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anebv8 Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 280 Rangiora,New Zealand Gender:	wanna see a growin man cry... 12/04/13 at 20:05:59 finally finished work early,rushed home to start putting cam chain on,gave the cam and bits a wipe with a rag ( don't wanna get dirty hands lol ),mmmm,looks like a small crack by a bolt hole...have a closer look,crab some pliers and give it a wiggle,what was a hairline crack is now a broken off bit,anybody after savage parts? :'( :'( :'(
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S-P Serious Thumper Offline Back in the saddle again Posts: 816 Phoenix, AZ Gender:	Re: wanna see a growin man cry... Reply #1 - 12/04/13 at 21:01:13 What a bummer! Is it a part you can replace instead of parting out the whole motor? Check Ebay, there's a lot of stuff there and some of the sellers ship internationally. If you're dead set on parting it out, what do you have and what's broken on it, you could probably sell it on eBay too.
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Online OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28637 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: wanna see a growin man cry... Reply #2 - 12/04/13 at 21:12:27 Cry?... Not really... I do believe Savage engine parts are pretty valuable in New Zealand... ... or,.. get another Savage and you have a spare parts bike... There's a few NZ members right here on the site... Maybe you can hook up and do some swappin'... n' make some new friends... ...
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anebv8 Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 280 Rangiora,New Zealand Gender:	Re: wanna see a growin man cry... Reply #3 - 12/04/13 at 21:17:58 going to see a place tomorrow that maybe able to weld it back on,they specialize in race cams and stuff,and do hard welding,so maybe able to resurrect it,not to hopeful at this stage as it's close to a bolt hole
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Online OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28637 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: wanna see a growin man cry... Reply #4 - 12/04/13 at 21:28:30 Best luck... Let us know how it goes... ...
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anebv8 Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 280 Rangiora,New Zealand Gender:	Re: wanna see a growin man cry... Reply #5 - 12/04/13 at 21:38:36 Serowbot wrote on 12/04/13 at 21:28:30: Best luck... Let us know how it goes... ... will do,I miss my savage..the Kwaka isn't the same
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: wanna see a growin man cry... Reply #6 - 12/04/13 at 22:53:01 While you work this out, toss that cam chain in some oil, deep enough so its all soakin,
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Reply #7 - 12/04/13 at 23:12:18

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 12/04/13 at 22:53:01:

While you work this out, toss that cam chain in some oil, deep enough so its all soakin,

it's still in the sealed bag it came in,still best to oil it or will it be fine in bag? Does anyone know if an '87 cam shaft be the same as an '86? They look similar but I can't see the numbers on the cog clearly

http://www.ebay.com/itm/87-SUZUKI-LS650-LS-650-P-SAVAGE-OEM-CAM-SHAFT-CAMSHAF...

mine says 24B

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: wanna see a growin man cry... Reply #8 - 12/04/13 at 23:55:08 Soak that dude in oil. No sense in dry startin that chain,,They dont really Stretch, the pins wear. oil soaked in is a good idea.
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anebv8 Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 280 Rangiora,New Zealand Gender:	Re: wanna see a growin man cry... Reply #9 - 12/05/13 at 00:00:11 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 12/04/13 at 23:55:08: Soak that dude in oil. No sense in dry startin that chain,,They dont really Stretch, the pins wear. oil soaked in is a good idea. will soak it.maybe sitting for awhile,cheers bud
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: wanna see a growin man cry... Reply #10 - 12/05/13 at 01:22:49 Just what was it that broke? The cam gear?
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anebv8 Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 280 Rangiora,New Zealand Gender:	Re: wanna see a growin man cry... Reply #11 - 12/05/13 at 21:38:34 where the cog bolts onto the cam,the motor has been pulled apart before,the wee tabs that stop the bolt undoing had been pulled back before,I'm guessing a torque wrench wasn't used on reassembly,rather pleased I found this now and not doing 120 on the motorway
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LANCER Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Savage Beast Performance Parts Posts: 10661 Oklahoma Gender:	Re: wanna see a growin man cry... Reply #12 - 12/06/13 at 04:23:35 If you are speaking of the cam gear, I have spares. If you want one I will send it for the cost of shipping.
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anebv8 Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 280 Rangiora,New Zealand Gender:	Re: wanna see a growin man cry... Reply #13 - 12/06/13 at 13:32:17 can only stress to use a torque wrench,not a guessing game
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Reply #14 - 12/06/13 at 13:59:11

Id be suspicious of that being something other than too much torque.
How long have you had this bike?
As you say, someone has been in there.
Are we looking at parts that have been cleaned? Where is the other end?
Can you account for the small bits & pieces?
Id have a real close look at everything behind where the cam gear goes & look for any pry mark on the head. Some idiot may have been trying to change the chain w/o pulling the head cover & pried on that thing.
If it were just a torque issue Id expect stripped threads or a busted bolt.
If it was a chunk of crud between the cam sprocket & the cam, between the bolt hole & axis, that would pull the tab the bolt threads into toward the gear & could cause a crack that would do that KIND of damage. The missing piece shows the ear on the cam was moved outward.
If there was much of a crack you should have seen oil infiltration into the source of it, Did you?

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