Serowbot wrote on 02/07/14 at 23:27:51:"true producers"?...
Define please...
Do you know what "producers" do in film?... (they get top billing for it)(they win awards for it)...
They supply the money... they can't write, shoot. edit, act, or even use gaffer tape...
True, they supply the money. Would there even be a project if they did not supply the money ? In that case, no one else would have a job. Also, it is not uncommon at all for a producer to wear multiple hats; writing, directing, etc.
It is his money after all, and his vision that the project has enough merit to warrant his risking HIS money in that project.
Do you think D.Trump can hammer a nail?...
Does it matter ? He obviously knows something about real estate development.
There was a CEO a few years ago, confessed that he couldn't read...
So what other skills did he have that resulted in his being hired to do that job ? I suspect that there must have been something significant. Just makes sense, yes ?
There are men out there,.. that can barely tie their own shoes, making 400 times more than the men and women that produce...
Pay for work is based upon a persons knowledge & skill, and the ability to effectively use those to produce something, whether it is a thing, or idea, or motivation and guidance of others. They are all sellable commodities.
On a smaller scale,... if I direct cash to, and instruct my mechanic to build a bike... did I produce anything?...
...or did I consume?...
you did both; you produced work for the mechanic (producer) and you consumed the product of his work. It is a direct exchange.
It's a fine line between production and consumption...
As far as I can see... CEO's and executives are in between...
They leech their money from the middle...
LEACH ? ? Really ? To me, the use of this term shows a "preconceived mind set". Are you jealous of anyone who is able to command this type of money for his/her work ? I'm not claiming you do; simply posing the question based on what I see in print.
between those that produce and those that consume... and get 400 times more... and they seem to succeed, even when they fail...
Golden parachutes falling everywhere...
..as hard working producers of real products lose everything, and end up relying on "Obamacare"... they don't get golden parachutes...
And they got 400 times less for producing.
Most all metropolitan cities, subsidize housing and transportation for working poor...
Why?... because cities couldn't function without them...
Subsidies would not be necessary if those running the city gov't did not suck up so much of the peoples income with excessive & burdensome taxes. Taxes go up and everything costs more...prices everything & everyone right out of the city. Government is too big and wasteful.
Is that charity?... when it is given to people that we depend on?...
Charity is a "gift" given freely from ones own heart, not from forced taxation. Americans, as a whole, give more to charity each year than the rest of the countries of the world combined.
Healthcare is the same... society needs it's working poor healthy... just as they need them sheltered, and able to get to work...
Individual people need to be healthy so they can work to improve their own lives. As a result the "whole of society will benefit".
And when they are broken by their labors,.. it is societies responsibility to care for them... and they still contribute... as consumers...
No, the responsibility does not rest on everyone else (society) but on the individual. If the government did not take 50% or more of the income of the citizens, then there would be plenty of money available for each to take care of himself.
With a minimal gov't, just think of all those millions of gov't workers who would be free of a job where they do not produce any real product, and would instead be able to do honorable work and produce something that has real value, thus benefiting his fellow man & counntry (society).
It is a fine line between producer and consumer...
Here's a thought... if you use huge amounts money to make a product, that in return makes you huge profit..... but you keep all the profit,... are you producing?... or consuming?...
Where would that money be if you hadn't got it?...
Ah, someone uses their own money to set up business to make something, which means they hire others to work for them (creating jobs), and they buy materials to make the product (other businesses make money selling the material and creating jobs for their employees), and then sell the product to those who want it (people pleased to have the product they want/like), and of course the businesses involved paid taxes on the profits they made and the workers in those business paid taxes on their income from working, and the business owners and the workers all go out to buy food, gas, houses, cloths, give to charity, etc etc etc.
It is a symbiotic relationship.
What I'm saying is... Community creates commerce...
Is that communist?...
Indivduals, when added together, makes for community.
Individuals making their own decisions make a free community.
People FORCED to follow the dictates of a few in leadership, or suffer the consequences for not obeying, are those living under the heavy hand of a totalitarian gov't, of which communism is one.
All members of a community create commerce...
Even children, elderly, infirmed, and unemployable...
Cast them out.. and they have no effect on commerce within... as long as they are within, they are consuming, which spurs production, creates jobs, makes profit, and encourages development...
Imagine how much commerce would be lost, if children were forced to work instead of having a childhood...
The amount of work they could produce, does not outweigh the value that their childhood can contribute by consuming...
Elderly care is a booming industry...
As we all live longer, this will grow...
The balance will change,.. and you may resent it now,.. but if you are lucky, you will outlive that resentment...
Children used to be put to work at 9, or 12 years old...
People used to work 'till they died...
Community has allowed us the luxury of having a childhood, and an education, and a retirement,.. and a subsistence for those that are in need...
It starts with individuals working for their own benefit and that of their family. It is from the bottom up, not the top down.
That's why we have communities.. and governments... instead of anarchy, or barbarism...
Many governments of the world have brought us anarchy and barbarism over history. Individuals must always be on the alert to avoid/prevent that from happening, as it is in many parts of the world even now.
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