Agreed... and someting I have been saying since the 2012 election. The system is BROKE. The system is bought. This is why it made NO difference ( to me) wheather Obama or Romney got the election both are nominated by the powers the be and thus owned ( outright) by them. The same was true of both Bush's.

pg wrote on 11/14/13 at 07:26:19:


IMO
if you don't vote you don't belong in this country

All in all, your "vote" doesn't really "count", it only shows the electoral colligates who you want in you election selection.

The electoral colligate votes are the ones that "count".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_College_(United_States)

And in florida if you select "independent" as your political choice and there is not an independent running, "YOU CANNOT VOTE" and that my friends is UNCONSTITUTIONAL, but will never change because the rep and dem's won't vote for the bill if it was put up.

So now tell me how I'm un-American or don't belong in this country after patriotically serving it for 23+ years and I can't vote for the person I want to see in office?
I say, If you don't serve in the defense of the country, you shouldn't be able to vote!
And if you are disabled, you could perform an office or non-combatant role in the service of your country.
Now...how bout that? Ready to do four years of service for a right to vote??

LOL...kind of a rant...but oh well, aint this where we are suppose to do that??  

I don't hear anything new here...
Politicians are owned...

The root of the problem is the concept that money equals free speech...

No incumbent politician is going to vote away his funding advantage... further more a majority...
It's up to the SCOTUS...
They must acknowledge their mistake.
Freedom of speech, was intended to give equal voice...
Making money equal to words,.. and corporations into people... puts money above ideas...

Money does not equal speech...
Corporations are not people...
501c non-profit status has become a backdoor money train for buying elections... Political "Think Tanks" and corporate activism, must be excluded from non-profit status...

That's 3 problems for the SCOTUS to correct... to fix this problem...
If you want it fixed, vote in a Democrat President... No Republican will ever appoint a Justice that will overturn these corporate gifts...
...and no 3rd party candidate can win... until these issues are corrected...
So it's up to a Democrat President to appoint more liberal judges that will not equate money to free speech...

The Right-wing manipulates it's voting base with with totems of abortion, religion, racism, and anti-gay issues to keep their corporate shills in the Court...
All they really care about is the money...

Then you'll never be part of the solution...
Your candidates can't win in this gamed system... so they will never get to nominate SC judges... Catch-22...

Democrat Presidents do nominate more liberal Justices,.. and it will take a majority of liberal justices to change these rules...
If you ever want your candidates to have a level playing playing field,.. it will take a more liberal SCOTUS...
Voting for a Demo may be against your principals, but it would ultimately further your cause...

You gotta' play the hand your dealt... or you're not in the game... ...

Serowbot wrote on 11/17/13 at 08:36:17:


I assume you're referring to citizens United. That case helped to balance corporations versus unions. Should we appoint conservative judges to reign in labor unions? There should always be friction between labor and management. Neither side should get the upper hand legally.

And as far as totems and manipulation go, you would be hard-pressed to find a more ridiculous example than the Democrats constant cry of "war on women"

Voting 3rd party benefits the dems. 3rd parties are conservatives, & that splits the bub vote.
Waste that it may be, Ill check the box next to the name of the person Iwant. Im not playing ches, Im not looking to elect the "lesser of the 2 evils",, I dont want to endorse evil, even the lesser one,