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CES 2014 -- News from the CES floor
01/04/14 at 04:40:52
 

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http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/3/5267360/intel-dual-os-pc-plus-android-window...

Intel plans a CES coup: Android and Windows in the same computer

Well, you gotta read the whole article, it is a first glimpse of what is going to be coming out of the Intel booth at CES.   Yup, the display booths are up now and presenter people are practicing their spiels trying to get their displays all sinc'd up, etc.   So the reporters walking around are getting their first glimpses at the major announcements that will be repeated endlessly at the booths over the next week.

I find it interesting that Intel is trying to shotgun marry MS to Google in an attempt to get a really satisfying new OS out of the pair of them .....

Mebbe this will Tazer Google's ass into actually moving off their dime on Chrome/Android now.   MS, don't bother with the Tazer, them cardiac paddles don't even make MS twitch any more .....  

MS ain't got no head and until they sew on a new one they ain't going anywhere or doing nothing, period.

Please note, this idea does not have any level of approval by Google or by MS.    MS sales associates have been going around to the "supporting vendors" encouraging them not to participate (screams from the twisted arms are echoing from behind the facades on the show floor).


Roll Eyes    ohhhh my goodness, read the comments down below the article --- they are a hoot plus 2 at least.  

The young folks understand what the real problem is -- Windows 8 sux bad enough to kill off the PC industry all by itself.
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Re: CES 2014 -- The Empire Stikes Back !!!
Reply #1 - 01/04/14 at 05:34:31
 

Note: Microsoft runs their fiscal year from July 1 to July 1

Speaking of Microsoft, their fourth quarter 2013 results have been finalized for six months now and the dust from that is just now beginning to settle.  

Microsoft has NOT YET written off the remainder of Ballmer's disasters from 2013 so likely no new CEO will be willing to take the job  right now for fear of getting smeared with the resulting shite storm when the rest of the write offs hit the books.   Remember, the original hardware that is still sitting in warehouses has become technologically "aged out" now since it was made with early generation of Intel mobile chipsets, so processor power and battery life really suck compared to current products (plus the then 2 year old batteries will be getting a little aged sitting around uncharged for so long).    

Plus, RT is getting ready to drop out of the MS OS lineup completely.

So, if Microsoft is continuing to hold all that remaining bad debt away from their stockholders then they won't be forced to show it until it is time to take another big write off which will take place in July 1, 2014.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-57594435-75/microsofts-fourth-quarter-unrav...

The company reported fourth-quarter earnings of $4.97 billion, or 59 cents a share, on revenue of $19.9 billion. The results include a single $900 million inventory write-down for Surface RT that amounts to 7 cents a share.

Wow, and you have about twice that much more again to write off ????

PLEASE NOTE THAT MICROSOFT IS UNDER A CLASS ACTION SUIT AT THIS TIME FROM THEIR OWN STOCKHOLDERS FOR WITHHOLDING CRITICAL FISCAL INFORMATION FROM THEIR STOCKHOLDERS LEADING TO STOCKHOLDERS SUFFERING SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL REVERSALS IN 2013.

http://news.slashdot.org/story/13/08/14/1222245/class-action-suit-filed-again...


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Gee, no wonder MS can't find a new CEO who will take the job?  
Maybe they can get something stitched together in the next six months or so .....

        ..... this boy might be looking at some potentially actionable fraud charges resulting from information turned up in the class action suit.   The DA would logically be forced to do so if the class action is won by the plaintiffs and they decide to press the fraud charges.    

Certainly if MS does the same stuff again at the end of July 2014 it will be an easy decision for a DA to make as it would be a 2 year pattern of fraudulent behavior.
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Re: CES 2014 -- The Empire Stikes Back !!!
Reply #2 - 01/04/14 at 11:44:03
 

PLEASE NOTE THAT MICROSOFT IS UNDER A CLASS ACTION SUIT AT THIS TIME FROM THEIR OWN STOCKHOLDERS FOR WITHHOLDING CRITICAL FISCAL INFORMATION FROM THEIR STOCKHOLDERS LEADING TO STOCKHOLDERS SUFFERING SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL REVERSALS IN 2013.


