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Gyrobob wrote on 11/20/13 at 19:14:16: Quote:Wrong. We have been through this many times.
Any MSF course I have been associated with said just the opposite: loud pipes are less safe. They not only piss off the general public about all motorcyclists, they distract,.. making people on the bikes and in the cages make decisions that are less safe.
Your entitled to your own opinion. Mines is that the stock muffler on this bike is way too quiet and makes it sound like a sewing machine and that adding a nice baffle such as a dyna makes it indeed safer to ride because the cagers will know your there even before they see you or not.
I understand what you said about loud pipes distracting people and making it less safe but really now were talking about straight pipe territory, not what I had in mind. It's not an opinion. -- Being loud has nothing but negative consequences,.. the manufacturers, the safety organizations, the government studies, etc., have ALL shown the cagers are more likely to cause loud bikes harm than quiet bikes. Just plain fact. -- And,.. there is that bad PR factor. Every time we go for a ride, we can either irritate people or we can behave nicely. Loud pipes irritate people. It is a nasty thing to be a negative "ambassador."
I didn't want to restart another loud pipe war. Those who just like loud pipes will continue to use them because they just like loud pipes. I know that. The loudpiper crowd just doesn't care enough about losses in performance, hearing loss, or making the public hate all motorcyclists to do anything about it. They will always be with us. Few will listen to the facts,.. maybe because their ears are so shot they can't hear anything. Well I don't mean to start up another loud pipe war either but seriously? Being loud has NOTHING but negative consequences? What studies and scientific research do you have to back up your opinion? It sounds like a lot of biased opinions to me. Honestly ive seen a couple of those studies and they conclude that yes when you have a straight pipe and you say open the throttle next to someone in their car then yes its REALLY loud and our stress levels increase and makes for some hasty decision making which is no good. Again im still talking about the noise of an unrestricted dyna on our wonderful thumpers. Losses of power, making all of the general public hate us? I think not. Most accidents happen because people don't notice a motorcycle. Loud pipes make you more noticeable. Therefore loud pipes can save your life or help you to avoid accidents.
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