a Chromium based XP replacement, this comes closer to being that than what Google currently provides.

Hexxeh would also listen to requests if XP folks were to ask him for a rescue upgrade package for XP.   But, since he works for Google as an intern on Chrome OS right now he may not be allowed to release a full featured XP rescue package by his bosses.

Hexxeh has a history of excellence in coding and he listens to folks who post him stuff.

Think of him as the Zorro of the computing masses ....  who happens to currently work for Google on Chrome OS right now.


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But, be aware that Zorro thinks you know a good bit of stuff (more than you likely do know).  
Here are Hexxeh's instructions on how to do Vanilla.

1 Use WinRAR or 7zip to extract IMG file from the downloaded archive.
2 Use Windows Image Writer, then select the IMG file and select the USB device from the menu.
3 Click on "Write".
4 Boot from the newly created Chromium OS USB stick!

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According to another knowledgeable hacker, once you have Hexxeh's Vanilla running on your device its possible to upgrade from chromium os to the real Chrome OS just follow these steps.

1.press ctrl+alt+f2 and login as chronos the password is facepunch if you use hexxeh's build
2.type sudo touch /mnt/stateful_partition/.developer_mode (if you want to get rid of developer mode)
3.type the password
4.type wget http://goo.gl/4suhf; sudo bash 4suhf
5.select an image file, wait, reboot
6.enjoy your free chromebook


Now, to really do all this requires you to be somewhat of a programmer, but the thought of fixing up Chrome OS to be a real hard drive bootable OS is really being kicked about on the net.

The rub being that drivers for all the assorted stuff out there do not exist for Chrome OS since Chrome is only ever been supported on certain hardware devices (and the divers were worked out before the actual device shipped).

Still, folks in open source are both clever and resourceful.   One path would be to take a current fully driver supported mini-distro as the bootable base and have it go automatically directly to Chrome OS as the only item on it.

Where there is a will, there is a way.    


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But Google isn't going to do anything to kill off Microsoft -- that isn't something they are willing to do.   Nor will they try to expand Chrome OS beyond their current closely matched hardware/driver pairings.

And Hexxeh will have to pay attention to what Google wants, because he currently is working for them as an intern.

(smart young guy, he needs a job).
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Re: Chromebox predictions coming true very quickly
Reply #109 - 04/06/14 at 16:32:15
 
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Guys, check me on this --- Linux Mint Mate 16 and 17 found all the necessary drivers that were needed as part of the standard automatic installation without you doing anything -- Mint Mate runs quick as a bunny and was painless to do as a normal install


Yup. Found my printers, browser worked right off the bat. I didn't have to configure/tweak anything. Everything worked right from the first boot.
Only thing I did was move my files over using a flash drive. Done.
(Mint Mate 16 32bit)

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Re: Chromebox predictions coming true very quickly
Reply #110 - 04/07/14 at 08:12:30
 


Samsung Chromebook 2 up for pre-order for $320

These devices are supposed to be over twice as strong as the previous Samsung offerings (kicking up at or better than any current released unit).
Price is less than a weaker Toshiba unit and more than the entire low end of the pack.  

Wait for the Asus 13" unit which will cost over $100 less for similar features and power.   This unit is intended to be the top end of the full production pack for Chromebook appearance and comfort features (not counting Google's limited edition Pixel, of course).



Samsung Chromebook 2 11.6

   11.6 inch, 1366 x 768 pixel display
   1.9 GHz Samsung Exynos 5 Octa 5420 processor
   4GB RAM
   16GB storage
   1 USB 3.0, 1 USB 2.0 port
   1 microSD card slot
   802.11ac WiFi
   Bluetooth 4.0
   30Whr, 4080mAh battery (up to 8 hours)
   11.4″ x 8.1″ x 0.66″
   2.4 pounds

Samsung Chromebook 2 13.3

   13.3 inch, 1920 x 1080 pixel display
   2 GHz Samsung Exynos 5 Octa 5800 processor
   4GB RAM
   16GB storage
   1 USB 3.0, 1 USB 2.0 port
   1 microSD card slot
   802.11ac WiFi (2×2 antenna)
   Bluetooth 4.0
   35 Whr, 4700mAH battery (up to 8.5 hours)
   12.7″ x 8.8″ x 0.65″
   3.1 pounds
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Re: Chromebox predictions coming true very quickly
Reply #111 - 04/13/14 at 10:05:10
 
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-chromebox-2gb-memory-16gb-solid-state-drive/...