Well,,, thats something that others have certainly gotten away with,,We saw people get slaughtered in '08 when stuff they bought dropped hard, & then it came out that the very people selling them those "Investment instruments" were shorting them AS They were Touting them as a great buy. Jail for the banksters? Nooo,, bailouts.. bonuses, trips, junkets, fancy hotels & high class hookers to make sure the best of the best stay,, cant have these losers leave, be a shame having to try to replace such wonderful people..
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Re: CES 2014 -- The Empire Stikes Back !!!
Reply #3 - 01/04/14 at 17:04:15
 

A stockbroker is protected by the brokerage agreement he had you sign.   Also, he has no direct causation to the downturns he may (or may not) have known about.

Ballmer is hanging out potentially for criminal fraud because he is the CEO of a corporation that he personally may have possibly directed to cook the books to carry hundreds of millions of losses from one year to the next, hiding these losses away from the current and potential stockholders (his ultimate bosses) resulting in his bosses losing their money unnecessarily.

His stockholders do have recourse, they can fire him (and have already done so).   They can sue MS for damages (and have already done so).   They can also press criminal fraud charges on him as an individual (and who knows, if Ballmer keeps on pissing them off they MAY decide to do that too).

Also, please remember that the $900,000,000 was to reduce the value of the existing inventory by about 1/3 when they tried to sell it at a strong discount.

What are you going to do about the remaining 2/3 of the Surface RT and early Surface Pro tablet inventory's value that is still on the books and is still sitting in a warehouse when the stuff finally hits Woot & Big Lots as obsolete and unsalable at 5 cents on the dollar?
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Re: CES 2014 -- Actual news from the CES floor
Reply #4 - 01/06/14 at 14:35:23
 

Panasonic and Firefox have pared up to put Firefox browser access on Panasonic televisions being sold worldwide.

Firefox is showing Firefox tablets, televisions and Firefox all-in-ones (yup, that's a desktop).   Most of these are aimed at Spain and the South American countries colonized by Spain back in the day -- Firefox is fairly big stuff down below the equator.

WebOS is doing the same thing on LG televisions, providing browser access for a large screen TV.

Android all-in-ones, android computer monitors, small 21" & 23" TV's that swing a built in android PC as part of the package .....  I count like 6 different announcements at the CES show itself and another 4 that predate it by a few weeks.

There is a whole WAD of new Chrome Laptops being announced, all costing between $225 and $275.   Some have decent screen sizes, memory and HD space.
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Re: CES 2014 -- News from the CES floor
Reply #5 - 01/07/14 at 01:21:39
 

WHAT DOES A 2014 DESKTOP PC LOOK LIKE ???



This is your format for full sized Intel processors (quad core I-7, the big un's).

When they take the thing apart, notice that more than half of it is power supply ---- if they had put the power supply in the cord (similar to a laptop) there would have been enough space to put in an upgradable video card.

But since the thing supports up to 3 monitors already, for business it is just about fixed up for video already.

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Re: CES 2014 -- News from the CES floor
Reply #6 - 01/07/14 at 01:46:24
 

Microsoft doesn't even have a booth at CES 2014.    Ballmer isn't present at all, not even walking around looking at the show.    MS sales associates are walking around and having small meetings in the meeting rooms with certain select customers to answer their questions in private.

Intel did the keynote address on day one and had nothing much to say (MS and Google had told them to forget about their dual OS thing).   No new wave of vaporwear chipsets, what you got is what you got for next year.

Attendees are saying it is mainly a refrigerator/washing machine and big flat screen television show.   Nothing much is really new, really.

CES 2014 s sorta dull, in other words .....  

None of the old school Silicone Valley or Washington State  boys have all that much to contribute any more.    I find this sad, but not unexpected.

The real show for 2014 will be the summer show in Taipei.

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Remember I said Ubuntu would be there at the show pitching at full governmental level uses?

