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Reply #180 - 07/21/14 at 15:01:50
 
Lest We Forget… these things were predicted in the Bible.........

http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2014/07/21/lest-we-forget-68/


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Reply #181 - 07/21/14 at 22:00:39
 
Are there really any good "links" that tell the "real truth"???? not some biased opinion of a few people who "claim" that they are the authority?
Not just about the last post.....but all the posts.... so many are one-sided.....and tell the reporters "point of view".
History is so miss-construed that who can really decipher what is really the "truth"???
So you read it on the internet? and the sources are "pinpointed"?
Are you so sure?
No one was there when Christ went to trial... well...anyone alive today
No one was there when Rome fell....
Or when Gengis Kahn took over the Asian contenant...
Or when Noah, talked to God....
Crap... I would hate to be our future great, great, great grandkids.....
Spindoctors all of us!
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Reply #182 - 07/22/14 at 05:21:39
 
old_rider wrote on 07/21/14 at 22:00:39:
Are there really any good "links" that tell the "real truth"???? not some biased opinion of a few people who "claim" that they are the authority?

I have posted many....dud you bother to read them. The massacre is not faked.....it's not somebody's opinion that Israel is as they like to refer when they do their bloody ethic cleanse of Gaza...."mowing the grass'.

So, does it bother you that a large group of humans are slaughtered for false reasons by a group of people that are conquering a country using false reasoning...... does it bother you to see the innocent people whose bodies are mutilated and you realize that this isn't some reporters fantasy..... maybe what bothers you and should is that you only get one sided reporting from the corporate networks that claim Israel is the victim.....never the aggressor.......yes. maybe that is what bothers you as you did state that there are so many are one-sided.....and tell the reporters "point of view".

So it maybe that you are waking up to the fact that CNNFOXANCCBS...ETC.... are government propaganda mouthpieces and liars.......no news there.
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Reply #183 - 07/22/14 at 05:33:23
 
old_rider wrote on 07/21/14 at 22:00:39:
History is so miss-construed that who can really decipher what is really the "truth"???
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In the past the "powers that be"could get by with writing false history. Thanks to the internet....that is no longer true.
9/11 is a good example... the government created a story and the media reported it ...Osama bin Laden in a cave directed 19 religious party hardy fanatics to attack America because they hated our freedoms..... Yep! ...believable ...... well to some.

You are correct ....moch of history is false.

A good history book is Howard Zinns, "A People's History of the United States: 1492 to Present"..... it's on Ebay for 10 bucks.



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Reply #184 - 07/22/14 at 06:48:09
 
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No one was there when Christ went to trial... well...anyone alive today


True.

Which means the Apocalyptic Rapture bus is never coming. The rapture-ready crowd may as well quit waiting and start walking on their own two feet.

• Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom. (Matthew 16)
• Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place. (Matthew 24,  Mark 13, Luke 21)


Jefferson cut that bullpucky—his exact word was "dunghills"—out of the Bible for good reason: it's a proven false prophecy.

As to end-times book Revelations, Jefferson said, "It is between fifty and sixty years since I read it [the Apocalypse], and I then considered it merely the ravings of a maniac, no more worthy nor capable of explanation than the incoherences of our own nightly dreams." ~Thomas Jefferson, letter to General Alexander Smyth, Jan. 17, 1825

• ...the time is near. (Revelation 1)
• ...the things which must soon take place. And behold, I am coming quickly...Behold, I am coming quickly...Yes, I am coming quickly(Revelation 22)


Again, proven false, if the word quickly retains the slightest shred of any meaning.

But we've got Americans who fervently hope for disaster, war, death, and destruction.  It's some seriously sick stuff. "Ravings of a maniac" in Jefferson's terms.