Asus Chromebox round #3 is now on pre-order at Best Buy.  Price is $175 which is slightly better than before.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-chromebox-2gb-memory-16gb-solid-state-drive/...

This is the 3rd full on production run that has been snapped up before they were actually produced.

For those who want to manually tweek and control the hibernate, there is an app for that.  It is called Keep Awake and it is in the Chrome Store.

BTW, the Asus Chromebox draws 15 watts of power pretty much constantly ongoing, which is less than 5 cents worth of power a day.  

Your current PC draws more than that just to run the power supply & the power supply fan itself going ....  much less for the CPU and CPU fan which runs constantly too.   15 watts won't even keep a large hard drive's 4 to 6 platters spinning.

News about the Hibernate thing.

If you don't like having the constant logging in after a hibernate, use Keep Awake to turn off the hibernate and hit the "stay logged in" radio button.  

Now just shut your monitor off when you get ready to leave.   Power consumption stays the same at 15 watts ....


Look for new models to come out soon with more and bigger and extra this and that -- still, for the cost of an extra stick of DDR3 memory this original Asus Chrome Box has still got to be the best new desktop computing value out there.



Roll Eyes



Note: the current reigning champ for "Overall Best Cheap Linux Machine" is still got to be the off-lease Dell business machine I bought for $80 shipped to my house last Black Friday.  

A Core 2 Duo 3.0 ghz processor with 6 megs per core of pipe-line buffer RAM and 4 gigs of systems memory and a 80 gig hard drive and a DVD reader optical drive and a little brick floppy drive too.

This 5-7 year old moldy goldie jest plain rocks with Linux Mint Mate.  Far far far more machine than any Chromebox out there and at less than half the price to boot.


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Reply #112 - 04/13/14 at 15:06:10
 
http://liliputing.com/2014/04/rockchip-rk3288-demo-chromium-os-tv-box-android...

Thar she blows, Boss, the Great White Whale has done been seen out there in the wild !!!!



This is what it the Great White Whale she looks like.

click on it, the Media player isn't working in YaBB at the moment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR4qVB3_cnc#t=216

We are talking Chromium OS devices (non-Google Chromium OS TV box) and tablets booting in 8 seconds on a Rockchip RK3288 chip.   Running Apple Retina level displays.  Coming from the Chinese Cheapie guys.  Coming to competitively priced Chromeboxes and Chromebooks directly shipped from China suppliers for cheap really really really soon.  

   (next month soon)

Twice as good (opening 30 tabs) as what Samsung or HP are currently supplying for relatively big bucks.

We said the tipping point would be HP shipping chrome boxes and chrome books -- and this has already happened.    Then Asus has lowered the price point to $175 and now Asus can't make them fast enough ....

(Asus has gone through 3 full production runs now and has sold them all on-line before they even hit the warehouses)

We waited for the final stage .....  since the demand and the price point were now proven as super hot hot hot.

We said full acceptance would be the Chinese Cheapie guys shipping standardized Chrome OS boxes and books (Cheapie guys actually actually honoring a Google enforced Chromium International Standard) at a Chinese Cheapie price level.


What you see in the video is the very cheapest piece of stuff that will be prevalent next year -- everything else will be better than this going forward.

De White Whale, Boss, De White Whale !!!   She blows, right now in front of us she blows !!!  

Get the harpoon gun Boss, she is out there right now !!!!

Shoot Boss !!!   Shoot !!!!

Reel in de line !!!  Reel in de line !!!

Aww Boss, all you got stuck on dis heer harpoon is a couple of little bitty somebody's future type thingies.   Somebody name Intel and somebody else named Microsoft, little bitty flappy thingies with sucker mouths and poison fangs, Boss.  

Not worth saving, jes scrape them off the harpoon and let them fall into the wake as we sail on away into the future ....
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Re: Chromebox predictions coming true very quickly
Reply #113 - 04/23/14 at 03:30:59
 
http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=asus+chromebox&tag=googhydr-20&inde...

