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Reply #75 - 06/29/14 at 06:21:50
 
Again Rat; simple solution: Palestinians simply quit kidnaping people, launching rockets and strapping bombs to kids. Actually try living in the real world, contribute to the world and pull your standard of living slightly above the level of poop floating in a toilet. The ENTIRE solution is in their own hands. They sure as hell don't need anymore people like you egging their fight on.
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Reply #76 - 06/29/14 at 06:25:56
 


So now all the cool kids have decided Israel is a bully state that should no longer be eligible for international investment because of its so-called oppression of the Palestinians.

The Divest Israel campaign has captured the zeal of the cultural and academic elite, who place a Jewish State borne out of the Holocaust in the same category as apartheid South Africa. They want Israelis marginalized as once were the Afrikaners.

Last week at its convention in Detroit, a committee of the Presbyterian church voted to request a boycott of three American companies who supply material and technology to the Israeli Army.

Outside Cobo Center, where the church was meeting, a line of well-heeled protesters held signs condemning Israel and touting the divestment movement. The demonstrators included one young man wearing a yarmulke and a t-shirt that read, “Another Jew for Divestment.” Nice touch.

What is it they want Americans to divest from? A rare, functioning Middle East democracy that operates under the rule of law and treats all its citizens — men, women, Arab, Jew — with justice and respect.

A nation enduring an average of nearly one rocket attack a day launched by Palestinian militants and their supporters; many of those rockets are targeted at schools and residential neighborhoods.

A nation forced by an international community that purports not to negotiate with terrorists to sit across the bargaining table with those who have slaughtered their children in vicious terrorist strikes.

A nation surrounded by neighbors who are pledged to its extermination, and yet is blamed for all of the instability and unrest in its region.

And still under today’s bizarre hierarchy of victimhood, it’s the Palestinians who wear the mantle of the oppressed.

Israel is blamed for the stagnant peace process, even though the Palestinians have repeatedly broken the conditions established for resuming talks, most recently by forming a unity government with Hamas, the terrorist group that controls Gaza — the primary launching pad for those rockets.

Even the United States, supposedly Israel’s best friend, is ignoring its own law against providing support for any nation that aligns with terrorists by continuing to fund the Palestinian Authority to the tune of $440 million this year. With Hamas in the PA fold, that’s a direct subsidy of terror.

The Palestinians pioneered and perfected terrorism as a means of gaining political leverage. They’ve strapped bombs to their own young people and sent them forward to murder other young people. And for this they’ve been given a seat at the table, where they stubbornly refuse to acknowledge the right of the Jewish state to exist.

Israel has provided a substantial return on international investments in the form of cutting edge technology and lifesaving biomedical breakthroughs.

The Palestinians have taken the money the world has given them and used it to fund hate and violence.

Maybe we should divest in them.



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Reply #77 - 06/29/14 at 06:59:17
 
WebsterMark wrote on 06/29/14 at 06:21:50:
Again Rat; simple solution: Palestinians simply quit kidnaping people, launching rockets and strapping bombs to kids. Actually try living in the real world, contribute to the world and pull your standard of living slightly above the level of poop floating in a toilet. The ENTIRE solution is in their own hands. They sure as hell don't need anymore people like you egging their fight on.
Well Mr. propaganda parrot, see if you can spot the real terrorists in this article:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/in-photos-israeli-bulldozers-raze-bedouin-commun...
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Reply #78 - 06/29/14 at 07:14:11
 
Rat, this entire episode is yet one of thousands that all have the same origin. If the Palestinians just quit trying to kill people and tended to the needs of establishing their own identity, their own nation,  none of this would happen. Simple bottom line for this problem to go away: if the Palestinians stop trying to kill Jews, peace will follow. It's ALWAYS the  Palestinians  that break peace, always.
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Reply #79 - 06/29/14 at 08:15:16
 
WebsterMark wrote on 06/29/14 at 06:25:56:
A nation enduring an average of nearly one rocket attack a day launched by Palestinian militants and their supporters; many of those rockets are targeted at schools and residential neighborhoods.