"End Times theology declares that the Jewish people must maintain control of Israel and Jerusalem, and retake the Al-Aqsa Mosque (a/k/a the Dome of the Rock), or Jesus won't return. Period. Understand, they are talking about mankind's ultimate salvation. And if that means embracing foretold disasters and wars including the Battle of Armageddon, so be it...Thus comes the central political reality explored in Waiting for Armageddon: that Evangelicals risk creating what the Rev. Barbara Rossing calls 'a self-fulfilling prophesy of death and destruction.'"
~David Heilbroner | Evangelicals, Israel, and the End of the World
www.huffingtonpost.com/david-heilbroner/evangelicals-israel-and-t_b_391351.html

“'There’s no place for that mosque. It has to be removed.' At a Pre-Tribulation conference, in which hundreds of evangelicals gather to discuss the state of Israel and the end of days...'And so when Israel, either as a nation or as a people, or Jews as a people, are a pawn in someone else’s theology, then we get into dangerous territory.'"
~ Will Wlizlo | Evangelical Christians Wait for Armageddon
www.utne.com/mind-and-body/evangelical-christians-wait-for-armageddon-2.aspx

Basically, evangelical fundamentalists are willing to make the Jews into their "pawns" and push Israel into politically suicidal policies to help crank up their Rapture bus' rusted engine.

Thomas Jefferson characterized the hate-hell-destruction-Armageddon "Christians" of his day as being actually Atheists:

"I can never join Calvin in addressing his god. He was indeed an Atheist, which I can never be; or rather his religion was Daemonism. If ever man worshipped a false god, he did." ~Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823

A false god indeed! The evangelicals' malevolent bronze age skygod is nothing close to the "Nature's God" that Jefferson wrote into the Declaration of Independence.

David Voelker (1993) Who is Nature's God? The Hanover Historical Review.  
history.hanover.edu/hhr/hhr93_1.html

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Reply #185 - 07/22/14 at 17:17:22
 
Truth, in ‘reporting or recording’ something.

History is written by the Victor. Always has been, always will be.
(What part about being a, “VICTOR”, do you not understand)

Recently, ‘History’ has been re-written, or tried to be, ‘re-written’,.
News about a religious group, saying the, “Holocaust”,  never happened.
Some even have said:  “911 never happened”.

So, guessing this is not a, ’NEW’, invention ?
Ya think someone has done this before ?

In 1969, Man, landed on the Moon.
It was a HISTORIC event !!!!!
Timed to coincide with something that happened in 1869,
which was ALSO, watched by the WORLD, (just not as fast).
The First Transcontinental Railroad in North America.  
(The, ‘Golden Spike’, was driven)

Back to 1969. The Lunar Landing Module, disconnected from the Lunar Orbiting Module.
In 1969 the LLM, had a State Of The Art Computer on board,
which the highly  intelligent scientists worked 3  years creating.
(Which today is surpassed in computing power,
by the 9.99  Digital watch you can buy at a mart-mart)

   This is  WHAT Happened !!!!!!!!
As the LLM made it’s decent,  
LLM said: "Huston, we have a problem, computer has overloaded”
Huston: “LLM Abort, I say again, Abort landing”
LLM: “ Huston taking manual control”
Huston:  “LLM Abort Landing, I say again, Abort Landing.
             Fire Retro Rockets, I repeat, Fire Retro rockets”.

  (A Pause)
LLM:  “Huston, the Eagle has landed”

This is ALL  the  WORLD heard:
  “The Eagle Has Landed”.


In the mid 70’s. had got,  the state of the art,
new fangled com put ers, in the office.
Some one had a, (and again very new state of the art),
this new thing called a,  CD, which with lots of fenGLAING,
got it plugged into the back of the computer, and working.

The CD’s, (I think their were 12 of them)
were of a, ‘encyclopedia ’.
On them, THAT, is what we all heard !

Let’s see if you can find that today.    LOLOL

History, is, rewritten, according to the,
Victor, Political Power, or Religion, who ever has the means to do it.

Just a note, as the LLM lifted off the moon,
I was in a gas station, they had the Radio on,
it was broadcasting the lift off.
(I was their buying gas for 32.5 a gal,
as up the street they had gas at 32.9, “Gas Wars”)

A Elderly gentleman was talking,
I said:   “Shuss, I want to hear this”.
He was quiet. After it was over, he turned to me and said:
“Ya know, dant ant real ya know,  they tried to fool me,
saying da Marchins were invading, I fell for it,
found out later, it vasdn’t true, so yous don’t  get fooled,
its all ust a sim o lation’.