Here is their "test case" that they are using to support their claims -- all of the French Police computer systems now are running Ubuntu, all 37,000 of them.    They calculate a hard factual 40% year on year savings for cost of operating their computer systems on Ubuntu rather than MS/Novell/etc.

https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/sites/default/files/11-apresentacao-stephanedumond.p
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you may need to type this into your browser as it is too long for some browsers to auto click

Governments are being driven to consider moves like this due to inherent and severe security issues that have been seen from MS lately.   The fact they can continue to use their existing hardware for another 10 years or so is just pouring gravy on these calculations .....

Face it, you need 3rd party softwares to make MS functional and secure enough to use, and that only adds to the cost and complexity of maintaining a MS/Novell/etc. system wide installation.

Ubuntu is being asked for 10 year lock in and support on their enterprise softwares (something Red Hat has been doing for years and years).

Red Hat is at the show too ....  smiling and greeting folks who are shopping new secure government/enterprise level solutions.

Red Hat needs no examples, they have been doing it world-wide for well over a decade now.
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Reply #7 - 01/07/14 at 03:29:20
 

And here is your marvelous new Tegra K1 whoopie mobile chip that won't make it into many different products next year because of VERY HIGH COST and use of restricted proprietary drivers.

The only benefit you will actually see from this introduction is it will make the other guys like Mali up their game a bit.    Next year.   Maybe.



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Here is some clarification, this year's K1 will get quad core A15s to start with and get a dual core A57s with the A57s coming into play very late in the year.

Bad news seems to be that the new Qualcomm Krait 805 is going to kick K1's butt again for price value performance and the existing Krait800 might well take all the wind out of its sales starting now, again, just like it did last year.
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Re: CES 2014 -- News from the CES floor
Reply #8 - 01/07/14 at 05:24:12
 

REMEMBER,   AMD and INTEL are both ARM liscensees .....   and Android is technically open source software.


http://liliputing.com/2014/01/intel-amd-pushing-windows-android-dual-os-strat...

So, AMD and INTEL apparently both feel it is OK to mash it all in together into an integrated experience with MS Windows.

http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/6/5282502/intel-confirms-dual-os-computers-tha...

Note that both AMD and INTEL can sneak in an ARM core or two inside their existing processor designs, it is within the current ARM license parameters.

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Now, having announced this mis-mash thing the AMD/INTEL alliance needs to convince Google and Microsoft to agree to play along with it willingly.

Microsoft has no real direction at the moment, so their headless nondirectedness might just allow them to play along with the idea for a while.   Especially if it could allow them to claim some co-ownership and then sue a bunch of people later on, or better yet shut it all down with numerous lawsuits.

Google wants "to do no evil" but actually jumping into bed with Darth Vader might just be a little too much for them to stomach, especially since they KNOW what sort of reception the idea will get from Google's open source grassroots folks.

It will be interesting to see this play out .....    sounds a bit more like a sitcom script than a business plan right now.


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Do you remember the EC's UN based attempt to "unify open source word processing formats" world-wide about 8 years ago?    Being all fair about it, every UN nation got an equal voice in the process and Microsoft then went and bribed all the smaller African and Island nation's various delegates to vote their way?

Yep, crawl into bed with ol' Darth Vader and he'll slip you the greasy tentacle he will.    Then he'll sue you for squalling so durn loudly when the probing fun gets started.

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Re: CES 2014 -- News from the CES floor
Reply #9 - 01/08/14 at 17:47:24
 

This is not news, but the price has gone down some more, which is good.   Chrome OS laptops are $200 and up, and the plain Jane Ubuntu box is only $150.

Zotac to launch mini PCs with ARM chips, Android or Ubuntu for under $150




Hard fact is you can do the Ubuntu box yourself for less than $100 using a refurb Dell unit that has come back off lease, so this Xontec box isn't the best deal going as most of the Dell boxes come with a faster processor, largeer hard drive, an optical CD drive and an older version of Windows (like Win7) you know, the good old Windows stuff that might jest be worth keeping as a backup OS.

Yes, you have people supplying retail Android and Linux boxes and some folks like Intel and AMD trying to say an Android/Windows combo box might be the best of all worlds.  

