Jog, you know the deal as well as I do. The Globalist plan is Mexico, US and Canada becoming one country. That's why Obama is bustin his a$$ to legalise Mexicans. I saw where Rubio came to his senses and backed out. They shipped all our good jobs overseas and now they cry about food stamps and welfare, SS and such, what the hell do they expect? Every dam dime they spend on us they cry about but they spend money abroad, financing enemys just to keep the war machine going. That's what Ben Ghazi was all about! You've heard morons say corporations are people, well let the SOB"S pay taxes like people do. Food stamps amounts to a fraction of what they give to other countries, just like your chart above.  Obama knows his time is running out and legalising the Mexicans, totally opening the border and gun confiscation  will be his top priorities. He can still do a lot of damage in two years. Read his 23 executive orders. Everyone of them go directly against the Constitution and Bill Of Rights while Congress sets back and does nothing. They should all be vetoed. Twenty years ago Obama would have been impeached, maybe put on trial as a traitor. I can be executed with no trial! Dont argue with me until you have read the executive orders. I too have read about the grid shutdown, we'll wait and see if its true.

Hart it's a good idea but most illegals have several ID's and work for cash. We cant afford them period. If our goverment really cared about us they would close the borders, cut off foreign aid and quit feeding the war machine. We need to take care of our own first, anyone with common sense should know that but the goverment is doing the exact opposite. Everyone wants to call me a conspiratist but all I do is compare common sense to what the goverment is actually doing.

I can't see how a national sales tax is fair at all...
Poor, and lower middle class people have to spend every penny they make to make ends meet... (even some that don't have)..

It's a nice plan for the rich though... ...

JOG -
That's nonsense.

Sew -
Did you see my comment about how to handle a VAT system for the poor?  VAT works very well in almost all of the western European countries.

I haven't heard that idea proposed. As much as it pains me (I kid, I kid) I actually agree with you on that idea, Jerry.


--Steve

Define "just fine...."
And so what if the "rich do fine"?
Are taxes meant to punish success?

WM -
In this day and age, most middle class people want to see "the rich" punished any way they can be.

I think it was Midnight who, the other day, was talking about how, in his youth, about everyone was middle class.  Well, my family was definitely lower middle class- my parents never owned a home.  My dad always had a job, but not a high paying one, and my mother worked too, the exception for a 1950s family.
Yet, they always admired successful people, and told me that if I'd get an education and work, I could increase my standard of living over what they had.  They actually held the really rich in awe.
Not so today.