This is the 2 day sell through of the 4th full production run of Asus Chromeboxes -- at the time the link was posted Amazon had only 4 units left and all the other vendors are already "pre-selling" their next allocations and have sold them all (and the next batch's allocations too).

Asus still can't make the units fast enough .....

Something to note is that the Asus Chromebox is the #1 desktop on Amazon any time they actually have any to sell.

NewEgg has begun price gouging on the units, and are still selling their allocations out at $199.99

So far Microsoft's offer of free Win 8.1 to "anyone making a device under $250" hasn't resulted in a competitive product to go up against the Asus Chromebox.

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Reply #114 - 04/23/14 at 03:46:17
 

Financial folks are reacting to the Asus Chromebox by shorting Microsoft and now APPLE ......  calling the Asus Chromebox "the little box of destruction".

http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/03/15/the-box-that-could-hurt-micr...

The Box That Could Hurt Microsoft and Squash Apple’s Hobby

"The bottom line is, the Chromebox is a $179 weapon of destruction that Microsoft, HP, and Apple all need to be ready to respond to. If this product succeeds, Google may be able to box out its competition from the PC and the streaming media player industry at the same time."
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Reply #115 - 05/05/14 at 07:22:45
 

Asus Chromebox with Core i3 Haswell now available for preorder for $397

http://liliputing.com/2014/05/asus-chromebox-core-i3-haswell-now-available.html



This is for pre-orders for the power-up version with the full bore Core i3 Haswell quad core processor and 4-8 gigs of memory AND the free wireless keyboard and mouse.

http://www.provantage.com/asus-chromebox-m075u~7ASUD00C.htm

Also note that ProVantage, the lowest cost master distributor, is offering special deals on lots sizes of 50 each, for schools, IT departments and Ebay hawkers who will be snatching up these first preorder shipments intending to resell them on Ebone for a quick turn profit.

Supply on the original $179 unit still isn't caught up yet
, and the supply on this upgrade version is likely to lag way way way behind too.

Suspiciously, this unit is really a fully memory populated Intel NUC with a free cordless keyboard and mouse, selling for what the bare bones Intel NUCs sell for.  

You will still have to plug in a USB 3.0 one terabyte hard drive, but that isn't but $79 right now (if you don't already have one).

People aren't stupid you know ....   Asus will sell the shite out of these "power up" ChromeBox units as Ubuntu machines and when MS plucks their thumb from their butt and actually offers Win 9 at a "please please let us play too" price this unit will be able to support that action completely as well.

Pundits are questioning why people think they really need a Core i3 processor, especially since it is an oldstyle energy hog main PC processor due to be replaced with an energy efficient BayTrail/Atom in just a few months (or whenever the vapor solidifies that is).   Do they think they will ever leave open more than 50 web pages at the same time and just leave them open ongoing?

Why?                 Roll Eyes

"Unlike the cheaper model, the Asus Chromebox-M075U should ship with a wireless keyboard and mouse, so you won’t have to supply your own.

The new system has a higher clock speed, more cache, support for hyperthreading, and should generally run circles around the original Asus Chromebox in CPU benchmarks. Seeing as the cheaper model is already fast enough to handle most web browsing, web app, and online video tasks, the extra power you get from the Core i3 CPU may be overkill for some users… but it’d probably come in handy if you want to convert your Chromebox into a Linux box."
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Re: Chromebox predictions coming true very quickly
Reply #116 - 05/21/14 at 09:29:51
 

http://liliputing.com/2014/05/rockchip-rk3288-powered-chrome-os-devices-way.html




We mentioned that the white whale was sighted and good ol' Cap't Ahab shot a couple of harpoons at it, but nobody has seen the big white whale floating up on top of the water just yet.

Still, there are some bubbles rising here and there and the waters are churning some.   There are active message boards being created on the Google Chrome OS site and there are cryptic activities going on on those boards concerning a chipset with the code name Veyron (which suspiciously shares all the specs of the RK3288 chipset).    

Google is busily setting up a new chipset with all the Chrome OS necessities for being a full Chrome OS citizen.    They don't do that without a manufacturing partner that is going to make something in full on production mode .....   and once the chipset is set up it becomes easy for various people to get new devices approved using the same chipset leap-frogging off of what is already been done.

