The number of part time workers has skyrocketed  to a high of 20.1% in Jan 2010, has come down slightly since then, but will leap upwards when Obamacare is implemented even further. Growing part time workers are devastating to a nation’s economics as it sets up even more government assistance funded by more borrowing which further weakens the economy and continues the cycle. Part of the part time growth has been a Obamacare no doubt, but the other part is a fear of hiring full time workers because confidence is not there. That is the exact reason our CEO said why he was hesitant to hire in a couple of areas, because he has no confidence right now. (note: a word of caution; on one hand you can’t blame evil corporates who are so selfish they would sell their mother’s for a buck and on the other hand say they are purposely trying to make Obama look bad. You can only use one of those arguments)

The U.S. labor force is still shrinking rapidly. Back in 2007, 66 percent of Americans had a job or were actively seeking work. Today, that number is at 62.8 percent — the lowest level since 1977: The unemployment number is misleading, the real number the participation rate. Gee; who was President in 1977?.....

In January 2005 at the end of Bush’s first term, 25 million people rec’d food stamps, up from 17 million when he took office. When he left, it was at 32 million. Today under Obama, it’s 47 million. Again, that’s a reflection of so many not even looking for a job and so many only on part time which is only going to grow higher thanks to Obamacare. In one half the time, Obama has matched this number.

Here’s an interesting number; During President Bush’s first term, the average duration of unemployment was 17 weeks. During President Obama’s first term, the average duration of unemployment was 34 weeks.

Another one: DEBT - At the end of President Bush’s first term the U.S. national debt was 64 percent of gross national product. The U.S. national debt was $7.6 trillion or roughly $26,000 per person. At the end of President Obama’s first term in office the U.S. national debt was more than 100 percent of gross domestic product. The U.S. national debt was more than $16.4 trillion, more than $52,000 per person.

So before we go back and forth, pick one topic and we’ll beat it to death. And yes, this is where I keep you from pulling a Jog/Rat and bounce all over the place. Pick one.

Mitt almost single handedly destroyed Massachusetts, letting the University system fall into disrepair (cause he believed that if you were worthy of college, your Mom and Dad should pay, (or the university alumnae etc) not the government.  He signed the Mass health care to all  not because he wanted to but because the Senate President told him if he vetoed it the veto would be over ridden, and to Mitt, not appearing in charge is worse than signing off on something he was against.   He would do anything to get elected..and the Clintons are pro business pseudo Deomcrats and Hillary has already shown she would sacrifice a few government workers rather than look out of touch (Yes, she and Mitt are both delusional...or in fact simply aware that power is the goal of politics).

the deficit is half of what it was when bush left

Sew, you are exhibiting signs of BDS….. Bush Derangement Syndrome.  

The topic was Mitt vs Obama, not sure how Bush got dragged into it. That would be like me bringing Clinton into it. Now, if you want to make a case what you think Mitt would have done, have at it, but leave Bush out of it.

As far as a trillion spent in 5 years, Obama spent a trillion in one year which was known as the stimulus. If  Obama can claim a positive economic impact by giving money away to union laborers in key swing states during an election year to dig holes and fill them back up with dirt again, certainly you shouldn’t discount the advantage of military spending on the economy.

and Obama is Carter II&III......

My point still stands. Bush was not part of this topic. You brought him into this as cover for Obama's failings. I don't blame you, I would too if I were you.

thumperclone wrote on 03/11/14 at 11:30:39:


You meant twice of when bush left...

Serowbot wrote on 03/11/14 at 15:51:03:


Do you mean TARP? The stimulus as I understand it has been about a trillion a year, 70% of it is direct transfer payments to keep libs in power. We lost about 10 billion on the government motors bailouts for unions. Out debt has gone up over a trillion per year to prevent nature from taking its course, a market correction that would get the country back on the road to financial health.

Things have not changed since Frank/Dodd finacnial fiasco that caused this whole mess in the first place. There is a lot of movement in various markets but our debt has skyrockets, unfunded liabilities have skyrocketed and unemployment and labor participation dropout have skyrocketed. We are at about 37% unemployment and the only reason nothing has gotten any better is the flood of cash to the masses to hide the problem.

Libs live for today and spend like there is no tomorow.