Windows is becoming less and less desirable as a separate "total lock in" as the apps jest ain't there for it like it is in Android.

Next year, counting Chrome OS laptops and all them all-in-one monitors and Linux browsing TVs approx 30% or more of desktop/laptop units sold will be open source.

When the number of Android/Linux derived desktop/laptop units sold goes past 50% then we might just have to say the age of Windows has passed on into the dusts of time.

Next year?   Naw, I think it will take a couple of years to happen.
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Reply #10 - 01/09/14 at 07:00:11
 
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Reply #11 - 01/09/14 at 07:58:59
 

Pine, I actually went to Barnes and Noble this morning after visiting the doc to get my insulin prescription adjusted.

I have been tracking the Magazine rack watching for the declining numbers of Windows specific publications.

There are now only two general computing publications that had Windows something on the front cover.

All the rest had Steam, or Linux or Android on the front covers.   There were 4 Apple publications.   There were 3 gamebox type magazines that had some Windows stuff inside it, but it was Xbox not Windows per se.

20 publications with Steam, or Linux or Android on the front covers.
4 Apple/I-OS publications
3 Gameboxes (all sorts, but included Xbox)
2 Windows publications   (only one (1) was a PC specific publication, the other was laptop only)  
1 ChromeOS (laptop) publication

There were 3 publications either about Raspberry Pi or with it as the main cover story -- there was more Pi out on the rack than Windows.

There were more main cover articles about the next Ubuntu flavor than Windows anything by a factor of 3x.

Now, Barnes and Noble is a British concern, so you might be seeing some international bias in their magazine rack, but I can remember seeing more Computer Shopper type magazines out on the rack for just the bits and pieces than what we have now for Windows in total.

If the magazine rack is a social relevance barometer then Windows will slip into irrelevance in the next year or so.
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Reply #12 - 01/09/14 at 08:23:46
 
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you and I are OLD... its a differnt era.. Computer Shopper .. I remember buying those all the time ... they were the size of a phone book.  I bought my parts for my first three homebuilt PC's from those pages...

I still go out to CNET site for downloads, and Tucows.
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Reply #13 - 01/09/14 at 08:42:05
 

Yeah, we may be old but we have done this computing thing since it was an IBM 8080 with DOS 2.0 living in floppy B all the time.

Kids who just start computing now will start with a phone or a tablet with share time on the family PC.   Their choice of browser will mean more to them than their actual OS will mean.

They won't ever build their own box (can't really do that any more).

They will get to use a Raspberry Pi though (school will give them one as part of the education process).

With the net and their buds all getting them Googlized to share homework and such like tricks they will grow up being OS flexible/agnostic and hopefully they won't have to donate MS bowl blood for 20 years like we did.

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Reply #14 - 01/10/14 at 05:33:17
 
Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 01/09/14 at 08:42:05:

Yeah, we may be old but we have done this computing thing since it was an IBM 8080 with DOS 2.0 living in floppy B all the time.

Kids who just start computing now will start with a phone or a tablet with share time on the family PC.   Their choice of browser will mean more to them than their actual OS will mean.

They won't ever build their own box (can't really do that any more).

They will get to use a Raspberry Pi though (school will give them one as part of the education process).

With the net and their buds all getting them Googlized to share homework and such like tricks they will grow up being OS flexible/agnostic and hopefully they won't have to donate MS bowl blood for 20 years like we did.

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LOL, yup we are old... I have a box full of 3.5 and a few 5 inch floppies, got the full 12 disk version of windows 3.1, got 5 disk set of dos 6 and a few fun programs for hacking old dos dial-ups. And of course a ton of games... heck I even have a 14 disk set of auto cad 5 or 6. Got Rott, Doom and a couple other 1st time online games.
My old comp 3.5 disc drive went tits up so I bought an external one for 12 bucks online...dang motor in it is so week it won't spin up a few disc's because they are kinda old and sticky, got to figure how to loosen them up to get them to spin easier without ruining what is on them
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