Have you ever bothered to ask yourself this most important question, "Who Benefits?"
These rocket attacks always give Israel an excuse to use force in retaliation.....YIPPEEE! for the IDF!!!! Really a sucky situation for the oppressed.  Now let's consider the rockets. The don't seem to explode when they land.... the stick in the ground. So people that have their land stolen, houses either stolen if an Israeli wants it, or knocked down if it isn't nice enough to steal, people that have their crops and trees destroyed so they can't earn a living....people that have their water contaminated with Israel sewage....people that are routinely beaten and harassed in hopes they will just up a go to some far away country because they are in the way of the expansion of Greater Yisreal.....people that are shot while in captivity by the IDF......so you say it is these people that are going to shoot basically what amounts to bottle rockets in order to bring extreme pain on themselves by the people that specialize in false flag deception....rockets that never seem to hit anything of importance....... and what became of the billion$ that the United States spent on a sophisticated missile defense system?











Of course the Israel media always seem to have proof that Hamas is guilty almost immediately after these bottle rocket attacks.....the proof comes from photos of scarey looking Arabs launching these pretty painted rockets that become rust buckets before they land......good thing the "terrorists" are nice enough to supply pictures.




Retaliation from the zionists is always swift and fierce...







........BUT I am certain Bibi Satanyahoo and his Fourth Reich ZioNazi's would be happy to know that you are a big fan of them and support collective punishment....(a war crime!)

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Reply #80 - 06/29/14 at 15:48:02
 
Okay, so your dog in this fight is that this is all being perpetrated by the US military machine interested only in keeping this conflict going?
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Reply #81 - 06/29/14 at 18:37:09
 
WebsterMark wrote on 06/29/14 at 15:48:02:
Okay, so your dog in this fight is that this is all being perpetrated by the US military machine interested only in keeping this conflict going?

........your response proves that you:
1. Do not read what others post... or.....
2. Have no grasp on reality... or.....
2. Both of the above.
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Reply #82 - 06/30/14 at 05:24:45
 
That's a bit harsh Rat.....especially so since it's not close to being true.
1) I read your post
2) grasp on reality? Rat, you posted a video a 9/11 hoax video a 3rd grader could spot as fake. You think it's feasible "Mission Impossible" style plastic surgery was used so "undead" 9/11 plane victim Barbara Olsen could rejoin her husband under a different identity.

I'm going to go out on a lime here and say when it comes to recognizing reality, you might want to check with so some other than yourself.
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Reply #83 - 06/30/14 at 06:17:27
 
WebsterMark wrote on 06/30/14 at 05:24:45:
That's a bit harsh Rat.....especially so since it's not close to being true.
1) I read your post
2) grasp on reality? Rat, you posted a video a 9/11 hoax video a 3rd grader could spot as fake. You think it's feasible "Mission Impossible" style plastic surgery was used so "undead" 9/11 plane victim Barbara Olsen could rejoin her husband under a different identity.

I'm going to go out on a lime here and say when it comes to recognizing reality, you might want to check with so some other than yourself.

There you go again....you just said nothing that relates to the subject of this thread or even to defend how your statement about the US military machine interested only in keeping this conflict going had anything to do with anything I said. You just attempt to change the subject because you are thought challenged. Yes I posted a 9/11 video that turned out to be fake and I removed it and apologized as soon as I found out. That was a long time ago on a thread that was controversial and was “accidently” erased and flushed down the memory hole. BUT now that video that showed flashes in the windows of Building seven has become your only armory is really quite pathetic.








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Reply #84 - 06/30/14 at 07:40:16
 
All you do is show photos of grieving Palestinians  who in fact started this mess and continue this mess.  

My point has always been there is only one side who can stop this instantly and that's the Palestinians. All they have to do is stop trying to take over Israel and build their own country. That's it; that's all they have to do.
(actually, if Israel wanted and if they had the same blood thirsty habits the Palestinians have, they could end this tomorrow too.....)

The video is not the thing per se Rat. Sure, anyone can fall for a hoax but in this case, part of the hoax was that a camera was found lying around for 10 years that just happened to have a film in it that you desperately needed to prove your conspiracy. Reality check; that's a bit too convenient isn't it. A hoax video put up shortly after the event is one thing, but out of a camera lying around for 10 years and that didn't raise you alarms?

But you didn't mention you actually told me that plastic surgery was a possible explanation for Ted Olson not being sufficiently mournful over his wife's death because in reality, she assumed the identity of someone else and 'remarried' Ted after plastic surgery.

sorry dude but that pretty much removes you from the pool of those of us in reality.