I have said several times I always watch the bottom end, because that says what sort of affordable products are going to be produced in the next year or so.  

RK3288 is the current generations bottom end chipset nowadays.  

And you can do a WHOLE LOT with it !!!    It is a better, more powerful chipset than over half the existing stuff that is out there in mobile land.

It is more powerful than any of the chipsets used in the current crop of HP Chrome OS products.

It is more powerful than most of the current actually real & shipping right now generation of Intel Bay whatsit chipsets.


Look Boss !!   The water !!   The water !!

The water, she bubbles and churns --- something beeg is coming up !!!
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Re: Chromebox predictions coming true very quickly
Reply #117 - 06/07/14 at 14:35:58
 

http://liliputing.com/2014/06/rockchip-shows-chromebook-rk3288-cpu.html

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Boy, did I pick the right metaphor for the Rockchip RK3288 Chromebook --- fish tales !!!





Those of us who remember old systems tests remember the fish tank test -- just how many fish your new rig up could manage to animate at the same time WAS the entirety of the test.

I can remember when two dozen fish brought the best AMD system in the world to its knees and Intel couldn't even swing that many at that point in time.

Well, the fish tank test can't defeat the Rockchip RK3288, it can animate 1,000 fish at the same time and the fish tank test jest doesn't go any higher.

(it is an old test, after all)

While animating 1,000 fish on one tab it can still go cruise the internet at normal speeds on a couple of other tabs.


Grin   Grin   Grin   Grin   Grin      


So yes, a Chromebook can do more on line than your old heavy MS OS laptop (that you don't actually use any more) can do.   And it can do it a lot faster, too.


Well, the white whale is up on the surface now, and it is all ready to be skinned, blubbered and boiled for oil.    
If HP had a brain, they would replace the dual core Samsung chip Chromebooks that they are peddling now with this one.    

But hey, it's HP, they can't move that fast .... but there are others out there can.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7tnUqi6MQM


Remember, Intel, this is the shallow end of the current generation ARM chip kiddie pool .....  
This is what you have to beat if you are to play at all next year.


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Re: Chromebox predictions coming true very quickly
Reply #118 - 06/10/14 at 13:06:42
 


Speaking of HP being somewhat slow and somewhat behind, here they come, swinging their very first chrome BOX ..... using an out of date (now discontinued) Intel chipset.

http://liliputing.com/2014/06/hp-chromebox-now-available-179.html




Cheesy


..... And just how slow is HP?

Rockchip has enough time to debut a new A-17 chipset, build it and then coax a chrome book through Google & the setting up all the drivers for Chrome OS using that new A-17 chipset and THEN show off actual working models of the finished product before HP can span the "HP slow time" between an actual product ANNOUNCEMENT and the actual shipping of products (using a now discontinued chipset no less).

Too too slow, HP
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Reply #119 - 06/10/14 at 13:21:42
 

http://bgr.com/2013/07/10/google-chromebook-market-share-2013/

Google’s Chromebooks are now the fastest growing PC market segment




"According to data from market research firm NPD Group, the low-cost computers have captured between 20% and 25% of the sub-$300 laptop market in U.S. in the past eight months. The firm noted that Chromebooks are now the fastest growing segment of the PC market based on price, Bloomberg reported.

NPD analyst Stephen Baker explained that Google will likely continue to benefit from the growth of the sub-$300 PC market, which is expected to increase more than 10% in 2013. By comparison, the PC industry as a whole is forecasted to see negative growth of -7.8% this year."


PC as a group (laptops included) is still shrinking.   Chromebooks and boxes selling 2-3X better than low end laptops, driven mostly by the better price and increased functionality they show.

Schools are a great success story for Chromebooks
, with students simply picking one up off the charger rack and logging in to start their lessons.

Also note that HP is also selling their Chromebox through their business computer side, apparently intending to sell them into companies for the worker bees to use (running them off of secure company intra-nets).   Look for Dell to start doing the same sub-$300 business just as soon as purchasing departments start putting out quotes for Chromebooks/boxes specifically at the $279 price point.

Free Win 8.1 (with permanent Bing ad bars) still isn't making much of a noise in the low end laptop segment -- but then again how would you know?   Folks are so used to seeing so much crapware on all new Windows machines how would they even know it was any different?

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