Was thinking maybe for the future for me and the missus' we could go smaller for around town riding. Has anyone dealt with or seen one of these bikes???

http://www.clevelandcyclewerks.com/ccwbikes/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKnwE1FJBFc

Want to buy new.....and  she doesn't want a "sport bike" LOL, I had originally bought her a 2012 250 ninja, she went for the 250 rebel instead. Then wanted something to keep up with the group on highway runs of 60mph, so we got her the savage...but she is small and its kinda big, at the moment she can handle it, but in the future... i'm sure smaller will be better.
I realize they are Chinese 250s, but those motors are cheap to replace and some of them are actually bullet proof, that's why i'm asking if anyone has dealt with or actually seen one. I actually have a dealer about 3 miles down the road...or so the site says, guess where I am headed today?

Dang things only weigh in wet at 295lbs! And i'm sure I could put a slightly bigger tank on one. Besides, its already bobbed and would be easy to mod for me LOL! Plus it says kick start is available....talk about old school!

I don't have much faith in Cleveland Cycle Works motorcycles or the company.  I don't think they will be around much longer.

I appreciate the desire to have a light weight bike for running around town.  I think the best one is the Honda 250 Nighthawk.  I think they were discontinued around 2008 but low mileage used ones are frequently listed on Craigslist.  

They are also about 300 lbs and they handle beautifully, really great for low speed maneuvers.  And they have enough power to get around town or drive country roads.

Resale is usually high because they are so desirable.  There is also the Sym 150 cc.  It's made in Taiwan and the engine is based on the Honda 125, it is light and has enough power to move about in a small town.

I agree,.. the TU250 is lighter, but taller... Not much advantage...
CBR250 is the best handling 250 out there,.. but it's a bit crotchy looking...
Low, light, and capable... the Savage will be hard to beat...

oldNslow wrote on 12/06/13 at 08:28:33:


Yeah, that was a concern, have been soul searchin' and net searchin' too, and there are a few owners out there that have posted about the bikes. Low grade gauges, seat springs need upgrade, bigger sprocket give extra on top, different tank and some even bored the engine ever so slightly for 16hp-ish. I personally would not do the engine bore part, more heat less life on the engine.
I liked the little 250 rebel we had for her but the dang thing was a pain to work on. And I've gotten used to the wife's savage and the little ccw's are a BASIC work horse and cheap to boot.
Mind you this is future planning, these things might not be around in 10 years when we will really start needing smaller lightweight bikes, by then we will probably have something else on the roads but i'm thinking about getting at least one to play with or maybe find a used one I can go pick up.

Nope, sorry , looking for a lean back long bar mini or small cruiser type.
I had a Honda 350 scrambler when I was young and although it was a really great bike I did not find the seating system  very desirable.

I am actually looking at bobber type that I can add a really tall back rest to lean back against and have bars that come to me...not ape, put back to me. I want a lazy boy rider! that weighs under 400lbs!

Rofl... my minds mush...

Went down to the local scooter shop, he happened to have one of the ccw heist in (had been laid down, the forward controls were being replaced)... it was 3 years old and had been stored outside.
All the "add-on" stuff was toast, chrome peeled, metal rusted, but the factory stuff that was on there was still looking good, except for the engine case....it looked a bit pitted in places (that happens here in florida even if store it in the garage if you don't stay on top of it).

It was VERY light, the frame welds were clean, the carb was Korean I think, tank was a 2.5, forks still looked new, all the switches worked, seat could have used some padding and a different spring setup, the speedo was REALLY small (about 2" around), but overall it didn't look like a Honda quality or Yamaha quality more like a local builder had built it, good overall but could be personalized to fit the rider easily.

But the shop owner did say he is getting in a couple of royal enfields next week, so i'm taking my Harley up there and letting him sell it on consignment (promises me to get what I want on it) and in a couple weeks i'll go check them out.

Overall the years I've ridden, I still haven't found that ONE bike that I fit on perfectly, even though I have gotten some really close, not one of them has been my old sneeker that i'll never stop wearing. In the last ten years, I have had at least 8 bikes, and in the 30 years before that, probably 10 more, and STILL I have not found it.

I'm gonna go cheap and see what I can do, either that or i'm going to become a stock holder in Harbor Freight and get stuff to build something with (which I am on the way to doing anyway).

Didn't know they made one.... kinda looks like a rebel... I will head down to the local dealer and see one, if they have a floor model.