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Reply #85 - 06/30/14 at 08:54:34
 
WebsterMark wrote on 06/30/14 at 07:40:16:
All you do is show photos of grieving Palestinians  who in fact started this mess and continue this mess.  

So you are claiming that in 1948 the Palestinians invaded a country already occupied by Ashkenazi Khazarians, then started a Nakba, (ethnic cleansing). These Palestinians attacked the current long standing resident Khazarians in cities and villages throughout Palestine. Now to justify their evil actions, the Palestinians claim to be eternal victims and everybody always is picking on them for no reason and they claim to be the chosen favorite pets of the invisible playmate in the sky and if you say anything bad about then you are anti cement or some such BS......yeah sure they started it.....NOT!
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Reply #86 - 06/30/14 at 08:59:43
 
WebsterMark wrote on 06/30/14 at 07:40:16:
My point has always been there is only one side who can stop this instantly and that's the Palestinians. All they have to do is stop trying to take over Israel and build their own country. That's it; that's all they have to do.

Take over Israel????.....you really are delusional and history challenged.



where is Israel on this 1849 map?

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Reply #87 - 06/30/14 at 09:07:38
 
WebsterMark wrote on 06/30/14 at 07:40:16:
sorry dude but that pretty much removes you from the pool of those of us in reality.

Thank goodness I am not part of the concept that you consider "reality"!
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Reply #88 - 06/30/14 at 12:44:11
 
Netanyahu vows 'Hamas will pay' after bodies of 3 kidnapped Israeli teens found

well, the $hit's gonna hit the fan now.
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Reply #89 - 07/01/14 at 13:25:34
 
WebsterMark wrote on 06/30/14 at 12:44:11:
Netanyahu vows 'Hamas will pay' after bodies of 3 kidnapped Israeli teens found

well, the $hit's gonna hit the fan now.

Calm down Webster, I already know that you approve of collective punishment  (a war crime and israel’s official policy of harming the innocent)…..but you seem to be orgasmic about it.

In the past two weeks in occupied Palestine, the three Israeli settler teens disappeared and were killed. Also in the same 2 weeks 10 Palestinians (including a 7 and 15 year old) were killed. Dozens of Palestinian homes were demolished in the past two weeks. Over 570 more Palestinians were kidnapped in these two weeks making more than 6000 abducted Palestians languishing in Israeli gulags. 1500 Palestinian homes invaded without due process. 12 million native Palestinians still await their freedom from colonial occupation and displacement. And Israeli leaders are promising to “do more” revenge.

Satanyahu and his government have shamelessly exploited the disappearance of the settler boys to break up the tentative steps by Hamas and the Fatah organization of Palestinian Authority President Mamoud Abbas toward forming a “national unity” government, ahead of elections next year. The agreement, struck in April and signed on June 1, was intended to end the current division of the Palestinian territories between the Hamas-controlled Gaza and Fatah-controlled West Bank.

Satanyahoo does not want peace, he wants their land……. So in April, Satanyahoo cancelled negotiations with the Palestinian Authority on the grounds that Hamas refuses to officially recognize Israel …….but Israel refuses to define its borders….so any recognition now would be recognizing a state without borders…..a state that fully intends to expand and absorb all Palestinian land (a country that was already there to begin with). Well, Satanyahoo states that there will never be a 2 state solution….the Palestinians must either leave or be subject to continuing brutality.

Satanyahoo has not provided any proof that the killings were done by Hamas or the Palestinian Authority….or anybody…..they are merely guilty by accusation…….but of coarse that is good enough for a rabid Zionist like you…..right Webster?

It matters not to you or Satanyahoo that HAMAS.....which was created by Israel ......has in fact denied any connection to the three teens. The reality is that actually makes sense when you think about it. After all, HAMAS and FATAH need world support for their new unity government. A stunt like kidnapping and killing three teenagers destroys the very public support the unity government needs. This is clearly something HAMAS is not going to do, but of course is perfect for Israel to do. Then Israel gets to attack HAMAS……and all of Palestine.....which allows Satanyahoo to fulfil his promise to wreck the unity government. .....I ask you again......WHO BENEFITS?????

Would the Israeli government kill to get its way????......... yes…..remember  the Lavon affair, and Israel's attack on the USS Liberty. In both cases, Israel tried to frame Egypt for actions carried out by Israel. On the basis of that history alone, prudence demands skepticism of Israel's claims.
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