Paraquat wrote on 01/15/14 at 06:15:35:


I think the better question is what happened in 2006. Democrats took the House and Senate and within 2 years Frank/Dodd finance reform tranferred a vast majority of wealth from regular Americans to the Dems wealthy donors. Also put on display for all to see what happens when government gets into the business of picking winners  

Serowbot wrote on 01/15/14 at 09:03:18:


Yeah.....I'm with bot on this one, b'sides...... we is all gonna die due to global warming. Don't believe me, ask algore!

I'm sure the US will SURVIVE in some form or another. Whether we can recover from the economic mess that's coming is an entirely different question. The economic paradigm that we are operating under is based on fantasy. That aint going to get fixed IMO.

Which causes what? Does economic collapse cause societal collapse or does societal collapse caused economic collapse?

I say societal collapse causes economic collapse, not the other way around. Poverty is more a function of society that it is economics. Actually it's probably more correct to say long-term poverty is more a function of society than economics.

I was just reading all these posts....


To me the economic situation can be likened to this:

Take an enigine and run it... eventually the oil will run low... just keep running it. Now some will say .. "hey we need oil or the engine will destroy itself!" while others will point out (facually) that the engine is runing just fine and is actually running even FASTER without all that oil to have pump everywhere.
Then the engine seizes up and someone gets the bright idea to use the starter motor to turn the engine.. and it works!!! The engine limps along and its not even using any gasoline!! all you chickens are idiots!!

Thats where we are now... running a broke engine by using the starter motor.

Those with money and abilty are still draining off the remaining oil.. and selling off useless parts like oil pumps and water pumps. When the engine does stop, they will have either amassed so much that it does not matter, or they will have already moved into a different paradign to secure thier position. Those of us (very much me) that were expecting the engine to run until we died... and are wholly dependent on it... will suffer.

Poverty is not the issue. Poverty has been the lot of the majority of the inhabitant of this planet throughout all of history.

Until the capitalistic system coupled together with the Republic known as the United States of American came along, that was true. Once poor, you were almost guaranteed to be poor. Hard work ethic and talent was no guarantee you could generate the amount of wealth you wanted.

Today, our society eagerly awaits the latest government handout. Politicians see office as a way to power and fame, not as a guardian to the Republic. These societal failings are driving our nation bankrupt.

I do not see how generations of welfare recipients will change. I do not see how politicians who are dependent upon the vote will force the masses, who are basically acting like children to grow up and take responsibility for themselves.

What are we talking about on the news today, extending unemployment even longer? Borrow more to pay for this? Where does this stop? How can it stop when the birds who feed at the feeder have a say if the feed continues or not?

oldNslow wrote on 01/16/14 at 13:58:58:



Bingo.......

Handouts are great,, right up till the moment that other guys pockets run dry,,

Whuu? ME? Para Phrasing? I was REALLY tryin to make that come across like I was the sole author! & Looka what you done gone & done! Dang, dude,,