Stop  the money, coming to, BOTH sides,
from Several Countries, and they will talk.

And who is right and who is wrong?
Heck if I know, but stop the money, THEY will sort it out!
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Reply #186 - 07/22/14 at 17:29:57
 
What is happening in, Ireland, today ?

Is, one Religious  group still bombing the other,
and Visa Versa ?

How about, in the 1700’s, the Catholic priests in south Canada,
against the Puritans, in North America.

Or how about, King Somalian, and his ’slaves’, in his salt mines.
Are they all still at each other, ‘fighting’’. ,

Or have they, ’sorted it out’ ?
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Reply #187 - 07/31/14 at 20:14:56
 
This is a good site. I have no quarrel with Israel, but I am getting tired of the killing. The numbers go against Israel. Here is another side.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etXAm-OylQQ&list=PL9NSHBs6At_JlpDfjWYCwcKnuYDv...
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Reply #188 - 08/01/14 at 01:24:00
 
Thank you.

This clip is dedicated to all those who believe Palestine is a mere geographical notation and that the area was uninhabited, semideserted wasteland before the Jews emigrated into ... Palestine.



Incidentally, my In-Laws are from Bethlehem, a once 80%Christian town which is now 90% muslim... My FiL's surname is DAVID.

David of Bethlehem.

There are currently ONE living, surviving DAVID left in Bethlehem.
Once my aunt (my FiL's junior sister) dies, there weill be no more Christian DAVIDs left in their home town, a town in which the family has been living for the last 3000 documented years.

They survived deportations, foreign dominations and wars of all sorts.

Indifference and ill faith has wiped out one of the most ancient bloodlines.
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Reply #189 - 08/01/14 at 06:16:48
 
Israel is engaged in de-arabizing, or ethnic cleansing. The goal is to remove all of the palestinians. For that reason they avoid negotiation and choose war. They point out that they are "victims" so that the world will turn a blind eye. Behind it is a land grab, and an opportunity to profit. It is a case of apartheid all over, simple racism.
Callous killing.
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Reply #190 - 08/01/14 at 08:23:48
 
Really creely?ethnic cleansing? Israel could wipe out everyone in Gaza tomorrow if they wanted, but they do not. They have the technology to do, but here's a question for you useful idiots out there who cry for the poor Freedom Fighters of Hamas: do you doubt for one second if Hamas had the arsenal Israel has they wouldn't hesitate more than a second to blow Israel off the map? They'd do it in a heartbeat, regardless how many Palestinians were killed too as long as they killed those dogs, the Jews.
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Reply #191 - 08/01/14 at 10:34:57
 
Oh gee..... Look at that....Those fun loving Hamas freedom fighters broke the truce and kidnapped a solider. Now there's a surprise......
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Reply #192 - 08/01/14 at 16:14:31
 
Watch the youtube video I posted above. Hamas is at war with Israel. Palestine is at war with Israel. Now look at the body counts for both sides. Look at the Israeli wall surrounding the Palestinians.
Mortars + suicide bombers vs jets, tanks, and a standing army (all payed for by the US).
It looks like ethnic cleansing to me. Part of the myth is "poor victim Israel". Israel likes that myth, it provides an excuse for them to do what they want. They have a wet rope around Palestine, and every day it shrinks a little more in the sun. Slow and easy.
No wonder Hamas lobs motars, builds tunnels. Look at the body count.

I'm tired of wasting tax dollars on Israel when we need the money here at home.
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Reply #193 - 08/01/14 at 16:31:00
 
Palestine, has a population growth rate of 3.7%... birth rate of 30 per 1,000, vs death rate of 3.8 per 1,000...

If Israel is conducting a program of ethnic cleansing... it clearly ain't working...
Hitler was doing ethnic cleansing... during that time, the Jewish population was not growing... it was being wiped of the map...
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Reply #194 - 08/01/14 at 17:04:57
 
Quote:
It looks like ethnic cleansing to me.


It looks like winning the war to me.

This aint a T-ball game between six year olds. When you are fighting a war, running up the score is how you win and how you get it over with. And when one side does that everyone is better off in the long run. Unpleasant, but true nevertheless
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